RE: Steem Consensus Witness Statement: Code Updated

You are viewing a single comment's thread from:

Steem Consensus Witness Statement: Code Updated

in steem •  5 years ago 

What a joke.

One of the things we could always say about Steem is that it was censorship resistant. Even if you got a downvote, it's not censorship because what you said at least made it to the blockchain.

But now, we have witnesses actively engaging in censorship by intentionally and preemptively ignoring operations to head off what amounts to a "what if" scenario.

Got that? Witnesses are willing to abandon the principles of blockchain technology just because they're scared. Now it's up to us, the community, to demonstrate we still want to uphold the principles of the platform.

Your choice: a) preserving chain integrity or b) destroying chain integrity

If you would like to dump these witnesses, consider setting me as your witness proxy.


How to set me as your witness proxy.

Browse to https://steemitwallet.com/~witnesses and scroll to the very bottom. You can choose me as your proxy by typing inertia and clicking Set Proxy. Doing so authorizes that I may vote for witnesses on your behalf. Remember, this will reset your current witness selection.

Authors get paid when people like you upvote their post.
If you enjoyed what you read here, create your account today and start earning FREE STEEM!
Sort Order:  

I always appreciated your dev know-how, inerta, and even though we seemingly completely disagree on this subject, I still respect you.

One of the things we could always say about Steem is that it was censorship resistant.

It was never truly censorship resistant, without excluding the Steemit Inc stake. Which was only being done based on good faith and at this point, good faith is sadly not good enough anymore.

There is no way for the community to counter potentially 80m SP in witness voting and that stake wasn't created or bought organically. Now, nobody is saying that Steemit Inc would do that, but simply trusting would be foolish.

  ·  5 years ago (edited)

It was never truly censorship resistant, without excluding the Steemit Inc stake. Which was only being done based on good faith and at this point, good faith is sadly not good enough anymore.

QFT

Now, nobody is saying that Steemit Inc would do that, but simply trusting would be foolish.

Steemit did do that. They went ahead and deployed its stake to vote in all of its own witnesses and force through a hard fork in order to reverse the incompetence of its founders who had their keys stolen (while most if not all of the other responsible large stakeholders were not idiots and did not get their keys stolen). This is documented on the chain. Centralized stake = not decentralized and not censorship-resistant.

Lol, bumbling idiots.

Now my question is who did the coding these two fronted for?

And, did i see a recent account recovery on a high profile account?

  ·  5 years ago (edited)

I saw that too. No idea why.

Dan can code, no one disputes that, and he had a few from the Bitshares team that he dragged over. Doesn't make him not an idiot who lost his keys and pulled out the steemit magic wand magic ninja sword for a "do over".

Ned can not code. Maybe a spreadsheet with columns. Maybe.

Doesn't make him not an idiot,...

Lol, oopsie!

If creating bag holders wasn't the plan all along, why not use the decline voting rights op?

Smdh, crooks.

How long before trading volumes and inflation level the playing field significantly?

Are we really allowing precedence from HF4 to justify this softfork?

The context is that the historical record is perhaps interesting and relevant as a "by the way" but not all that important because:

but simply trusting would be foolish

It seems that the stakeholders and witnesses are done being foolish. But mostly you would have to ask them. I can only speak to my little 1%-ish view.

Even if you got a downvote, it's not censorship because what you said at least made it to the blockchain.

Justin has no obligation not use the ill-gotten STEEM from the Ninja Mine for devious actions. The very beginnings of this Blockhain lacked integrity. As of today we finally have the integrity you speak of. This is in fact a one of a kind situation and must be dealt with as such. Maybe Justin will think before going on another shopping Spree. He saw us as some cute puppies in the window but now realizes we're a pack of Wolves with sharp teeth and a whole hell of a lot of wit, knowledge and sense of community. Now he's on OUR Blockchain and if he wants to walk on the grass he's gonna need to scoop up our poop. Ned did us a great disservice on many levels. He put us in this position. He could have made the sale of Steemit Inc contingent upon honoring the "Social Agreement" he made with the community. We need this defensive proactive measure in order to force some clarity and some FUCKING GODAMN COMMUNICATION from Steemit Inc. Their lack of communication simply forces our hand because we have to assume the worse. They basically set themselves up for this. Justin has also proven himself untrustworthy on numerous occasions so I am quite satisfied with this Softfork.

Witnesses are willing to abandon the principles of blockchain technology

How did they abandon it? The beginning of this chain lacked integrity. The stake gained is tainted stake that came with strings attached.
We all knew that. Justin might have not but he should take that to Ned.

How did they abandon it?

They (we) didn’t. It’s literally our most important job - to secure the blockchain against any potential threats/attacks. It doesn’t matter if Justin Sun is the most swell guy in the world, if there’s a chance that this stake can be used to take control of the entire chain (and that is in fact a possibility), we should do our best to mitigate that risk.

Other than signing blocks, it’s pretty much our only obligation.

The fact that this was not done before today is unfortunate. And this is only a temporary solution to what is a very specific issue. However, the potential threat has been mitigated for now and we look forward to any discussions that the community can now have with the new Steemit ownership.

  ·  5 years ago (edited)

I appreciate your position and initially I felt this way. However there are enough signals and inconsistencies from the TRON side of the equation that show there is an unignorable potential threat to the continued existence of the Steem blockchain. The participating witnesses came to decide that it would be better to proactively address this with a temporary and reversible soft fork rather than having to reactively address it with a hard fork which would be incredibly more difficult and divisive.

Here are some links that helped put me over the fence on this decision:
Tron Community in Uproar as Genesis Coins Used in Super Reps Vote - Feb 19th, 2020

February 17th, Justin Sun signaling the original plan was still in place, despite some talk to the contrary in the AMA on the 15th: https://twitter.com/justinsuntron/status/1229304521123192832

Justin Sun
Steemit to Shift Its Proprietary Blockchain & Token to #TRON Network.
#TRON has just partnered with @steemit
, a major blockchain-based blogging & social networking website to provide its network for #Steemit services.

February 18th Justin Sun tweets a link to a video which continues to indicate the intention to deprecate Steem: https://twitter.com/justinsuntron/status/1229696090552717312

image.png

Edit: I expanded upon the background as much as I could in this post: The Case For the Temporary Soft Fork

I don't need to set a proxy. Just removed them all.

Can't justify setting you as my proxy since I am a witness, but I am fully against this tyrannical bs.

Proxy is never really needed, you can always look at his votes and make the same votes directly yourself.

@timcliff got one of the ones I removed :)

Also, will you remain active on chain even though you shut down your witness? I've met several people that spoke highly of you but the opportunity never really presented itself to bump into you.

I'm still here now. Obviously there are many important changes taking place now, more than ever in the history of Steem, so we will have to see how the situation develops over time.

Agreed, feels like ransom to me...

It is.

I respect this stance @interia

Set you as my proxy.

You couldn't say it better.
I wonder why they didn't freeze all ninja mined steem.

  ·  5 years ago Reveal Comment

News in the press and consequences will not be temporary.

!SHADE 5



@lukestokes you have received 5 SHADE from sgt-dan!
View and trade the tokens on Steem Engine.


This tip bot is powered by witness untersatz!