Moving to hive

transisto (74) · 7 years ago (edited)

I think it's also fair to assume that about 60-80% of the remaining is 17.4% that isn't from @blocktrades are automated vote chasing the very predictable curation reward.

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago (edited)

so what is the common issue? It seems it's this blocktrades instead of us being set up to go destroy each other for the overlord's amusement?
Is that it? I mean surely I find it interesting that some entities aware of violence (some towards women especially yet finance those who have paid and endorsed and are balls deep in it, ;) )..... then pay the ones off that make some money, some....... I think collectively SOME are over this shit. If anyone would like to discuss this further, I am game. Some of you know EXACTLY what I am speaking of.

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago (edited)

*some people that are AMAZING have sp through them but SOME DO NOT AND YOU GOD DAMN KNOW IT

battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago (edited)

I only say meeps

freebornangel (73) · 7 years ago

I called streemian bad when they wanted my active password, once I figured out what that was, over a year ago,...it was the first time I changed a password, and I still don't know how to get them out of my steemd front page.
It is now readily apparent how raping curation rewards is not helping the value of the platform.
We should be charging for new accounts by now rather than having to make excuses for the .01%, imo.

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john-robert (55) · 7 years ago

Do you mind explaining how you handled that? I'm new to steem and think I may have given streemian more access than warranted.

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freebornsociety (61) · 7 years ago

You can change your keys in settings in your wallet.

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drakos (70) · 7 years ago

Remove them using https://v2.steemconnect.com/apps/authorized

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rajawasim176 (56) · 7 years ago

Amazing post.I'm new on steemit I'm following you please you follow me.I hope you follow me.Have a great Success.Thanks

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ewuoso (63) · 7 years ago

i pity yhu

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rajawasim176 (56) · 7 years ago

I'm New on steemit please follow me for my little success.Thanks

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mammasitta (70) · 7 years ago (edited)

That’s not the way to success ! Why begging?! Better to write interesting content instead and work hard like most of us do!

nishchup (38) · 7 years ago

yes i agree with u dear @nishchup

rajawasim176 (56) · 7 years ago

thanks

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mammasitta (70) · 7 years ago

I mean it and hope you did learn something here

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elfleda (49) · 7 years ago

I'm sorry but I think that begging actually works better than "working hard" to write "interesting content" because the word interesting is very subjective and is that as this post suggests there is a self voting scam (for want of a better word) in place where people basically make sure that their work receives maximum exposure and profit due to nepotism would suggest that it's pretty pointless actually making a real effort.

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nellita66 (63) · 7 years ago

oye, el nepotismo siempre va a existir en cualquier campo de la vida, pero plantearnos nuestros propios retos hace interesante nuestra vida y ejercita nuestro maravilloso cerebro, y un esfuerzo real y sincero evitará que poco a poco nos hundamos en un profundo abismo.

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elfleda (49) · 7 years ago (edited)

I'm sure that it does. In fact I know this but my point is that in this particular instance there is absolutely no point in raising to the challenge because there's no possible way of overcoming it without drastic change from the perpetrators.

I say this because the layout of this website is so flawed that even if you take the monetary rewards which induce these people to act the way that they do, out of the equation and just look at the exposure that any one post has, you can see that making an effort on THIS site is pointless. When you sign onto Steemit what is the first thing that you see other than your feed? The trending posts. Not the new posts but posts that have already received a certain amount of acknowledgement and financial rewards. There's both a trending page and a hot page. Why? So that posts which already have a lot of attention can get more?

If the user actually makes the effort to open the new posts page they find that the tags aren't sorted into alphabetical order but are ordered according to what I assume are the most used tags. "life", "photography", "steemit" etc. This makes finding posts on a particular topic that the reader might be interested in reading even more difficult and the search function doesn't help much. (But since most people on here don't actually bother to read the posts anyway, does this really matter?)

The five tags limit is another big problem because it significantly reduces the amount of relevant sectors into which a particular post can be slotted to reach readers who might be interested.

