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in steem •  6 years ago  (edited)

#1 problem with steem is distribution which puts the responsibilty of the platform on the 'whales'.

Please check this out: Why our way of distributing Steem by voting sucks, why it does not scale and how we can improve this situation

My team is working an a solution: Wise - 2nd layer voting protocol for Steem, which helps curate better content. https://wise.vote/. It is already working, but we should have a official release very soon.

There needs to be more delegation to hire professional curators for the network

Steem community already have all professional curators we need. The problem is... that those curators are not properly empowered.

Wise was beta-tested among polish community and few early adopters. To give you some example of possibilities of Wise, currently I am delegating single votes (not SteemPower, but single votes!) to 30+ people, which I considered experts in certain area of expertise.

How this scale? Everyone can delegate single votes to chosen users which focus on own areas of interest. Wise protocol is non-profit and open-source.

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I find this plan very interesting. I will have to think about it more deeply. I did go to read the original post and gave it a quick read.

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Looks interesting. Do you have any plans for connecting delegators and voters? For example I have been working hard to support artists on the platform, I have voted very unselfishly for a long time because that is how I think the platform would work best, but my stake is so small, and I have no one to ask to help me with vote power in this task. Where do I go to find a whale interested in the types of votes that I make?

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  ·  6 years ago (edited)

Do you have any plans for connecting delegators and voters?

On our Wise Hub experts/curators will be able to generate links, which will allow delegators (aka. Wise Patrons) to delegate a certain amount of votes per week under specified conditions.

So for example you will be able to add to your post a "magic link" with a description:

Please delegate to me 5 of your votes per week, which Wise protocol will allow me to use only to post with tag #art

It's very tempting for us to implement list of top wise curators with categories... but personally I do not want to create such a ranking, because a lot of people would later just chose top curators... and that could spoil those curators and decrease decentralization of Wise.

Take a look on this (our brochure from SteemFest):

so the link generator isn't available yet correct? This is exciting, i'm looking forward to trying this out. Any interest in delegating me some ammount for a week in #art to try it out? Or know any one using the platform interested in supporting artists?

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

so the link generator isn't available yet correct?
No. Link generator will should be available in 2-3 weeks.

This is exciting, i'm looking forward to trying this out. Any interest in delegating me some ammount for a week in #art to try it out?

I just did that few minutes ago :) Please check this comment.

Or know any one using the platform interested in supporting artists?

Wise is young project... but currently users like you have an incentive to ask other users for single-votes-delegation. I believe you can ask all your friends which know that you are an expert in art, to delegate you just a few votes per week. They can restrict this... so you will not be able to use their vote for example if they will not have a lot of voting power.

I believe it should be easier to convince someone to delegate 1 vote per week, and to remain in control... rather than delegating SteemPower and lose a control over it.

This is exciting

I am glad that you like it :)

Cool I'll take a look

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  ·  6 years ago (edited)

Professional curators? Are you kiding me? So you will say they you have pros and they are doing a shit job.... wtf...
lets give them more money, maybe then they will make better job....reduces... waw... 5976EEFA-7952-481A-B2D4-5509FF9CEF7D.jpeg
Time for a change. Steem on✌️
@solar I made this post also today. So you see the same problem to ... and I thnik we are not the only one

I just mean that if some people set some goals to create a healthy ecosytem of users like: "we want to have 1000 artists that post at least once a week", then a hired curator with delegated steem could focus on a certain type of voting, and reblogging. This happens a bit, people have built communities around certain ideas, but ultimately the most interesting content gets drowned out by the most persistent content, or those who are self voting.

There are some good programs out there like @curie @utopian-io but not nearly enough actual community building has been supported on the platform.

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  ·  6 years ago (edited)

@solar I will add only this....

As I told in my previous post... Im working with on of the top movie makers in the world!!!

Nobody give a ..... not even @dtube

I have the

world leading expert in weather photography and storm chasing,

interestet in STEEM (oh yes, we have a accound) YES, you all have seen his work !!!...
but still nobody give a ....
@ned, maybe you will see a little value and maybe even help

I mean your posts are making more than most people's. Its not a lot but honestly payment should be secondary to views on the platform in my opinion.

None of this is simple, but where we can agree is what we have isn't working.

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  ·  6 years ago (edited)

I worked my ass of to get where Im today.... As most people here, I have a job... the rest in in photo and videografy ...stock video! What you see on my profile in 2 years of hard work!. DAY AND NIGHT.... its about money, but it not all money.,.... it more about other Soc.Pla. ..taking edvantage of creators....

AND STEEM COULD CHANGE THAT!

