Man, as much as I like good news for the platform, I have a hard time maintaining any sort of possible outlook on it, as there don't seem any indications of must need changes happening anytime soon.
60k active users a day... Yet only 5-10 of the same users get any recognition worth mentioning, and even THEY use bid bots to squash anything out.
Tell people you made some money here.
90% of people aren't making money here. If you do it's so few and far between it's not consistent enough to make it worthwhile to someone outside of the loop, or who isn't already dedicated to the platform.
Tell people you didn't get kicked off the platform for sharing an image people didn't like.
This is code for, "tell people you can use copywrited content with no repercussions?" 80% of the front page is stolen stock photos, or taken from google images with not even a lick of credit to the original creator. (just like this post).
Tell people how you can cash it out.
Yes, here friend, first make a Steemit and this is your wallet, then make a binance, then trade into bitcoin or etherium after you upload your passport 3 times, then make a coinbase, and then setup a PayPal... etc...
It's just not streamlined enough for average users.
Tell people how a few of your votes can feed a Venezuelan artist for a month.
As much as this may be true, most people don't care about that, and are in it for your first point - make money. Also, let's be realistic, Minnows aren't feeding anyone. An upvote doesn't mean anything unless it has some seriously steem behind it... you can get 200 upvotes and not even make .05 cents. After transactions fees... you can't even cash out. Not to mention votes don't bump your post to trending, only monetary gain does.
You can tell people about the Drama too. Frankly sometimes that's entertaining too.
You don't have to, the front trending page does this on it's own, and causes people to instantly ditch the platform. Trending is either a Steem circle jerk of over-hype, in-fighting, or spam with bot rewards. If you like obsessing over crypto and crypto news sprinkled with shitposting and drama... most people just go back to reddit so they can at least curate what they want to see.
Sorry to be so negative, but I have tried to get 5 of my friends on board, and 3 of them bailed because they didn't even get their accounts activated after 3 weeks, and lost interest. 1 was able to hold out, made and account and was like, meh, got turned off by trending and found the 'monetary' incentive to be nothing but a pipe dream.
Most people are not poor Venezuelans, and have other sources of income where the time and effort to grow on Steem to make it worth while, is not worth their time.
Also, not sure how I feel about Steem being marketed the same as those, 'feed a dying child' guilt trip commercials. If a person in dire need of money isn't creating content worth upvoting, I won't upvote... not because I feel the need to be a humanitarian. Not trying to be an ass, but it's true.
Sorry to be so 'negative' but, these post sorta Urk me, as I feel the hype is just protecting users from the truth, and limits the push for change. I mean 1million accounts and only 60k active users? How many of those active users are bots, and alts, and how many are actually big enough to make a difference and curate the platform? That to me says this platform needs a lot of work.
I am more apt to NOT tell people about steem with the current state of things, because they will be less likely to return to it in the future.
Anyway, I digress. Go Steem!
*self upvoted to rise above your bid-bot spam.
Well aren't we just a Debbie downer...😂👎🏼 I just think, why not post somewhere where at least you have a chance at someone, somewhere up-voting for something. Better than nothing? Eventually it will come around. You surly won't get paid from FB or Insta. J/S
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Aren't we just realists and pragmatic when faced with desperately invested insiders desperate to hype a lie... read it again... a million accounts? or 60K active users... most of which are in fact opportunists from places where they can't even spell "blog"
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Don't come in here to pee in my sugar bowl @sircork, get to work and make steemit great. For the record, I can't spell iether.
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Well in terms of making steem great, we are trying. I'm not sure anybody can make 'steemIT' great, though.
In fact here is a little tool I made for you guys that helps you make your own feeds great, because steemit won't help you do fundamental things on their interface...
Here
Remove the people you follow who aren't even here anymore (like 92% of users won't be in 12 months after they reg, according to @paulag who discovered our < 8% user retention rate) and be shocked and appalled by how many followers you think you have, versus how many you actually do.
It will also help you find out how much lambo you can buy with your stash of steem or sbd... ;)
#RealTalk #InShortSupplyRoundHere
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Very nice! Can you give what my 100% vote value would be if I was at 100% like steem.rocks used to do? Not that I will ever be at 100% but it's still helpful to know for some calculations.
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I could but I am not trying to reinvent anything.
http://steem.supply
http://steemreports.com
http://steemnow.com
http://steemworld.org
http://steemocean.com
have fun.
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None of those give my 100% vote value if I was at 100% power.
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here's just one of them
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Well said @sircork & thank you, have been searching for a dead follower tool 🙏
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90% of people won't make much money. We only have about a $1 billion market cap which is only about $1,000 per account.
