SteemiTron Live Video Recap - Live Notes, My Thoughts, and TONS of Articles

kennyskitchen (72) in steem • 5 years ago (edited)

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indigoocean (67) · 5 years ago (edited)

"reminding everyone how many times he's left everyone high & dry is maybe not a great idea."

I think that sums up a lot about Ned. He's very slick. He knows when he's supposed to smile and not show his true feelings, but he doesn't know how to relate to people in a way that makes them feel like they're a part of something with him. If he was as good at marketing as Sun I might overlook it and simply value him for what he brings, but then slicky doesn't even successfully promote the amazing tech and active community that is STEEM.

I think the project can't possibly be worse off under Sun's leadership. I still have my concerns on his now having to deal with active witnesses who actually get to decide the future of the platform. Is he hands off until he doesn't get his way, then the promise not to use stake to vote on witnesses goes out the window?

Also very telling the association with dLive, and not in a good way.

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kennyskitchen (72) · 5 years ago

Heh. Ya, Ned is a slimy one for sure, very classic politician. Haven't ever heard/seen him being honest in my (almost) 4 years here.

As for Sun, I know very little about him, and he seems to be more genuinely excited about the project, and blockchain in general. That said, his/Tron's ties to the Chinese government and projects like dlive are quite worrisome.

Overall, I feel like this video at least took away the worry that things will collapse right away, but I'm still beginning to power down, just to be on the safe side.

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indigoocean (67) · 5 years ago (edited)

I forgot to mention the Chinese govt thing. I hadn't even really thought about it in relation to TRX until Sun was going to have this lunch with Buffett that he invited lots of "crypto influencers" to. Then all the sudden Sun starts lying, saying he's in San Francisco with a stomach bug and can't make it to the lunch. Everyone was saying really the Chinese forced him back to China and were holding him there. He appears on livestream in front of backrop/greenscreen of Golden Gate Bridge in SF. Folks cry fowl fakery. Next thing you know, Sun issues a formal apology saying to the effect: he let his ego grow too big and shamed his country.

Now that's some scary shit. Having tech you rely on held in hands held in THOSE hands is nothing to relax on.

edit: Oh and recently Sun did have the Buffett lunch with just 3 other guests he chose. No fan fair.

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clixmoney (76) · 5 years ago

Yeah, that was cool. It kind of calmed me down especially when he kept saying that there will be no swap for the moment and that smts will keep going !

@tipu curate

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tipu (67) · 5 years ago

Upvoted 👌 (Mana: 0/20 - need recharge?)

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kennyskitchen (72) · 5 years ago

Same. I feel better than I did yesterday, but still a bit worried. We'll see how it all plays out.

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hotbit (58) · 5 years ago

I've watched only the last third of AMA (was it?). I've learned Samsung Flip phone is awesome and the future is bright. my quick notes
Seems we have very similar impressions...

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kennyskitchen (72) · 5 years ago

Ya, I definitely wouldn't call it an AMA. They only answered a couple of questions, and spent about 80% of the video just talking about themselves and TRON. Feels like a glorified infomercial.

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andrewmarkmusic (67) · 5 years ago

To my thinking, it's how they deal with the issue of Steempower holdings that will mark the ethics involved in this new alliance. People can move their Steem and Steemdollars out fairly easily on their own accord but the Steempower is a bit of a different issue. If they find a way to be ethical there then it might all work out. It's an interesting tension between the private ownership ethos and collective ethical concerns.

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kennyskitchen (72) · 5 years ago

Ya, the 13-week lockdown on SP makes it tricky when dealing with things like this, where they just spring news on the world all of a sudden, with no details, after having already made decisions that affect all of us.

I see the big deciding factor being whether they just put money, manpower, and publicity into the blockchain, or whether they start trying to siphon resources out of Steem onto their blockchain.

It all comes down to whether they truly want to join & collaborate with our community, or try to eat it up. Is TRON going to be a piece of our decentralized ecosystem, or are they going to try to centralize it?

