RE: Can we have downvotes and at the same time prevent 'flag wars'?

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Can we have downvotes and at the same time prevent 'flag wars'?

in steem •  5 years ago  (edited)

The problem with your last idea is that many blockchain users use crypto currencies and blockchain among others because of the possibility to stay anonymous/pseudonymous.
One of the main ideas in the crypto space is to guarantee that everybody can state his opinion without the fear to be suppressed by individuals (who for example hate homosexuals), groups of people (who for example don't tolerate different religions) or governments.
That's why many crypto users for instance dislike Voice.

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Ok but I don't see any problem in this cause as you can have multiple accounts you can do identity check only for one account and can post critical content with another account and nobody must know that both accounts belong to you.

If you don't like this idea than I think it should be ok if you don't have the possibility to flag content.

In my opinion if you want flag content you must not be able to do this anonymous.

I think that the experience shows that (a lot of) people flag anonymous content cause of their possible interest and not cause this content is against law or against somebody. They even have a problem with one post of the user (maybe correct) but flag not only this one post but flag than every post of this user, although the other nine (from f.e. ten post) are quite ok - or even they write a bot who directly flag every content a specific user post new. Should it really be ok to do something like this anonymous ?

Then, where to put your SP?
To the identifed account? Then you cannot earn money with critical articles written with your small, unidentified accounts (people tend to follow big accounts).
To the anonymous accounts? Then the flags of your identified accounts wouldn't have much effect. However, if your anonymous accounts followed the flags of your identified accounts, then it would be obviuos that all accounts belong together.

To be honest, I consider my suggestion of elected committees as way superior compared to the implementation of identity checks on STEEM. :)

"To be honest, I consider my suggestion of elected committees as way superior compared to the implementation of identity checks on STEEM. :)"

OK there will be posts that are clearly objectionable and deserve the down vote. There will also be posts that are not objectionable and then the committee can remove the downvotes. As always in real life there will also be posts where it is a matter of judgment whether they already "qualify" for a down vote or not. In such a case, what if this committee may not agree and what options will I as a user have to defend myself against a decision by this committee? Is the committee almighty as the King of England used to be or will there be a legal process?

  ·  5 years ago (edited)

... what options will I as a user have to defend myself against a decision by this committee?

Don't plagiarise, don't spam with ten minimal posts per day, don't put child pornography online ... :)
If you read my article you know that I am against to flag dog posts just because I like cats. :)

Is the committee almighty as the King of England used to be or will there be a legal process?

I suggest the committee to be elected and reconfirmed regularly by the community. It would have quite an amount of STEEM power, but of course if many users upvoted a post they still could outvote the committee.

Anyway, I don't think it to be useful to discuss too many details as long as nobody is in favour of my idea ...

"Don't plagiarise, don't spam with ten minimal posts per day, don't put child pornography online ... :)"

Not completely agree.

To post something in the own blog is for me not spaming cause everybody is free to read my blog or let it be. Spaming is for me to put spam-contest in blog of other users.

Second I think that not only child pornography should not be put at steemit - I think that also "normal" pornography should have no place at this plattform.

To post something in the own blog is for me not spaming cause ...

You love to complicate things, right? Now you start a discussion about what spam is, even if I actually didn't define it. :)

I think that also "normal" pornography should have no place at this plattform.

Why not? If it disturbs you, in your profile you can activate the setting not to show NSFW content (but I notice pornographic content very rarely here, so it's not in the focus of the discussion anyway).

" You love to complicate things, right? Now you start a discussion about what spam is, even if I actually didn't define it. :)"

So the comitee should decide about something what isn't defined ?

So the comitee should decide about something what isn't defined ?

Anyway, I don't think it to be useful to discuss too many details as long as nobody is in favour of my idea ...

In case enough people would like the idea of implementing committees there still would be plenty of time to discusss many minor things.