There Is No Voting Time Limit

in steem •  8 years ago  (edited)

Earlier I wrote an article about the voting time limit, endangering Steem, I have just been informed that there is no upper time limit on voting, as I originally described it.

The confusion came from me reading the following line:

Any votes made 30 minutes or later 100% will go to the curator. This only applies to the curation rewards. The author still gets at least 50% of the total rewards.

I read the word curator as creator and therefore wrongly assumed that people would be put off from voting if they weren't going to get a reward.

This is clearly not the case. Moral of the story, read important stuff more than once.

Original Article - Steem 0.8.0 Released

I have deleted the original article, sans images and headings, because it was wildly inaccurate and would have caused confusion, however I am still replying to comments, especially from anyone confused by this post! :-)


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Until next time, take care and keep voting.

Cryptogee

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The voting change kills the joy of the curation game for me. It use to be straight forward. Find early, read, vote and get on with your day.

Now the rules have made voting a convoluted process.

I often catch posts 'early' (I read this post 15 minutes after it was posted). Now I have to engage in an artificial game of deciding do I vote now or wait 15 - 20 minutes?

Often I will see good posts as they go up. It's then worse. Do I wait 10-15 minutes before voting or wait 30 minutes? It just feels like a waste of time to have to revisit posts purely for the sake of voting and getting some benefit.

I think the aim to prevent bots benefitting hasn't worked. As I suspected, the bots have been set to vote automatically around 30 minutes after the posts by certain authors go up and very few votes happen in the first 30 minutes.

It's a double whammy for the genuine curator. Miss out because to the rules or lose out to the bots.

Hope this gets revisited soon!

Me too, I don't see the point in it, I just want to be able to vote on what I like, when I like and I'd love other people to have the same choice.

Sure it's nice to have a small bonus for commenting early, but not for voting, as it places too much importance on the act of voting individually, rather than being part of a vote swarm.

CG

EDIT, Disregard this comment and read my correction.

Thank you for raising this cryptogee. I've been having concerns about it too. I love just voting whenever I'm moved too, wether that's because I think I've found gold or because I want to support the author or making friends or want to reward someone's general effort or give someone new a chance. There are so many positive reasons to vote and getting in the way of that seems like the wrong move. I don't have a suggestion for dealing with the bots though....

Read my update, I haven't fully understood the changes

Original Article - Steem 0.8.0 Released

Im new and would love a chance:) I have various content and over time I will find what fits me well in the mean time i'm just spontaneously posting! Support me, give me recommendations please..Thanks Happy Steeming!

while I fully agree with you, I still fail to see how the majority of the future userbase cares about all of this stuff. they will use it like reddit, upvote good content or move on.

curation is just an extra game in my opinion

Vote accordingly.

HI Nanzo, read my update, I haven't fully understood the changes Original Article - Steem 0.8.0 Released

No problem. I understood the main tenant of your argument i.e. the new voting rules do not really work! I think my points still stand though.

I'm assuming these rules are not retrospective in 0.8.2??

It will be interesting to see what happens when more of this site's code gets open sourced since people will be able to adjust different variables around voting power and security in order to see what works best faster.

Please read my correction on this article, I misstated the case.

The voting time and limits need to be explained more. A lot of it is misunderstood.

I fear the voting time limit, will create an environment where people are just scrambling to vote on posts that are between 10 and 45 minutes old, with everything else being largely ignored. This would kill of a lot of people's enthusiasm for Steem. Especially the ones like me who are asleep at the most active Steem times.

I'm highly skeptical that this is going to be a real problem. My guess is that most people are not interested in voting reward harvesting. There are some, but the question is: should we care?

The most important thing from the perspective of whole system is that are people going to vote enough? If most people are voting primarily because they like the content, as they do in every other social media platform, then the new rules are not going to be a problem.

i feel that it is not a good voting system. I realized that living in a different time zone from United States (where majority of steemit community lives in) puts me at disadvantage on curating. By the time i wake up, washed, bring my toddler to school, my projects, and steemit, the party is over and many votes have already been casted........ =( I feel that it should be about finding good posts that get buried beneath deep but then come to the realization that my vote only add dust to it.... so for what!? In terms of user experience as a curator.....NAH!!!!

Are you still seeing the original article? I have corrected it, I have misstated the awards...

CG

Just saw your reply. thx

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

I let you know in the slack before but I'll publicly say that I downvoted this because this post was made without knowing the whole correct story, caused confusion, and shouldn't be rewarded for that. Nothing personal.