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andrewmarkmusic (67) · 5 years ago

When B.J. sold his zaadz site to Gaiam they simply did a hard shut down with no input from the users. I was pissed...
When the corporatocracy outsourced manufacturing to the far east they abandoned and destroyed whole communities and ways of living.
So the precedents don't bode well.

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kennyskitchen (72) · 5 years ago

Very true, and exactly why I started powering down, just to be safe.

I never put a dollar into Steem (just tens of thousands of hours of my time and creativity), and I've pulled out lots of funds along the way, but I've never lost hope for this blockchain.

Even if Justin's plans go in the worst possible direction, I think the community will hard-fork away and we'll finally have a Steem without StInc... but good lord will that be a headache, and will likely kill the price.

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arthur.grafo (69) · 5 years ago

If members are helped to see the new steem as now belonging to them and not to the @slothful.whales , they might be willing to make a few sacrifices to give it a sound future. If we, the posters commit (with the witnesses standing alongside us) I think the market will take note and make investments (I would look for smaller investments so that no one corp or person can take over again).

_{Posted via Steeming.com}

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atma.love (56) · 5 years ago

I bought another 2500 SP during the broadcast (when price was just under 0.25) :-)

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andrewmarkmusic (67) · 5 years ago

I hope that ends up being the right move:)

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atma.love (56) · 5 years ago

Well, from the bigger perspective it's all just a game anyway, it's like playing monopoly. We are always supported and provides for by true self, receiving whatever we need in the present moment, even if it may not appear so.

And I just bought another 2000 :-)

Pretty soon I'll have enough to build a Steem hotel on Park Lane :-)

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kennyskitchen (72) · 5 years ago

Wowza. I started power-downs myself. I'm not going to jump ship right away, but I don't want to lose everything if they do decide they're going to bend us all over and make themselves rich off our backs (more than Ned already has)

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atma.love (56) · 5 years ago (edited)

Well I say good for Ned for helping develop this amazing Steem platform (I assume he did) and for doing his best, which is what we all do. I feel gratitude for his work, and for all beings for playing their unique parts in this wonderful game of life.

May all beings feel content and joyful.

Ps. I just bought 2000 more SP.

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atnazo (74) · 5 years ago

It's obvious that he can't swap tokens immediately after purchase, he need make some hf to make a change.

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kennyskitchen (72) · 5 years ago

Right, unless they made it some kind of clunky thing where you send STEEM somewhere, and that unlocks Steem-Tron for you elsewhere or something like that.

I have faith in the top witnesses (most of them) and their dedication to this decentralized, community-oriented blockchain. That said, I'm definitely positioning myself to make big changes if they go the wrong way. My content is for the Steem Blockchain, not for TRON.

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freebornangel (73) · 5 years ago

I'm shocked there wasn't a guitar somewhere in the shot.

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artemislives (69) · 5 years ago

Decentralization is pivotal to why I'm on steem. And flowing from decentralization is no censorship. Those two key planks shift, then so do I. Appreciating your so-much-easier-to-follow blow-by-blow. The body language was interesting, no?

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arthur.grafo (69) · 5 years ago

Everyone (plus you) keeps on saying Steemit was sold, not STEEM (blockchain). If true, then the only way they can obey the Chinese govt and censor us is by moving our posts etc to Tron blockchain, which it seems is centralised.

Can we prevent our posts from being migrated without our permission? Is'nt it a sort of plagiarism, if they do so without our specific permission?

I read a few of the above posts you linked, but was a bit puzzled by this one (I would have asked him directly, but I cannot comment on Steempeak - I do not see a Reply button)

*My opinions on the Tron news by @themarkymark

He keeps on saying that Tron bought Steem.

_{Posted via Steeming.com}

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themarkymark (78) · 5 years ago

Technically he did buy Steem, a lot of it, to be exact around 73M Steem. No one owns the blockchain and with that stake he bought Steemit as a company.

The real concern is being able to control the top witness spots and force forks that the community don't want.

If that doesn't happen, then we likely will have a lot more funding for development and marketing.

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arthur-grafo8 (60) · 5 years ago

Thanks

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