Then there's the layout of each users profile where we can see that instead of being able to sort posts into relevant groups. For example keeping the blog (by which I mean more diary like) posts separate from things like news, fiction, photographs etc. Everything is just lumped together and for the people who are serialising their fiction or writing consecutive related posts this is a sort of vague annoyance.

So with all of these issues and people doing their absolute best to make an already flawed system becomes even more deeply unfair, where is the ability to conquer the challenge?

Actually the best thing for this site as it is now is for fewer people to post so that those who are already popular can reap a larger percentage of the rewards. I personally don't need to waste my time creating original content and posting here when I can just read other people's mostly plagiarised posts and comment on them instead.

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allmonitors (74) · 7 years ago

Amen.

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rossenpavlov (69) · 7 years ago

You run a bot that people pay for upvotes. You are the last person to judge who gets what.

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rawdawg (61) · 7 years ago

Hey dick smooch, zip your lip.

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nishchup (38) · 7 years ago

right dear i agree @nishchup

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

whatever happened to sweetssjw, a lot of us are missing the travel blogs and watching much success while posed by food? We are starting a petition to demand the trending page only start with "my dearest steemian friends"

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mammasitta (70) · 7 years ago

What’s trending page lol 😂

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

that thing that people like to torture themselves with by looking at it or something....
also for new users is like rolling out a welcome mat of shards of glass

mattjack (51) · 7 years ago

Addd some chili salt and lemon juice for the extra sensation!

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hitmeasap (71) · 7 years ago

She haven't made a new post in 9 days... My best guess is that she's on one helluva vacation right now, so she'll soon be back with a series of posts from her latest travels. - I'll give it a few more days until we see her $300+ posts on the trending page again. This time, even more frequently.

battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

Oh Wheeeeee, I know so many of us are eagerly anticipating this with glee.
A lot of us were very , very worried that maybe some bad chef put the wrong decorations into the soup bowl and such......so glad for the update, am sure all of us can now sigh a collective breath of relief

hitmeasap (71) · 7 years ago

She's also behind more than 23% of her own total rewards and she's become a business woman on Steemit too. Selling votes and all. - Pretty cool what you can achieve with 500K delegated power.

Yup. I'm jealous. I'd take 500K SP for a couple of months anytime.

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago (edited)

she had far more than 500k SP and nothing says lovin' like approaching tons of minnows for 10 dollar upvotes...... @berniesanders , I would like to see what he thinks of that,

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hitmeasap (71) · 7 years ago

Yeah..
She's actually at: 793,044 SP right now... But I'll settle with 500K.

I would offer 2 for 1 deals for the first customers, so I'd be earning several hundreds of dollars per week in no time.

I have it all figured out. Just waiting for the 500K.

battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago (edited)

I can't comment how I'd really like to on here, think some of the right people are finally feeling not alone about their STINC about some of this :)
see, keep enough division then we can't unite and in sheer numbers and power say,screw that and change it.... it's up to us to care, and only us

freebornangel (73) · 7 years ago

@sweetsssj used to do it in the 4 and 5 digits, but you know, more 'less favored' riffraff spreads the rewards a little farther,...
She does bring a good post, imo.
I liked the drone,...

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago (edited)

Why are you or others giving money to lots of us here on the sweetssjw account? curious
@berniesanders @hitmeasap not attacking, very curious op/ed why apparently such sudden generosity amirite? <3 kisses

freebornsociety (61) · 7 years ago

Did you, perhaps, get this comment under the wrong comment?

At best, combing the two accounts, i can give about a quarter, more a wink at the reward pool than an assault.

It isnt easy for the antisocial to earn rewards here.

hitmeasap (71) · 7 years ago

The very first feeling I got was:

"Oh, cool! This might be it. Perhaps this is the beginning for future upvotes too."

... A few seconds later I thought:

"Why would she reward me for being ironic...?"

I am glad and I appreciate the upvote and the rewards. I really do. However, it felt a bit odd. Especially that both of us, or all three in fact, received upvotes.

When I realized that, it hits me like a brick.

"One upvote could easily make me satisfied enough to stop my ironic posts.."

I am thankful but I am still jealous, just like I stated in my above comments earlier. I would love to have such delegation and vote-selling business too.

