Shall we talk about bots and good content?

in steem •  6 years ago  (edited)

733 VIEWS AND COUNTING!!! KEEP REMOVING THOSE VOTES!!


I spent money on bots, just like the rest of this trending page.

I deserve all of the votes I paid for, just like everyone else on this page.

I promoted my content for profit, votes, followers and visibility, just like everyone else on this page.

I got ripped off by @therealwolf because I used his bot exactly like it was intended, just like everyone else on this page.

Now, I got flagged by @berniesanders and his crew of assholes, like some on this page.

@appreciator and @rocky1 both ripped me off, apparently they are the judges of what is "good content" yet check out the rest of the poor quality posts and scammers they allow to use their bots.

@buildawhale also stole my funds and removed their vote as well - scammers



What makes this post any worse than anything else on this page? I want exactly what you do, I'm just not trying to mask it with terrible writing.


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Congratulations Steemit user @fzek62442nd3!

You are hereby granted the title of:

THE SHITPOST KING

This post was upvoted by @yallapapi for $0.13 courtesy of @yallapapi.

This comment has received a 4.45 % upvote from @booster thanks to: @yallapapi.

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@yallapapi FINALLY someone doing that, this is an awesome first time I see someone upvoting because of a shit post now this is a smart phycology, and you made me laugh

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This post gets almost $80? Are you serious? No wonder you got flagged. I would flag this too if I have more SP. Please do your spamming elsewhere

Flag him anyway

You're right. Even though it won't do anything to this post's payout it will atleast show my stance.

That my friend is how it works.
A voice is only small if it doesn't speak.

Shit like this shows just how FAR STEEMIT still has to go...but I can see these things before they happen...just like bitcoin in 2010...STEEMIT is one of those...but a ways to go

Agree, this is just a hurdle Steemit needs to get over to grow. It's common sense logic that this behaviour will destroy Steemit so hopefully, common sense will prevail and put an end to this nonsense. Quickly.
Other than flagging is there anything else that can be done to make people think twice about paying for a trending spot?

That is why I believe that one of the thousand causes of the price of sbd is also why this happens in our community. They should take action on the matter.....LOVE STEEM AND STEEMIT..

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

@fzek62442nd3 there are better ways to contact @therealwolf without spoiling his name in the public. I have not heared that someone did not get a refund if he/she didnt get a vote from smartsteem or any top bot . Steem chat, discord and writing him via his post and then having patience is the key...I do not like to see this type of mail here especially when it is not based on facts and negetive to someones image.

Thanks charles - I did told him that he won't get a refund for abusing the system.

abusing the system... IS THE SYSTEM.

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

Welcome and pls tell other bot owners to remove their vote on this post if the content is not improved...it should not be on trending ......what a shame for steemit users!!!!!

Most owners besides @themarkymark don't care about that abuse - sadly.

@therealwolf hello Sir, please how do I get on smartsteem whitelist?

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

@therealwolf I wrote original content and got downvoted by the noble knight of @heimindanger, but I must say they never looked at my blog or my content to see if it's a good, but they downvoting for the name of good content @therealwolf atleast read your post before downvoting so it's I guess it's a little bit more fair than what the other do when just downvoting without looking at your content

Good or bad content paying to hit the trending page is BAD for Steemit. The bad content is a consequence of good content being able to pay to land on the trending page.

Organically landing on the trending page is the only way that is good for Steemit as this is EARNING your exposure. Paying for it is bad for Steemit and only focused on short-term gains.

No such thing as organically on steemit anymorebuddy , if you ain't paying for bots to go on trending then you are self voting or circle jerking your way up there.

And I think that is the most serious mistake this platform has made since it's inception.

The moment a single bot was used to vote, it killed the reputation and trust of the voting system and skewed the natural order of content feeds.

Even with bots reigning supreme at the moment, I plan to build my own reputation and followers organically without ever using a bot to speed up the process. This long-term view means I miss out on these bot-based short-term gains. But I'm hoping the long-term approach will have the longevity of a solid reputation.

Eventually, I do hope to land on the Trending page after earning my spot the old fashioned way but I don't expect to stay there for long. I'm fully aware that that is an ambitious plan and probably doomed to fail but at least I'll still have my interity along with the knowledge that I have EARNED my reputation without gaming the system. :-)

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

@richreeve so your suggestion not use bots?

@richreeve
now I understand the other side as well and why they don't read posts before downvoting and that because:
steemit community need to be educated not to use bots
and it doesn't matter what good content you have,
if people not educated it will never be stoped and all the steemanians will be used to fact that the trending page is only for money

I now understand that

My personal opinion is that all bots hurt Steemit - but this is an opinion based on the direction I would like to see Steemit go, others may have a different opinion than mine.

I would like everyone to focus on the long-term growth of the community as this will return gains with longevity for every current user rather than short-term gains for a few at the expense of everyone else including the community. (When I say at the expense of the community I mean, bots kills the organic nature of human votes )

If this happened, everyone would make MUCH MORE money for longer. Including the bot owners.

Do I think we should get rid of all bots? Not necessarily but as a rule, I think that any post which is using a bot for promotion should either be listed in its own feed, away from organic listings or at the very least, have a badge over the thumbnail image that made people aware it is a PROMOTED POST. This is actually the law in some countries I'm sure, where advertising must be clearly stated to consumers.

