RE: More Great Things to Come

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More Great Things to Come

in steem •  5 years ago 

Just go to fucking Hive and stop being such a little bitch. Oh, wait, not "Hive" right? Because you guys got that C&D letter so ya'll have to find a new name to call your shitcoin.

I was never on Steem's side, still not really, but the behavior of I have seen from the Hive community is fucking disgusting. I'll gladly have nothing to do with your community now. I would have participated, but who wants to be with a bunch of whining babies?

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  1. We are already there
  2. There are some problems with the Cease and Desist:
    1. There is no legal entity except maybe the exchanges that could make a decision on this.
    2. The taken action is justified and necessary with a trademark. In this case because of the common nature of the word Hive it is impossible to trademark, and we have established prior art of the expression Hive to our activities already from before Hive Blockchain Technologies Ltd. in the Steem community.
  3. The behavior looks disgusting because of how Justin has framed it. In reality it's technologically the only sensible thing that can be done. The people that understand how DPoS works are now on the Hive side, those who don't now run the Steem network (because you cannot really call it a blockchain since the takeover). We mostly see worries that the Steem network won't technically survive until we got our money out, and we have a good laugh about the incompetence of Steemit Inc.
  4. It's funny to talk about shitcoins and forget how much TRX is undeniably a shitcoin. Together with that I think you can say STEEM is probably hard on its way to be the shitcoin in this situation.
  5. I don't see any whining babies on the Hive side, and everyone checking out is very well received, independent of how you position yourself so far. On the other side I do see people here who are confused about what ACTUALLY happened, and side with what they understand as reasonable until they get hit themselves by the shitshow that is going on and covered up here.

I agree fully about your perception of the situation. What Justin writes kinda seems reasonable. Except it doesn't match with his actions and so far we welcome mostly people on Hive who get bitten by the real beast going on here. Sorry that the Hive fork had to cut out the cancer in this dirty way. It isn't the best possible way to do it, but honestly for what it is I have never seen such a smooth and widely supported Hard Fork.

If you stay here, I wish you good luck with @justinsunsteemit and how they will manage the community here. And if things don't work out the way you want or expect it, you know where you will be welcome now.

well-stated!

H is just looking creepy after reading that. Desperate springs to HIVE/MIND. Stop Whining, your favourite investors lost and lied, move on.

Ps: Using spin like beast and cancer is dramatic and completely over the top. There is just no need for those brainwash type tactics unless you are trying to breed hate.

Lol what? You are just rambling here. Please do your research so you know what you talk about. This is not a spin. I am not even sure now what I commented here myself, because many posts are disappearing on the API and on steemit.com after a day. Neoxian did a test and yeah, it's creepy.

GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN.

  ·  5 years ago Reveal Comment

When your air is taken away you start struggling and you make unnecessary victims. This was a crisis escape and emotions grow high in those situations. That doesn't justify unjust treatment of people in those situations, we understand that people don't see the full picture and many people only see a man saying seemingly reasonable things about something that "is his property", but the people who understand how Steem works technically could only focus on getting the rescue team ready, honestly in a better way than I have seen a fork happen ever before. It's a shoot first, explain later situation. How smooth that went also shows how much technical understanding we have in the community.

As I stated before, I do think Steemit could still have its place, it might see better times again, but it doesn't follow the minimum conditions any more we want from it technologically, because technically it's undeniable that a hostile takeover has taken place, and we don't want to have any place in it. When we shit on other people while that happens it's out of worry and disgust that people might fuck themselves over, not out of disrespect for those people. When I shout and I look angry, it's because something happens that heavily concerns me. It might not be the best way to communicate it, but this was not the time to discuss. You don't discuss while a shark bites your leg off.

With current facts, what actually happens is the people peacefully leaving and the boss destroying office equipment.

That did not happen at all. Key members of the Hive community proved that they are people of low character. They did not at all "peacefully leave" the Steem community but went around downvoting anyone that disagreed with them.

When would you call someone of low character? What do you think about having principles? Also, I wouldn't call this leaving the Steem community, but moving the Steem community to a place of their own. The Steem community left the building.

If the Steem community "left the building" then we would not be debating the point. Nobody left.

I don't believe the thought leaders and witnesses of Hive are principled at all. They are of low character, as they are breaking every social norm on Steem they use to enforce.

