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slider2990 (63) · 5 years ago (edited)

Interesting idea. I use brave ever day on all my devices. Best browsers I have ever used and the built in ad-blocker is so much easier to use than the chrome add-ons.

I would probably do the same thing with brave earnings if not for having to utilize uphold. There are already too many companies with my personal information and they have been proven to have lax security with this key part of our lives.

For now I will hold/ reward websites that deserve it.

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jrcornel (84) · 5 years ago

Yep, that is the trade-off. I feel just about all of these things are going to go this way eventually and uphold is probably better than most out there in terms of security, but as we have seen, just about everyone is vulnerable. Tipping steemit.com still helps though.

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ash (73) · 5 years ago

Fully agree! See my other comment in this post

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arabisouri (70) · 5 years ago

I was excited about Brave when first introduced, had it on my laptop and mobile and was mostly using it until they introduced their wallet, after signing up to their wallet which was, not sure if still is, on Uphold, they asked for the normal verification process then they asked for a selfie carrying the ID.

I asked them if it's possible to pass this part as I don't really trust online wallets to save that much of info, my local bank never asked for a selfie carrying the ID, only copy of the ID, and they insisted it's a must. Then I simply asked what are the guarantees their system won't be hacked, like every other system holding personal info of that much, and in case it does get hacked whether by outside hackers or inside leakers, how will they compensate me?

They blocked my account.

So, if you have no issues getting your ID and your selfie carrying it leaked by an insider or hacked by an Israeli company and sold to the Saudis who then would blackmail you, you can go ahead, I'm personally not comfortable with this new stupid security verification method.

Well, as I'm thinking about it now, maybe I'll consider sharing with them that much info if they will share with me their trade license copy, partners' list, copy of the ID of each partner and director with a selfie of him/ get carrying it... 🤔

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tonygreene113 (59) · 5 years ago

I don't see any of the latter happening for you.

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arabisouri (70) · 5 years ago

I don't expect it either.

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ash (73) · 5 years ago

Yep 3rd Party KYC makes BAT and the whole privacy idea completely worthless. It's a good idea horribly executed. Brave without the shitcoin is a solid chrome fork, in my opinion,however.

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jrcornel (84) · 5 years ago

There is not going to be any coin (with much value) that will legally be allowed to pay you AND let you withdraw without verification/KYC. It's just the way the world works and it won't be changing any time soon.

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arabisouri (70) · 5 years ago

Outside the USA and in countries not under the FBI jurisdiction (control) that selfie thing is not required. Independent countries don't ask their citizens to sell their privacy for free to online sites, now you see them tomorrow they'll claim death in India or elsewhere and their heirs lose the password and information leaked, as usual. Can you name a single large site that collected too much info and wasn't hacked or leaked?

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jrcornel (84) · 5 years ago

Whether we agree with it or not is one thing, but that doesn't change the laws. If you want to participate in the crypto space (in the US), this is the direction things are going. Is it crappy that our data and privacy can be out there like that, sure, but there aren't a lot of other options.

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ash (73) · 5 years ago

Legally is what we make about it. A DAC can do whatever for example.

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https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-258

jrcornel (84) · 5 years ago (edited)

Until it is shut down and the creator charged with operating an illegal money transmitter business/exchange. We've already seen something like that happen:

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niallon11 (68) · 5 years ago

I had it all the way back in beta but unfortunately the ads don't apply over here. Otherwise i would still be using it. Your main idea is brilliant for those people that can earn from it and hopefully it will be here at some stage too.

You said that you cashed out $100 so imagine 1000 users doing the exact same as you and pumping that into STEEM. It would definitely make a difference to the market price. I use publishox once a day to add some BAT to my account and plan to buy STEEM with it as well when it builds up a bit.

All of these little things add up into big ones over time. If you get enough people doing it then it makes a difference.

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jrcornel (84) · 5 years ago

Yep, those are my thoughts as well. Get thousands of us all doing that and we could help give steem some demand.

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noloafing (53) · 5 years ago

But why not use BAT to directly support the STEEM platforms that you are already using within that brave browser?

Something I do is tip @steempeak every month and include them in the Brave Rewards auto-contribute. That way they get a portion of the 20BAT that I push out into the world.

Even with ads I only bring in about 15BAT a month so I am actively pushing 5BAT a month into the decentralized ecosystems that we all want to see grow, not robbing from peter (Brave ecosystem) to pay paul (STEEM ecosystem)

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jrcornel (84) · 5 years ago (edited)

That is an option, and one I mentioned in my post. The difference is that it doesn't benefit you directly, just indirectly. It's not a bad idea overall though and still better than not doing it altogether, which is what I mentioned in the post.

Regarding your last comment...

There isn't a lot of demand coming in for the steem token. That is evidenced by the fact that it has fallen 99% from its high and continues to lose ground on coinmarketcap to other comparable coins. This is one way that at least some demand can come into steem without asking users to pony up more fiat. You can look at it as robbing peter to pay paul, but I look at it as being paid for the work you do one platform and using that payment to help support another project that you also believe in. IMO, steem needs a lot more help in that regard than Brave/BAT does.