I would like to explain the biggest reasons why bots are hurting Steemit but rather than write it all again, I have already written a post that explains my argument in full: (Notice how not many people saw this post because I haven't earned the reputation or followers yet, nor did I pay a bot)

https://steemit.com/steemit/@richreeve/steemit-bots-are-a-serious-problem-that-threatens-our-community

@richreeve was emotional since I worked hard on that project and maybe I was complaining at first but thru reading the comments I now more educated
if I wasn't complaining I never learned that, so in my opinion, this is a good progress
and I think more people that got burned using bot votes need to put their emotions to the side and opened up to another side instead of looking at each other as a bully.

and I don't know if people that downvoted understand that but when just downvoting without a person understanding why it's just using force, the true power is when you educate that person and next time he will not use bots, not because of he afraid to get downvotes, but because now he understands why it's a bad thing for a community.

and I think it's a win/win situation and most importantly now that I more educated about that I will continue the footsteps and tried to educate other, don't you agree it's a good thing that came out of all these comments?

I totally agree.

I also think its such a shame because that content you created was very well done and I appreciated it. Don't let it go to waste though, all that hard work can still pay off with a bit of creative thinking which shouldn't be too difficult for someone like you.

Mark my words, if you continue to produce high quality content like that, it wont be that long until each and every post gets the exposure it deserves. Keep up the excellent work.

Good words friend @chales1. People like you need in our community, above all respect among users. take care @therealwolf

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No one will steal your money here if you have a good approach. Your post is not good because it is aimed at destroying his character and many people will find it hard to believe. Calm down and talk to him in a better way...edit this post, remove his name and add a better content on it or run the risk of huge downvotes from the community

@charles1
I've refunded him now - since the last thing I am is a scammer! But he is blacklisted nevertheless.

You shouldn't have.
You made a stance that the majority of this platform, including the users of your service, would have agreed with.

Good that you refunded him for peace sake and good move with the blacklist. Hopefully , there will be peace and less drama so we concentrate on more important issue. Das ist sehr gut mein Freund.

Malcolm Reynolds knows how to handle trash :)
Awesome gif it fits in perfectly.

Lord! Some people are blessed with cash. Over $400 just to promote some content.

A fresh account at that with only 8 post and already 52 reputation. And someone would still say nothing is broken with steemit.

Stop donate your SBD to bot ... All gonna be waste :D

agreed! like Bernie said, buy bot destroy steemit, except @ginabot.. hahaha

  ·  6 years ago Reveal Comment

You really don't get it do you? By just typing in some shitty lines, and then using massive amounts for upvotebots, you take away SteemPower out of the reward pool for real valued posts. But hé, you truely don't care, so be it. But @therealwolf was right. This is the only way for Steem to grow in the future.
And calling people scammers is really not going to help you in any way...

Get real, man!

He not doing any scam... He just doing right.. you trying to promote a shit post.. Use bot service by the right way.. BTW you are not new...Because new user don't know how to use bot service.. Don't try to make us fool... A bunch of flag coming toward you. @msteemian also do the same thing and everyone know how he get treated.. So waiting for your turn ... That's gonna be so much entertainment .. Isn't it @berniesanders ?

You've highlighted the problem a lot of us have with Steemit.

I understand that you don't know what's exactly happening here since this post have been edited a few times already. I suggest you read @therealwolf's comments and see the screenshots he provided then you will understand what really happened.

You shouldn't be able to buy your way to the top.

That's true as well but I think it should be discuss in an article that focus on that issue. And, this article (if you can even call it that) is not qualified for that since it's just a spam post of a disgruntled spammer trying rape the reward pool.

The view counter is gamable, fuckstick.
Next time.. oh wait.. you are blacklisted on almost every honest bot.
Nevermind.
Lol.
Fuck you.

This is not a good post

I have a delicious 100% flag for you. Here you go, all yours. Gobble, gobble, gobble!

Let's stop fussing. He will get his comeuppance.
Do something good Fzek and give a genuine content creator some love over here.
This hurts to see man and is rather embarrassing for the platform.
Well done for you being able to have that $$ spare for promotion.
Real creators would die for that much to spend on exposure.
lest's paint a good picture here for all to follow eh.
Cheers.
https://steemit.com/music/@jeffandhisguitar/pushing-to-get-my-work-out-there

Funny how things go crazy, once somebody points out how the system is being taken advantage of... Some things people don't want to hear, see or spread.

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

You have clearly abused TOS of all upvote bots including @appreciator, so retracting our vote from this post. This post does not even falls in category of poor quality actually lower than that.

Cheers

Why the hell is this thing in trending? So many good article out there that barely gets upvotes and visibility. While an article consisting only of several sentences manage to get into trending. I did not join Steemit to read this shit. Flagged

This. post ;gets ;almost. Are you :serious.?No wonder you got flagged. I would flag this too....

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@fzek62442nd3 why you are using this much amount on this nothing post are you crazy man . you will get no refund from any one you are not looking like a new users if you know how to use all the bots so it means you are an old users i hope you get a solution to not loss your money please work hard dear thanks

Stop donating your SBD bro..

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I think the downvote button should be removed. It's so unfair because only whales benefit from these platform. It's easy for them to downvote minnows thus dominating the reward pool. I hope more people would realize most whales are just toying the minnows.

Than we can remove upvote button too.

That's completely untrue

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Did you flag this?