There's a lot of truth in some of the comments. If there's a better way to get noticed, that is to promote your post in groups and communicate with good whales on Discord. Without the use of bots or self-upvotes, it might seem fair but people will find another way to get ahead. If you have good content, 'make the most out of it', I think is a good term. Nobody is cheating unless they hack into the blockchain.
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Where are the groups here? Also, isn't Discord another (competing) social network? This is my 4th day of being active here and I can't begin to express just how frustrating it is spending hours and hours here writing blog posts, even tweeting them to tens of thousands of people only to see zero comments, almost zero views and only a few upvotes worth $0.00. At least if they actually got views with those results, I'd know I really do need to tweak the content, but no views suggest something is up here to hide the new members' material all together. They should ban the bots, if they are the cause of such treatment to what I feel is some decent quality material - at least the last few. It's also a huge learning curve just trying to learn all the many complexities and language used in the steemit site. I love the concept of steemit, but I'm not sure how much longer I will last here under these conditions. All the best
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I've been on Steemit for only a few days also. I wrote a quick post with the tags "introduceyourself", "introduction", "introducemyself", "steemit" and I got 7 comments. I haven't spent much time writing other types of posts yet but I do know that it is hard to get noticed on the web without advertising or having a following.
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Thanks for the input, @swarmy. It's good to hear someone has had some luck from the start. That's one tag I haven't done yet and will try to get to sometime in the next few days. I know what you mean about not getting noticed online without advertising. I've been at it since the mid '90's when I got my first domain. I had it lucky then, because I published a magazine in Europe, which I put online. So I carried a fairly large niche market from the start. BTW, welcome to steemit ;-) All the best
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the introduce yourself is pretty important, but I know how you feel, I'm posting and no one is seeing. I hope eventually I have have enough good content backing up my posts it'll get me more. Have to build a tribe of people here. :)
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Thanks, @vgc5000 Yeah, there doesn't really seem to be any magic pill or something, but it seems to be something that really only persistence will overcome. I still haven't done the introduceyourself tag yet, as I'm undecided as to what to share there. I tried a bot or two and to be honest that doesn't seem like it does much for visibility. I added a little steem to power up my steem power and right away my rewards from day 1 came available. As little as it was, at least it gave a feeling of some accomplishment. On my 8th day now of plugging away with lots of posts I am starting to see a few views trickle in. There is soooo much more to learn still with so many intricate details here, but I'm getting there. All the best
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I'm with you, it's only been since December that I began and I still don't know all the little details. If you learn something interesting, let me know! maybe we can help each other. I will follow you-
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Thanks! I followed you too. I was just trying to figure out how to transfer some steem over to steem dollars, just for reference, since I powered what little I had there to steem power. Listening to one guys video just figured out I can do that on the market to trade between them.
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Yes, I saw it and looked at it but haven't tried. What I bought so far was through an exchange so it went to steem then I can turn to SP. I heard it is cheaper, I should look on Youtube--
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I haven't looked that far yet either. BTW, another thing I learned from that big fish, which seems important, that many do not do (probably because we thought upvotes come out of our steempower) is while steem power enables how influential one's upvoting gives, upvotes do NOT cost a cent and on the contrary actually earn curation points. That might be a good post to do once I can verify the validity of it all. Of course that's not to say to upvote every post and comment either. But I did think that point was fairly significant in the way steemit functions. It's just not clear enough yet to me, given I don't recall seeing any curation yet and I know from my first day I upvote those I like. Maybe I haven't seen it yet because my steem power has been so low. Time will tell...
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Yes, I read that recently too! That would be a good idea. Is it commenting AND upvoting for curation? Let's keep this chat going and when this post closes, we could tell if conversation helps--
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Ay @positivesynergy totally understand that frustration. Here is a great community group called the Steem Music Alliance. We are a very supportive and interactive group. So if you have any questions or need help we are here to help. Here is the link bud https://discord.gg/tqeK5pw
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Thanks, @chiefmappster! I appreciate the kind jester. I keep seeing people speak of using Discord, which adds more confusion here, especially given it's negative name. Is it owned by steemit also? I see enough discord here in steemit, albeit not as bad as the other social media sites, and thus the name itself keeps me away from that.
