Downvote Everything In Trending That Got There Because Of Paid Upvotes And Find And Resteem Great Posts To Be Upvoted There

in steem •  5 years ago  (edited)

I haven't noticed too many of my followers use their free downvoting power to downvote posts in Trending. I suggest you do.

Trending is the most valuable place on Steem and I think it should be reserved for content that the community deems the most valuable. It's fine if there are posts that could be described as advertisements in Trending. But why downvote them if it's ok for them to be there? Well, simply because it we have already seen what a disaster Trending can become if it is possible to get paid to put posts there. All posts promoted with bid bots that are in Trending should have negative return on investment. That's how advertising works. You pay to have your message seen by people. Trending can only be worth looking at if it mostly contains the most attractive content on the platform. That means weeding out not only the shit posts, which has already been accomplished to an astonishing degree since HF 21/22, but making it hard and costly to get there by downvoting all paid content in it.

The other part of the equation is upvoting and resteeming high quality content. If you find a piece of content you like very much and that seems under-rewarded to you, give it a big upvote and resteem it. Chances are that others see it and resteem it further. Because of the earliest upvoters of popular content get the highest curation rewards relative to the value of their vote, you stand to benefit from doing so. This is the very essence of Proof-of-Brain. The financial and cultural changes that followed the last hard fork have given me hope that we can finally make this system work as it was intended to.

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Though I'm all ready to downvote spammers, I don't get to see any of them in my sight. Trending page is pretty decent nowadays.

Go check @steemflagrewards, plenty of stuff you can find there.

@celestal already mentioned @steemflagrewards.

Trending is far from ideal although the worst shit content has been purged from it. Consider this: if you were a non-Steemian and you stumbled upon Steemit for the first time and you clicked Trending, would you like what you saw? How much of that content would make you want to come back to Steem? The fact is, most of it is Steem-centric technobabble of no interest whatsoever to any outsider. There are writers of interesting essays and creators of amazing photography on Steem. Shouldn't Trending be filled with the kind of content the typical Internet user would be willing to spend minutes or hours looking at?

Note that @tipu gave this post an organic vote. @ocdb is the only bid bot that I've ever used. You can check my transfers if you don't believe me.

So it's okay if you use a bidbot but if others do it's not?

Note that I said using a bid bot to put things to Trending is grounds for downvoting and not because of using a bid bot in and of itself but because Trending is the most valuable piece of digital real estate on Steem and buying your spot there should be expensive. @ocdb is a distribution bot that has been available to whitelisted and curated authors only and that involves ongoing quality control. Under #newsteem, I've been using @ocdb very sparingly.

  ·  5 years ago (edited)

Still sounds very hypocritical to me. The mob rule in the new steem is a lot more disturbing thanks to free flags. Won't be surprised if price tanks to new ATL again. Already considering powering down and selling myself. Thanks for your hypocritical flag on my post anyway.

I remember you now. You posted this post on LTC/BTC and bid botted it to Trending a few days ago and it got downvoted by a lot of users. You think that is mob rule? When you buy between 60 and 100 dollars worth of votes from bots to give you visibility in Trending, you can expect people to downvote your post. Do you really believe it should be free or even profitable to buy yourself visibility in Trending? If you think that's mob rule and the end of Steem, then go ahead, power down and leave. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

  ·  5 years ago (edited)

Yes it's mob rule and you know it very well. If you don't wait for it. Millions of steem invested in bidbots will get dumped on you maybe then you'll realize how mob rule destroys any economy. Esp. hypocritical mob rule like this one in which you not only self-vote but also buy votes yourself.

Yes it's mob rule and you know it very well.

Steem has stake-based voting. It's rule by owners and you should know it. If you don't already know the difference between rule by owners and mob rule, I can't help you.

If you don't wait for it. Millions of steem invested in bidbots will get dumped on you maybe then you'll realize how mob rule destroys any economy. Esp. hypocritical mob rule like this one in which you not only self-vote but also buy votes yourself.

Yes, I self vote every post I make, which is maybe 1-2 times a day but so does pretty much everyone else. 80-90% of my voting power is used to vote on other people's content. I only use @ocdb, a non-profit distribution bot, the very purpose of which is to distribute stake from time to time but only using small bids and a couple of times per week. I stay out of Trending under #newsteem because I'm self-aware enough to know that my work has no place in Trending and I have no need to pay for advertising anything. You bid bot an average quality post to $100 and Trending a week after the inception of #newsteem. They you cry bloody murder when it gets downvoted to $60. Have you no awareness of what has been going on here in the past few weeks?

Your prediction that the stake invested in bid bots will be dumped does not seem to be realizing. Bid bots seem to be on their way to becoming curation projects. @smartsteem is a prime example. It's been doing a lot of manual voting lately. Under the new rules, that is more profitable than ever. Delegators to @smartsteem get their profit from curation rewards gained by the account. @ocdb has been manually curating as well.

  ·  5 years ago (edited)

stake-based voting = buying votes lol. You're the one who's against the made-up rules not me. Hence the mob rule... and what's empowering this mob rule behavior is the non-stake-based free downvotes. You keep contradicting yourself which is expected behavior in any mob.

Very good points and clearly explained!
Thank you very much.