That being said, I do like her articles and she definitely deserve to be rewarded for her contributions. I'm just not comfortable with the insane rewards + the vote selling business combined.

Especially as the delegation were free of charge. At least to begin with. - That's basically to bite the hands that feeds you, and get away with it.

I might be wrong though.

drakos (70) · 7 years ago

Maybe she's taking a bath with all the money she made on steemit.

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

they lol drakos, nice art

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

Well some delegation was pulled like a shit ton, did some women get pumped and dumped? Am going to organize a protest for this and march on Washington with a pussy hat and some bongos .....singing a song I wrote called, "Give me back my Chanel Shoes" I really hope I can count on all the wonderful support of the powerful at Steemit to back this cause.

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erodedthoughts (66) · 7 years ago

I'll give my support if you wear the hat, sing the song and enter Tuesday's contest.

battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

I'll make sure to bathe in Patchouli oil and absolutely have my Chakra/Kundalini game ON

sgt-dan (61) · 7 years ago

I crochet pussy hats. Tell me where to send you one.

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

lol, can you do one with a landing strip mohawk type look?
hell yes

sgt-dan (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

Will be difficult, but not impossible. I can also crochet leggings so your legs will stay warm. It is cold this time of year in Washington DC. I would help fund your trip, but well you have seen my wallet. lol

Besides I think I still have a warrant for protesting against McCutcheon vs. FEC. Adam Kokesh and I have a great deal in common.

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

for the win....sgt-dan

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rajawasim176 (56) · 7 years ago

Amazing post.I'm new on steemit I'm following you please you follow me.I hope you follow me.Have a great Success.Thanks

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sorayakhatun1 (51) · 7 years ago

sir what's my fault, why you down vote me. If I make a mistake, please forgive me for the first time. please Sir.
re-michellegent-a-stealth-attack-on-authors-now-20171130t224845178z

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steemitqa (64) · 7 years ago

Bernie would you be down in knowing of a new series we have coming out called "parody accounts" lol it's going to be a true blast!

swolesome (60) · 7 years ago

Its going to be sweet like Ben and Jerrys.

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steemitqa (64) · 7 years ago

Very sweet!:)

battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

ohhhh this is gonna be good :)

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noly (59) · 7 years ago

Sad thing is shes not even a good lookin slut either. What a shame.

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blaineb (58) · 7 years ago

How dare you assume it's gender?

isnochys (66) · 7 years ago

Nice, you used my link..or why else would there be this arbitrary number of 34 days to look backwards?:))

shh mack-bot..stay!

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mohsin01 (60) · 7 years ago

Am also hesitate about this post, how do clear?

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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jasonshick (65) · 7 years ago

Alright Big Bern, I see where you're coming from and I also despise the current reward raping process, but the way we are going about solving it is also not working. There has to be a compromise somewhere. How about talking to the people who use these autovote functions? It seems like you are addressing the symptoms rather than the source of the problem. I hate that the current autovote programs give such a huge advantage to established steemians but what solution is there to it? We need a roundtable discussion.

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jerrytsuseer (67) · 7 years ago

Not sure where the "auto vote" comes to play here. I have a Steemvoter account,
but I do NOT upvote myself.
Being Poor, I can only afford the three upvotes (automatic) two of which go to bots that return them to me...does that qualify as an "auto self upvote"?

I've only been in Steemit since last June, I've crawled my way up, with some help a few times from
@curie (whale) but for the most part my posts garner me from $0.10-$0.50 each.
I'm just voicing my confusion here. I don't want anyone to be cheated.

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

I am no whale and don't think people like us trying to tread water with piranhas by upvoting our work is the same as the rampant bullshit going on....the SP that will be sold at massive amounts can be used as a weapon. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with anything am just saying that if you scroll down my blog long enough you will see how fun selling SP can be as you can grind someones blog into the dirt for talking about certain evil things...feel free to find that greyed out mass but it mostly was saved thanks to the whales who saw me as a "firecracker" with nice legs apparently

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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ats-david (74) · 7 years ago

I also have nice legs!