When I heard about STEEMIT ...I was like...
BRO WAY DIDNT YOU TELL ME SOONER!!!!
Now, I m getting an idea.
How I did get good upvote is that there is still some smart curator ....( BIG) IF he will find you... in this mess of falls tags, upvotes...and bad useless posts....
.... hm... A little marketing strategy...

P.s.: Im from EU. I did work yesterday, I work all night on videos and photos for stock and now also for steem... an in 2h Im going back to work.... so you get the idea.
BUT I LOVE WHAT I DO.... SO ITS NOT HARD FOR ME... ok job sucks .... but I do it, so I can follow my dream!

The main thing... That, WE ALL are aware of the problem!!!!
STEP BY STEP

There nothing else I could add...

Millions were wasted on sh... content and only a handful of good people stayed.

It's still not completely lost case, but I feel that Steemit is not holding the wheel, brakes, clutch and acceleration pedal.

Our destiny is in the hands of general crypto market and all we can do is the equivalent of changing the radio stations.

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

@alexs1320 And what should I add...?

I can ask you... How can you stay so calm..cuz this is the 3.time, that I'm rewriting this comment.......
But it only means, that I m willing to fight for it for what I belive.

For me the sad part is, when you comes with a solution and nobody F..... cares.

I live in France for 4 years and now I'm moving (almost) back - to Slovenia.

Why? Because here I'm surrounded by people who have no references, no numbers, no education for the given topic no "life experience", nothing...

I simply need to regain my sanity and start living again among reasonable people. My salary will be almost 50% less - but I don't care.

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

I noticed that you created a ruleset for yourself:

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Yeah, protocol allows that, but this doesn't make to much sense in this configuration.

Best use case is... when someone with much stronger votes allow you to vote on his vote.

So, I created a 2 votes per week delegation to you:

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So now you can vote on my behalf via https://wise.vote/voting-page/

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Use it wisely :)

Thanks @noisy yeah I didn't know what I was doing. Thanks so much, ill try it out this week!

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So you will say they you have pros and they are doing a shit job

The key is allow each curator to focus only on things which he or she really likes.

For example, I read tag #steemdev anyway... and I enjoy that so this is not a hard job for me to curate this content.

For example, in polish community there is a girl which only focus on cooking. Cooking is her hobby and she reads this content anyway. They key thing here is that for example I delegated to her few of my votes per week, but she can only use that on posts about cooking.

She is not doing this for free either. Because she can use my much stronger vote, she can vote first and then use my vote... and maximize own curation rewards even 10-20 times.

Important thing is.. that she do note have to use my vote. If she will not do that it won't be wasted, because it will be used by other curators on other tags. If she will abuse my vote, I can cancel it or reduce or remove whole delegation.

This a decentralized voting done in a Wise way.

I CAN T BELIVE THIS....

........The key is allow each curator to focus only on things which he or she really likes...... SO

So curators are PROS, but tehy upvote what they like ?

Its like you saying, we have educated, qualefide people in space.

And then you say we have a gardner, music teacher , dancer....

BUT

...they are making a good job!

..... stopp the madness! The mindset, that you have... it old and it's not working anymore...

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That is a good read, I had not considered how it could get challenging voting organically once your vote is worth more.

That's so cool you're doing that. We met and talked at Steefest3. I curate Steemit Open Mic, the longest running contest on Steemit and am interested in getting a single upvote delegation from you to give to someone who enters the contest. Please consider delegating and thanks for the work you're doing. Really cool stuff.

I would be verry happy to delegate my votes/voting power to people like you. The problem is... that I already delegate to 30 people. And because of current price of Steem this vote currently is not worth as much as it used to.

So you shouldn't asked me, but people which do not use own voting power... or vote for less-than-ideal content.

Also.. I belive that delegating someone voting power or single votes... so this person could vote themself... is far from being optimal. It still much better than autoupvoter (because you could decide when you would like to use stronger votes), but optimal way is to curate content you like and which you are really an expert about it.

So for example, what is your area of expertise. In which fields you could very easilly spot trully remarkable posts? And in which field you could very easilly distinguish great posts from average or bad posts?

Interesting you mention self-upvoting. Until the last couple months I only upvoted others, not myself. Recently I have though. However, if I had a delegation I would not use it on myself ever.

I had a delegation for quite some time and when it started I stopped upvoting myself entirely because I was earning enough from curation that it made more sense to save the voting power for others. Running Open Mic takes a lot of votes, so much so that my voting power was always low until @ausbitbank created an account for others to delegate to that only upvote my manually curated upvotes for the openmic tag.

It was so cool he did that without even telling me until it was done. That way I could reduce my voting slider and keep upvoting hundreds of people a week and the other account he created boosted my vote.

It's people like that doing cool things like that that make you realize you're on the right path.