BAT is worth > $350 million
Steem is worth $50 million

Not to mention BAT is one of the stronger altcoins this year, while steem is one of the weaker.

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noloafing (53) · 5 years ago

That is an option, and one I mentioned in my post. The difference is that it doesn't benefit you directly, just indirectly. It's not a bad idea overall though and still better than not doing it altogether, which is what I mentioned in the post.

This comment leaves a bitter taste in my mouth, but I see where you are coming from.

If my BAT wallet starts to swell and a lot of the sites that I use regularly don't sign up as publishers for brave rewards, I may actually do the switch you are talking about here. Get more steem power and get some great posts the notice they deserve ;)

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jrcornel (84) · 5 years ago

Plus I am a stakeholder in steem, I am not one in Brave/BAT, so I may be a bit biased. :)

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marki99 (54) · 5 years ago

How long did it take you to actually get 100$? Really good post

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jrcornel (84) · 5 years ago

Multiple months :) You won't earn much, but it's basically free money that can potentially be compounded via steem.

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paulo380 (58) · 5 years ago

It the brave reward available on mobile? I assume most of your earnings we're made on PC, right?

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jrcornel (84) · 5 years ago

If you can click on ads on mobile, I would assume so?

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jnetsworld (58) · 5 years ago

I’ve been using brave for over a year and it wasn’t an option on my iPad until yesterday. Excited to earn BAT.

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moneyuntapped (39) · 5 years ago

Is anyone having issues playing steemmonster on Brave?

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katerinaramm (68) · 5 years ago

Unfortunately in Greece we are not allowed to see ads and be rewarded but it is a good idea to tip steemit website. If you do not know it, you can also tip twitter posts 😊
Thanks for sharing!!

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jrcornel (84) · 5 years ago

That is a bummer. But yes you can also send tips to steemit.com which also helps our cause.

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detlef-s (68) · 5 years ago

I usw brave too. It is gold idea. Please write a step by step instruction.

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c0ff33a (72) · 5 years ago

I use Brave occasionally, and had no idea you could actually cash out the BAT tokens - I’m definitely going to make the effort to use it more now!

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jrcornel (84) · 5 years ago

Yes, this is a new feature. You have to verify your uphold wallet, but once you do that you can transfer the tokens out. A good way to pick up some more steem!

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acidyo (80) · 5 years ago

Hmm, KYC I guess? I sent a bunch of BAT to it a long time ago thinking it was like a wallet and realized they were locked there now, so maybe I'll bother withdrawing those at some point but not sure if I want to give people my info they can then leak after a hack here and there. :P

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jrcornel (84) · 5 years ago

Yea, you have to verify with uphold before you can withdraw anything. Though the verification process was less invasive than some of these other places.. I mean I didn't have to give a social, blood, or semen sample at least... :)

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acidyo (80) · 5 years ago

Ah, I see you're familiar with voice.com

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zacknorman97 (66) · 5 years ago

I've used Brave on some occasions as a secondary browser, but not often enough. The performance has been somewhat lacklustre compared to Firefox (or it might be my potato computer), but I'll definitely give Brave a go every once in a while :-)

Though I've not managed to get much BAT from Brave thus far using it. How've you been able to get $100 USD in ad viewing, and how long did it take you?

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zacknorman97 (66) · 5 years ago

Multiple months :) You won't earn much, but it's basically free money that can potentially be compounded via steem.

Nevermind, you've answered this already :-)

That said, I'm still staggered that you've managed to earn that much.

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jrcornel (84) · 5 years ago

I'd have to look back at the exact start date, but it's been basically since they launched the pay per ad view feature (which was several months ago) and it's been most days of ad clicking. If I am in front of a computer, I'm clicking ads.

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zacknorman97 (66) · 5 years ago

Maybe I should start clicking ads too, since I've been avoiding doing just that :-)

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jrcornel (84) · 5 years ago

Yep. Time to earn some BAT and then get some more steem!

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noloafing (53) · 5 years ago

I'm not huge on doing this simply because I don't like crossing streams in a way. Any of the "revenue" I make when clicking ads in Brave I put right back into the ecosystem to support publishers.

I've powered up my steem accounts directly by buying on exchanges and powering up.

In my opinion, this is a better way to support Steem rather than leeching off another crypto ecosystem.

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jrcornel (84) · 5 years ago

Sure, but for people that don't have extra fiat available to purchase steem, this is a great way for them to do so.

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mehta (80) · 5 years ago

@jrcornel
I have done the same things after reading your post 3days ago. and till now i only received 3 ads in total. I have done setting as you mentioned that 5 ads per hours.
Can you give me idea that how can i view more ad for better reward?

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jrcornel (84) · 5 years ago

That is odd. If you have selected the option to receive 5 ads per hour and are not seeing that, I am not really sure what to do. Is there a way to contact their support?

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