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

I'm supposed to know that according to some people, right? lmfao
see, this is a good time to turn the tides and save steemit from the real bad guys.....oh I started a Discord channel called Discord where everyone can play fight each other as Mortal Kombat characters, I just threw a Kitana fan at someone

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

On my Blog, you can't miss them
How have you not read my blog!!!! I'm like super fucking important on here

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

Mission Accomplished! Senpai noticed me, finally

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago

Use your own stake to build your account. Give yourself an upvote.

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

yeah like this, I'm now upvoting myself so hard

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eaglespirit (66) · 7 years ago

@battleaxe hilarious!

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freebornangel (73) · 7 years ago

Keep plugging away, your audience will find you,...

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

Who are you talking to and I hope you are joking, pretty sure some of us here are just fine and are actually looking out for others
you having a swell day? hope so <3

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freebornangel (73) · 7 years ago

Nice sticking your nose in where it doesn't belong.
You can thank the developer that stacked the comments this way.

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eaglespirit (66) · 7 years ago

I’m
Confused too. I just realized I could vote for myself. 🤣 is that wrong? 🙀

freebornangel (73) · 7 years ago

Depends on who you ask,...

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jerrytsuseer (67) · 7 years ago

Don't you upvote your own posts, when you post them @eaglespirit?

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eaglespirit (66) · 7 years ago

@jerrytsuseer yes I do, is that the wrong thing to do? It almost sounded as if it’s not looked upon kindly to do so?

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jerrytsuseer (67) · 7 years ago

Hi @eaglespirit, that kind of upvoting is allowed, almost expected, otherwise they wouldn't have put that option there. 😉 the only bad thing with that, is it automatically depletes your voting power, which you may not notice or realize as it's happening.
I think what is being referred to most often, is the practice some people have (and I don't quite understand how it could work) of creating multiple steemit accounts, and having those accounts upvote your ¿main? account? then others see you being upvoted a lot, and not knowing any better, like good sheeple and come along for the ride and start upvoting as well.
You can invest your own Steem and pay to have your article put in the "Trending" category too, which will bring more votes, even though your post is crap.
That is how I understand, albeit imperfectly, what all the hoopla is about.

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eaglespirit (66) · 7 years ago (edited)

Yes!! Now that makes total sense. I’ve seen some strange things going on and I could th figure it out. Thank you for explaining. I still do mornings understand how upvoting takes away money from my own post, and I see people saying I feel they upvote a lot their money goes down that way too? It’s almost like upvoting I should punished. 🤦‍♀️ I upvote a lot since I’m reading and may like what people are communicating. 😑 @jerrytsuseer

jerrytsuseer (67) · 7 years ago

Do you use Steemnow.com? Or some other site to track your money?
With Steem Now, you can watch as with each upvote (it also shows you exactly how much your 100%vote is worth) your vote power drops.

So now, even with using my bank to purchase steem (which increases my vote power) I am down to where my vote is only worth a penny.
And it will take more than 2 full days of NOT UPVOTING ANYTHING, for it to come back up to 100 %

drakos (70) · 7 years ago

It's perfectly fine to self-upvote.

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eaglespirit (66) · 7 years ago

Ty! I think I got it now. I also read upvoting comments is not so good? I’m still trying to figure out why my numbers decrease? Why or how voting power diminishes too?

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drakos (70) · 7 years ago

Upvoting/downvoting comments is fine too, it's part of the system. Every time you upvote or downvote, your voting power is reduced. It replenishes at a rate of 20% per day.
Read more in the FAQ https://steemit.com/faq.html#What_is_my_voting_power

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eaglespirit (66) · 7 years ago

Thank you!

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anthonyadavisii (70) · 7 years ago

I don't think so. Isn't it natural for folks to be naturally biased towards their own material? Would that not make this practice counterintuitive towards content quality which would invariably affect the perceived value of the platform. If an author believes that their content adds value to the block chain, is all this self-voting and vote buying really necessary?

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drakos (70) · 7 years ago

The self-voting has been an endless debate. There are pros and cons. In my view, when authors spend time researching, creating and writing content, they should have the right to upvote it, and that's what the platform allows them to do, so why not do it? Of course, if they chose not to do it, it's their prerogative. Naturally, if self-upvoting is done in an abusive an repetitive manner, other users have the option to downvote.