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You're very welcome. It is not owned by Steemit. It is just an app that a lot of Steemians use for community building and interaction. It has some awesome features. Theses apps are what you make of them. Discord is definitely an awesome new breed of mobile apps.
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@positivesynergy Discord is voice & text chat a. All the whales and bots are there. It is also a platform where we could find like minded people sharing views. But I felt that people are spending more time chatting away but I might be wrong I am still learning.
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Thanks, @zestforlife Sounds a bit like whatsapp, which I don't like much, or messenger. Although, messenger is integrated into FB.
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"but no views suggest something is up here to hide the new members' material all together."
I'm afraid you are just overestimating the size of the audience here for articles that don't even make it to hot. That audience is basically 0.
No point in tweeting your posts to people, because Twitter followers don't have Steem and can't vote.
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Yeah, clearly that's the case. I remember seeing someone post the latest stats that there are now nearly a million total members and about 60k active daily steemit members. Certainly, given steemit is blog based, more could be done to balance the scales for more than 0 of the 60,000 daily members to see new posted articles.
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BTW, I tried the tweeting in part because it was suggested by another high rep. Steemian.
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Actually some of good content is flushed by weak quality ones. If you have no influential friends or powered up account your content will become quickly unnoticed. Take this post as an example. It represents an example of fine photo. But it will vanish quickly unnoticed, and author discouraged will return to facebook
https://steemit.com/dog/@dogimage/last-catch-of-winter#comments
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Because they have unreal expectations. If they have realistic expectations they won't be disappointed: First day-0 views. Second day 1 view, 1 upvote. That's an improvement but many will turn their heads up to it. The third day, fourth day, one day at a time you build and connect, and even on facebook, you have to do that, except you are pandering to your family and friends which is a given, more like 0 views.
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I've been at it for a few months now. I have no doubt building a reputation will take at least 6 months and that's minimum. I'm patient because I see the bigger picture. I'm not sure others will .
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I totally agree. Bots are adding to dilution in some cases.
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Seem like that, but just for curiocity, how it is different from FB. In total you have to invest money in both to achieve something
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One thing that confused me when I was new was - Discord. People kept telling me "Join the Discord" - Discord means "disagreement between people" or "lack of harmony between notes sounding together." It sounded like people were inviting me to a place to argue. I didn't know what Discord was, and certainly didn't want to join a place to argue with people. NOw I know wat it is, but honestly it;s still confusing so many people invite me to so many things and contests and channels and I don't know who's who and they all have different rules and rooms for specific topics and it's just enough to make your head spin if you;re new on TOP of learning the Steemit platform. lol
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haha that's hilarious. Discord really does mean that...for some reason that thought never entered my mind until now. Haha I know....soo many different things. I feel like I spend all day on a rabbit trail just learning, and then I realize I haven't actually DONE anything. Been trying to figure out for weeks how an openmic contest/thingy works.
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I used the "openmic" tag because I saw other music posts with it, then got a comment that it was a contest and if I wanted to use it I needed to follow the rules etc.. But, what if I actually recorded an actual open mic at a bar? I wouldn't be able to use that tag? lol Slow and steady, it sure beats Facecrap any day lol
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@adammillwardart hmmm...thanks for sharing...guess I better check out those rules then. Lol I guess when you mention it, that is kind of weird that people can have "ownership" of a tag basically and then you're not allowed to use it b/c someone else doesn't deem it relevant
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"Nobody is cheating unless they hack into the blockchain."
^ THIS!!!
If I wanted steemit to be like any other platform, I would not be here, enough with the bullshit!
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@delusionalmadman, lol, met you in the comment section :). Wrote you at the start of my journey a couple months ago. I'm still here :D
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I've been busy, working on a big project.
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Great
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I agree 100%. It's not cheating unless they hack into the blockchain.
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Whales :D!
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Bots are a good way to work together in communities that promote the content you enjoy and to support your friends' content.
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Even then it's the blockchain's fault for being hackable.
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Not hackable. No one's money is stolen. It just has a pretty good api.
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Hihiroyamagishi
,Nice to read about you,
em Salman Lodhi From Pakistan am also new on streemit and Welcome you to streemit,
i Have Followed you,so can also follow me,
best of Luck!
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I totally agree with this post, great post
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