I think it is better than Facebook and the other social media platforms because in general your vote does count although there is that .02 threshold. lol
Overall I think your post is great. I think we do need to let new users know that this is not some get rich quick scheme although I think some users could become very wealthy particularly the top 1%.
I'd estimate .01% of users get rich on Facebook but it might be .001% or even .0001%. I've never made a dime on Facebook and this site does seem more informative.
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I like the way you put it - I feel the same way mostly but can't articulate myself as well as you do. I too cannot get people to join this platform and certainly don't know how to make money here. I try everything that I come across. I've tried bidbots too. Now, trying other things. But I kinda like the honesty that people show here. The fact that people just be themselves and tell the truth about how they feel exactly is kinda new to me. Coz people in real life usually try not to be too "real" mostly.
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Totally agreed, steem is far from perfect, lots of things need to be fixed...
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I think you make some really good points. For example, how many users are active bots is an excellent question. Furthermore, I have got young friends, who patiently waited to get activated, but feel the site is not user-friendly. Personally I enjoy using the site and have recently celebrated getting 200 followers. However, I work hard to get quality content out. So, I think we should definitely celebrate good news for the site. Down with Facebook lol!
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Small upvote from me. Lets spread the idea of replacing money upvotes with regular likes/dislikes which will reflect quality (like has the same power for everyone). Let's also convert monetary upvotes into tipping favourite blogger. It will probably reduce self tipping as it will look embarassing. What I can see that few holds majority of power, if they will not change it those few people will run steemit on their own.
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Well said @imlikett & @aggroed I support what you do here on Steemit, I think it's genuine and a very positive contribution overall which is why you have a witness vote from me. However reading this post to me seems to mask the glaring holes the Steemit platform is faced with primarily no viable network effect strategy with no new user on-boarding improvements since I joined almost 1 year ago [in fact its worse], and 950,000 inactive accounts and no increase in net active users in the last 3 months.
Once we start seeing steady improvements in user retention, then its time to party! There is lots to celebrate, and I believe the future is bright for STEEM and Steemit. But its very early, would rather focus on utility and Steemits product market fit which I don't believe they have found yet although SMT's might change that.
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Solid points, but as steem is still in beta stage, you can cut them some slack.
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Show me any other app in "beta" for 2.5 years -- top that off with not being as functional as a copy of wordpress from 2005 and still be unable to sign up a user in 3 weeks, while letting 25,000 account scam rings labelled things like user001,002, etc sign up instantly. Don't believe me? Ask anyone at steemcleaners about it.
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I can't argue with anyone's frustration over the pace of Steemit development. Two years is indeed a long time to be in beta. But to be fair, Gmail was in beta for 5 years. And that was just a freaking webmail service.
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I think it works pretty well. I would probably lower the payout threshold to .01 but it seems to me like the price of Steem should be higher.
Gmail might work better but you can't make money on Gmail like you can on Steemit.
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See my reply to what amounts to your duplicate remark above.
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It also still worked better than any other product for email ever made, from zeroday... and committed to continuous improvement which it delivered fast and effectively.
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How much have you made off of Gmail by sending and receiving emails? lol
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Hundreds of thousands of dollars, since my career as a tech executive has depended on it for a very long time.
Software development is my business. This company has the budget, and has had the time here. They are proving themselves fairly incapable at managing both.
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I do believe you. Just that, those at the top are the ones creating the accounts. There's nothing some of us can do about it.
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If the allegation is true that a steemit inc employee or contractor is the one making the multi-thousand account rings, then yeah, short of busting them and removing them from access, you would be right.
But we can't be sure that rumor is true. And aside from that, I'd need you to define what you mean by "those at the top" to elaborate further. If you mean steemit incorporated, where most of the spam signups seem to originate, than perhaps you are right. If you mean the top witnesses, I'd argue that isn't really directly possible, for technical reasons, whether I like or trust all of them or not...
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I mean Steemit Inc. Heard some witnesses made those allegations. Since everything seems to be hearsay with no evidence, there’s nothing to go on with.
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Yeah. :( In that case, we stand in solidarity, but luckily I've got friends who can get to the bottom of it over at steemcleaners, so we wait and see...
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I disagree with you on the other thread we met in vehemently, @imlikett but you get a standing ovation for this truthful assessment 110%
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dude...chill everythings takes it time. Steem will develop further I guess? Eh? I had actually until now a quite good time on steem and enjoyed it more than on FB as an example and I even made some bucks wohey! U are so dark mooded it breaks ma heart and ma soul dude. Yes you are right that there are problems which need a solution but maybe adress the problems and try to overcome them? I mean or go back to facebook who actually are also hopping onto the crypto train or stay here...I promise you'll get an upvote from me sometimes ;)
cheers and don't be that negative minded i get a depression only by reading your thoughts.
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