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anthonyadavisii (70) · 7 years ago

The self-voting has been an endless debate.

It will continue to be so until something changes. I'm afraid flagging is not enough for this problem.

Unfortunately, it is a mechanism that is indiscriminate towards any of the criteria you noted and there are not enough people flagging the problem of content that is overvalued due to excessive vote buying and self voting. It's just the nature of the beast right now.

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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jasonshick (65) · 7 years ago

Okay, so what other options are there? Because what is happening right now is not working. Steemit needs active, dedicated users for long term sustainability, but also a reward system that is fair. What is "fair" is open to interpretation but scaring off users is not going to help our platform longterm

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago (edited)

a lot of the good people have left, you have foxes guarding henhouses and that seems to be working just fine for some...... if you think big business gives a shit how sp is delegated or to who , think again. They will give it to whoever makes them more money regardless of who that individual or group of individuals are. I'm just here to make a few bucks, write about what I damn well want and watch "Blockchain Nihilism" at work...AND SINCE so many with such massive SP delegated and such upvote themselves hundreds and thousands of dollars I'm upvoting my shit just the same way and think a wave of us little MINNOWS are fed the fuck up and will do the same, :)

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jasonshick (65) · 7 years ago

RIght, there always needs to be checks and balances in a system like this, but there is no reason that there can't be a forum about this where leaders have more say than the average user. After all, we are the reason those leaders are where they are, so we've entrusted them to make important decisions. You won't be able to make a few bucks if this "blockchain Nihilism" collapses on itself and the value of steem goes to nothing

nokodemion (59) · 7 years ago (edited)

In this there is no teacher, no pupil; there is no leader; there is no guru; there is no master, no saviour.

You yourself are the teacher and the pupil; you are the master; you are the guru; you are the leader; you are everything.

And to understand that is to transform what is.

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

but some in charge said that, and some give zero fucks, lettn' ya in on a little non-secret ;)

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nokodemion (59) · 7 years ago

I am your friend for life...well said...youre awesome!!!

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eaglespirit (66) · 7 years ago

Can you help me understand what you just wrote? It sounds pretty good but I don’t get half of it. 1. Blockchain nihilism, 2. Sp, 3. People upvote themselves thousands how?, 4. Minnows?, 5. Side question, what’s a whale? 😆🙌🏽

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whatsup (75) · 7 years ago

Why don't you think it is working? Just curious.

eaglespirit (66) · 7 years ago

Yeah! Now what @jasonshick said sounds Real. Did anyone come up with a “fair” solution? I’m
Not sure I’d ever make money from steemit but if it does work, and we can all make money and be a community that’d be the Sheet! We all learn in college people get greedy, therefore, it doesn’t appear to ever work. I’d like to hope mankind could overcome greed or laziness and we could do it. Maybe there’s still a little idealist left in me after all.

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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jasonshick (65) · 7 years ago

I think there are a shitload of problems that we need to fix, and sometimes there will be casualties along the way, but if we can come out of this situation with an actual solution and not just more grudges and problems, then I'm all for it

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choogirl (64) · 7 years ago

Hey @berniesanders, here's a comment you might like to downvote.

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generation.easy (65) · 7 years ago

Good choices bernie.
2 whiners who 'rage' quit post... and dont quit.
Cant stand that crap.
Like these users actually believe they are entitled to those rewards...
Once again, i must remind everyone here on Steemit:
If you figure out how to make it "not about the money" you will enjoy steemit and, you will most likely do alot better here.
Nobody is entitled to shit around here

eaglespirit (66) · 7 years ago

@generation.easy I’m trying to understand the difference between not caring about the money and popularity on steemit? I notice the “following” is the same as any game on Facebook. Who your friends are brings you awards since they may gift you or vote for you. Are people even reading the content of a post or just voting because it a friend ring? I’m still tryin to grasp terms like whale, etc. Also, I see people posting photos: one of a “17 year old girl” if that’s really her account, a guy who posted a hospital photo of his mother dying and a girl who shows her A$$, and then they ask for upvotes? All Looks suspicious to me! Then I’ve read posts of people talking down to others yet they’re guilty of saying “follow me.” In my first week on steemit I’m finding quite a bit of hypocrisy. Just a newbie here trying to find the real people that want to contribute, write positive content, and survive the Apocalypse ... 🙋🏽‍♀️

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dejaneskimo (64) · 7 years ago

zakurac

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davedickeyyall (73) · 7 years ago

I thought self-voting was frowned upon?