I'm autistic. The kind of social norms you talk about are absolutely disgusting to begin with and hurt me.

The only two reasons I keep looking here is to get my Steem out, that being a lot harder now because Blocktrades is being softforked out of the system by Justin, petty revenge, and to inform about the absolutely horrible shit that is happening here. Every time when I think it can't go worse, it does.

This place is hell now. Check @blocktrades, you can't see any post there at all now.

Whatever you say about the people that created Hive, they could be the worst guys in the universe (and actually a significant amount is gals), but I am VERY thankful to them for jumping ship in time, as quick as they did. They made a judgement call and they were SO RIGHT. I hope you will understand that over time.

Farewell and thanks for all the fish.

I apologize if somehow my talk of "social norms" caused you discomfort. I can't know over the internet that someone has autism, but I'll try to keep in mind how that might impact your point of view.

thanks for all the fish

Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is a great book. :)



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Haha, I've seen your bitching and downvoting on STEEM for a long time. A bit of a hypocrite aren't you?

I don't have the right to complain about the investment that's about to tank because some self-indulgent shithead decided to play god?

Don't worry about it, you're no great loss.

In my day we'd beat his ass for using hobo culture to market his bullshit.
But, now that the duke is dead and gone from popular memory, I just smdh, and ig him.

  ·  5 years ago Reveal Comment

You literally opinion downvoted my comment. Hypocrite confirmed.

It doesn't matter now. I've reached the acceptance phase now on this new era for steem. Only upvotes from here on in. Enjoy!

  ·  5 years ago Reveal Comment

I don't opinion downvote. It's simply amazing that in an exchange such as this you could actively downvote someone you converse with and still attempt to claim the moral high ground. Hipocrisis Maxumus!

Voting up or down is always based on opinion and whim. Even if you create a set of rules, you're still making those rules and punishing people based on your opinion of what should or should not happen.

I'll gladly use downvotes toward people that continue to spend time on Steem while being anti-Steem. It simply makes no sense not to do that for me. You're all going to dump, so why not use my free downvotes to reduce that dump whatever small amount I am able?

You do the very act that you purport to hate, and you fail to see how that is hypocritical. Your justification that I can't use my 115k in stake how I see fit, because I plan to sell some, while the crux of your argument has been how downvoting is bad, and people should be able to use their stake as they see fit? I still own the right to say and do what I want on this blockchain irrespective of my motivation, do I not? That is what you have been fighting for all along, is it not? Yours does not seem like a principled position, and you just want to have your cake and eat it to.

I care very much to protect your ability to speak freely, but that does not mean I will support you if you act like a dick with that freedom.

You're trying to make me sound like the person without principles, but what am I saying? I never said the fork is a terrible thing, I never said you all don't have the right to do it.

I merely have called out behavior that aims to go after people that are happy to stay here and act as witnesses. I merely spoke out against behavior that seems to me like a disgruntled employee breaking things in the office on their way out. That's unprincipled?

As for the downvotes, my issue with them is that they are antagonistic and I believe are damaging to the objective of building a thriving community. I could argue against downvotes on moral grounds, but my argument has always been that it is a stupid policy from a business perspective.

Now, when people go around insulting and attacking the asset I have on exchanges, that I want to go up, and I can reduce their impact even if only a little by pushing a button, why would I not?

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The irony is strong here...

Hi there

I've been reading through many comments related to new hive chain and I've seen your comment too. Many users are being torn, however majority seem to be moving to new hive.

Are you fully moving there or will you stay on both chains? Just curious. I'm trying to figure out what to do myself.

@creativeblue I'm fully moving to "he who should not be named" for my personal account but will be keeping the @splinterfilter account for those playing on splinterlands.

I personally don't think there's a future for steemit.com when the team are producing this type of content and we're supposed to rival reddit??? lol

It's really up to you but my best suggestion would be to stay active on both and keep liquid funds available so you can move quickly if one chain seems to be struggling.

Big Thx for your reply. I think i will stick around on both chains for time being.

I also figured that you may find this post interesting and worth your time:
https://steemit.com/hive-175254/@project.hope/project-hope-curation-trail-on-both-chains-steem-and-new-hive

It's post published by good friend of mine and I'm helping him to promote their curation trail.