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anarchyhasnogods (68) · 7 years ago

people who do not self-vote will gain less steem power than those who do.

Markets make it impossible to help others and yourself

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steemitromney (53) · 7 years ago

This is true if culture allows people to self-upvote. If the majority of Steemians would stop upvoting self-voted posts, you may earn less SP by self-upvoting.

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davedickeyyall (73) · 7 years ago

Should I wait to UV my own post or do it automatically? 100% UV?

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anarchyhasnogods (68) · 7 years ago

right away at 100%, people earn curation rewards for votes after theirs. That means you will not get your full vote if you don't

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

I think this is perhaps the straw needed to break the camels back.....what if we all just upvote everything at 100%, or whoever is on board with that, if you ain't in the circle jerk or daisy chain you will get to actually have to post and promote and work REALLY effing hard to get anything all the while (as my blog shows) dodging attacks by assholes
maybe the tide will turn , maybe not who knows.....I'm in

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freebornangel (73) · 7 years ago

I vote way tooo many votes to make them 100%,...

battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago (edited)

fabulous

freebornangel (73) · 7 years ago

I think I am starting catch a drift from you,...

battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

it should be going southwest, that drift

battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

it is a very complicated thing, like steem which is sort of like verbal Mortal Kombat but with money.
I'm going to start delegating millions to those who will run this platform strictly for their own selfishness It will be magical, only people smiling by bowls of food with floating orchids in them and guys doing 9 one liners in a row for hundreds of dollars (that got derailed, oh noes)
...gear up for the "HOT BOT" where only if you are hot and of a certain demographic and in a first world country you can succeed! Otherwise you will be sent off to Reddit and Facebook to mingle with the gross commoners, ewwwww

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

Truncate the Whining by 1/3 and Up the Greed by 10 fold and everybody wins!
Gotta go drink my posh cocktail made by the poor people and just pray that none falls onto my brand new Ferrari's passenger seat....the fruit used in the drink was harvested by a rare indigenous tribe and is gluten free,non GMO and fair trade I guess
TRUNCATE

davedickeyyall (73) · 7 years ago

That's a good point.. greed would drive the price of STEEM up..

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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transisto (74) · 7 years ago (edited)

I disagree with that, it should be based on contribution. People tend to overestimate their contribution and will thus over-self vote themselves. But the spamming behavior of most people getting an @freedom delegation should be frowned upon.

I think everyone should get more critical and use the downvote about 10% of the time. (this is the ratio of up/down votes on Reddit. (with much less direct financial incentives)

A solution that is being looked at is to have a separate downvoting power of smaller size (1/10) that is independent from upvoting.

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quinneaker (74) · 7 years ago

Very well said.

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ewuoso (63) · 7 years ago

What about those that are contributing without success

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eaglespirit (66) · 7 years ago

@ewuoso that’s my thought exactly. Even though I just started my account this week, and people say it takes time, I feel like inked I say I’m 17 or write about a death in my family for a sympathy post I’m not going far. What’s interesting to me is seeing people their first day hit over 100. I still haven’t figured that one out.

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bearbear613 (67) · 7 years ago

yah man my eight cent upvote is getting right up there on the trending :)

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abh12345 (76) · 7 years ago

Self-vote or play swaps with a buddy. Let us know when you have some more SP to delegate :D

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davedickeyyall (73) · 7 years ago

Well I do UV my posts but I like to wait until day 5 or 6 so I'm not fucking anyone on curation rewards.. that's why I've powered up what I can.. I just thought it was frowned upon by the general community

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

many of us were the same till we realized we ALL were getting fucked, no lube
fuck back.....power in numbers not on one freaking arm of this Kracken from the bowels of Hell, :P

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kaylinart (75) · 7 years ago

I agree with this 1 million percent. Back when Steemit first started, There was more benefit to Steem power. And If I wasn't allowed to at least upvote my own posts it would make me not want to hold any of my power.

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iwant (52) · 7 years ago

i will argue against this

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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abh12345 (76) · 7 years ago

A capital and a full stop could have saved him there.

-17 can't be far away?

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

u is funny,lahf

abh12345 (76) · 7 years ago

No sloth just corn here :)

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cryptopride (25) · 7 years ago

@BernieSanders digging DIRTY SECRETS ! OMG ! OMG !

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sandrina.life (58) · 7 years ago

Fuck, when someone does something bad I forget after a while. You seem to wanting to do vendetta until death.
How do you even remember?

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guyfawkes4-20 (65) · 7 years ago

Heil Bernie Fuhrer. Flag those bastards ;)

Also, I sent you on Steemit.chat some accounts that are posting goddamn quotes and are making over $10+, fucking rats.

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pathtosuccess (51) · 7 years ago

i post quotes too... haven't got to ten bucks yet.. show me the way dude

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battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

lol.....may be time to unleash the INTJ force lmfao, this is amazing......
TeamShill meet TeamGood , lmfao

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pathtosuccess (51) · 7 years ago

ooo.. let's go get them .. INTJ energize :)

battleaxe (69) · 7 years ago

there is a legion of silent people on here just waiting to pounce! @pathtosuccess I do agree with that
:)

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guyfawkes4-20 (65) · 7 years ago

Post ten times per day and use every single bot on your posts. That should work :)

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cryptofixer (55) · 7 years ago

0 to a 100 real quick

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thatswhatsup (33) · 7 years ago

That's what's up.

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tonyr (60) · 7 years ago

You don't mix your words mate, :) nice work if you can get it michelle! :)

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mohsin01 (60) · 7 years ago (edited)

Obviously need to know all thing about this, and then i will do this,, @berniesanders

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buildawhale (74) · 7 years ago

This post has received a 25.42 % upvote from @buildawhale thanks to: @berniesanders. Send at least 1 SBD to @buildawhale with a post link in the memo field for a portion of the next vote.

To support our daily curation initiative, please vote on my owner, @themarkymark, as a Steem Witness

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eaglespirit (66) · 7 years ago

Dayum! LOL
How can “it” Be taken away?

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myeasin (57) · 7 years ago

Hey @berniesanders *some people that are AMAZING have sp throught them but Some do not and you God damn I know that ☝👍

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drmor (44) · 7 years ago (edited)

Thank you for your alert

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reko (70) · 7 years ago

Hey @drmor, I advise you not to spam as that might get you flagged! ;)

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masud123 (15) · 7 years ago

baby is very hot

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steeminator3000 (74) · 7 years ago (edited)

I really like the photographs you chose in your recent articles improved blogging skills

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berniesanders (77) · 7 years ago

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fuzztone (53) · 7 years ago

It's the quality of the content that will drive mass user adoption to Steemit, it's great to see your blog becoming more and more visually attractive every single day. Keep up the good work!

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theerinhughes (34) · 7 years ago

Such as the morons who have been running the University of Tennessee football coach search this week?! 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

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rajawasim176 (56) · 7 years ago

Amazing post.I'm new on steemit I'm following you please you follow me.I hope you follow me.Have a great Success.Thanks

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elfleda (49) · 7 years ago (edited)

Wow, this post answers a lot of questions I had.

When I started using my Steemit account after a few months absence I saw some posts talking about the downvoting of @michelle.gent's posts and I wondered what was going on.
She said that her many fans had followed her over to Steemit and were spending their own money on Steem and claimed that this was how she got the upvotes and that the downvotes were vicious and unfair. Nowhere was it mentioned that self voting from a whale account was being used to ensure a hefty portion of the reward pool and to give an unfair advantage in relation to writers who aren't sexually involved with whale accounts.

Having been on Steemit for longer than five minutes now and having read the other side of the argument in this post, I'm a bit annoyed.

I personally put hours into writing and drawing original content exclusive to Steemit and I don't even get so much as a "Good post" comment, so I don't know if people have read my posts and liked them, or what they think. I do consider it a bit of a p*sstake to read that someone was cutting and pasting their previously published book to this site getting her husband to upvote it, whinging in numerous posts when it gets downvoted and also lying through omission and claiming that her fans, from when it was previously published as an ebook are the ones upvoting it.
Now thinking of this objectively, I know that the claims of votes by previous fans is a lie because:
1)If you self publish a book on Amazon for example, you agree to make them aware if it is available elsewhere, so you can't really make it available on Steemit and sell it on Amazon. Why would someone who was successfully making an income on Amazon enough to have fans who would sign up and pay for Steemit basically make their books available for a set of one off payments and then free for the rest of eternity, because the content can't be deleted?

2)When a book is published on Amazon the writer gets paid not only for actual sales but also for pageviews on Kindle Unlimited via a monthly community pool, so again if the fans were there why would you need or want to receive a very limited reward from Steemit for previously published works? You wouldn't.

Actually I think that a lot of creators leave Steemit because of this undeserved domination of the certain tags and other manipulation of the platform, because a lot of people come here thinking that this site will be different to the crap seen on other sites and then it turns out to be just the same.

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eaglespirit (66) · 7 years ago

Whoa! Thank you so much for posting this, now things are becoming clearer. I’m seven days on steemit, first time blogger so I’m very appreciative of your post. I’m here for no money and true content. Happy Steeming 🚂

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nmalove (63) · 7 years ago

@berniesanders i always enjoy your posts, you always speak my mind.. Only one with a much steem power will have the balls to talk like you do😀

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eaglespirit (66) · 7 years ago

To ask something you mentioned in your post, how does one receive all this steem power when one get sent flagged and blocked so much? On one site it mention different Bernie as top in making funds but not in if I’m sayin get this properly, in reputation?

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hitmeasap (71) · 7 years ago

Oh well...

The difference is that I make an average of $5 or so for my contributions... Which is 10x less than michelle's average.

I don't know, I do like the fact that people can support you and also reward you for your contributions a lot... But it's a bit weird when 1 person is practically giving you ~$50 or so on each post you make, when those votes makes up for more than 80% of your total income.

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smooth (70) · 7 years ago

a bit weird when 1 person is practically giving you ~$50 or so on each post you make, when those votes makes up for more than 80% of your total income.

That's not what is weird. What is weird is when the person benefiting from all that support from one person complains about one person downvoting them being unfair.

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quinneaker (74) · 7 years ago

hahhahahaaha omg exactly.

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arcange (73) · 7 years ago

Congratulations @berniesanders!
Your post was mentioned in the hit parade in the following categories:

Comments - Ranked 7 with 130 comments
Pending payout - Ranked 4 with $ 159,15

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eaglespirit (66) · 7 years ago

How can someone get payouts for having so many flags and blocks? I find this very strange about Steemit. I’m
All for free speech and Bernie appears to Be a freethinker, etc., it all looks very contradictory.

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appreciator (66) · 7 years ago

This post has received gratitude of 28.04 % from @appreciator thanks to: @berniesanders.

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distress2success (51) · 7 years ago

This is the reason why i quit STEEM and stuck waiting for months to convert SP to STEEM.

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muzakirpb (55) · 7 years ago

muzakirpb upvote, posting is perfect

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mattjack (51) · 7 years ago

So is upvoting your own post considered negative by the community( obviously yes at last by a part of it ) but why have that option in the system then? Im fairly new to steem and still trying to work out a few things here i asked the above question before but nobody answered also finding any type of user rules here or such can be complicated

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elfleda (49) · 7 years ago

I don't think that upvoting your own post is necessarily negative, especially when you're a user with not very much influence but in the case of this post and what's being discussed, it is a husband who has a powerful account upvoting his wife's posts or allowing his wife to use his account to do it herself which results in them getting a large monetary reward which doesn't necessarily reflect the quality of the posts or their unbiased reception by the wider community. At least that is what I understand by all of this, however I could be wrong.

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funnyindia (35) · 7 years ago

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