I am asking a legitimate question. I heard a rumor a while back, that if you want 'free speech' then try Steem.
So I have tried Steem, and what I am seeing is quite alarming. Same anti-free speech feel. Feels like the -shadowbanning- of the main platforms.
Today I checked out a Lee Camp video and saw yet another grayed out comment in the comments. Apparently all it takes is one troll, bot, call center employee paid to act like someone else online, etc., to 'hide' someone's legitimate comment.
Example:
So someone can spam an idiotic emotional reaction, and 'turn off' someone else's comment? While some other emotional angry folks can pump up that idiotic bot troll comment, paying the sub 100 IQ content, and penalizing and hiding the comment that could start a great constructive debate?
Well, I think I have seen all I need to see, to know not to steer friends and content creators to this platform. I surely am turned off, and not motivated to put my efforts into it. This is some disgusting display of Shadowy-Slimy censorship.
OldOneEye not liking what it sees.....
/rant off
Keep in mind that it costs VP to downvote (and hide comments). If that comment was upvoted by ~$0.05 then it would be visible again. The downvoters of that comment only did so with a rather small downvote. A 100% upvote by anyone with 3000-4000 SP would overide the downvote, and make the comment have a positive payout. You can rent that much SP from DLease for around $5 a week. With that you could undo ~50 of the comments hidden by this downvoter per week. Of course they might fight back and downvote more, but IDK.
This system was mainly designed to counter spam, plagiarism, etc., not to hide legit comments, BTW. Adding in a settings option to Steemit to show hidden comments be default would probably be a good idea: I might add that feature in a bit. (by writing a PR)
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Good info thanks!
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The author behind @kawaiicrush spends every waking moment of his pathetic life thinking about @berniesanders. He claims @berniesanders has made over 11 million dollars in Steem and is INSANELY jealous he could never live such an amazing life. He's SO fucking pathetic he will make multiple posts and comments with ABSURD claims just to get the attention of his 8 pathetic followers who also have nothing better to do with their time than dream about @berniesanders and the life they will never live. How fucking pathetic can someone be, @kawaiicrush?
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This is factually incorrect, although they do get paid for being a witness. Many witnesses have cryptic affiliations with Stinc, and Bernie. I do not think @ausbitbank does, as I have seen action taken by the to further free speech, and counter the malign influence of censors here.
Please reconsider your assessment of @ausbitbank after undertaking some due diligence to ascertain the nature of their impact on the platform and it's users. They are not who you have cast them to be in your comment.
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I disagree.
Cheers!
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The author behind @kawaiicrush spends every waking moment of his pathetic life thinking about @berniesanders. He claims @berniesanders has made over 11 million dollars in Steem and is INSANELY jealous he could never live such an amazing life. He's SO fucking pathetic he will make multiple posts and comments with ABSURD claims just to get the attention of his 8 pathetic followers who also have nothing better to do with their time than dream about @berniesanders and the life they will never live. How fucking pathetic can someone be, @kawaiicrush?
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I am too far in my rage? I am not the one threatening women and children while all of you "witnesses" say and DO nothing about it.
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The author behind @kawaiicrush spends every waking moment of his pathetic life thinking about @berniesanders. He claims @berniesanders has made over 11 million dollars in Steem and is INSANELY jealous he could never live such an amazing life. He's SO fucking pathetic he will make multiple posts and comments with ABSURD claims just to get the attention of his 8 pathetic followers who also have nothing better to do with their time than dream about @berniesanders and the life they will never live. How fucking pathetic can someone be, @kawaiicrush?
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Here comes your straw man argument. You know damn well I didn't say you are Bernie. I said you -> (witnesses) are COMPLICIT with what he does, especially towards WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
Nothing but a bunch of scared puppies with your tails between your legs.
Gross.
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You fell for it. Retard.
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Fell for what, dipshit? Spew more for the cameras!
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The author behind @kawaiicrush spends every waking moment of his pathetic life thinking about @berniesanders. He claims @berniesanders has made over 11 million dollars in Steem and is INSANELY jealous he could never live such an amazing life. He's SO fucking pathetic he will make multiple posts and comments with ABSURD claims just to get the attention of his 8 pathetic followers who also have nothing better to do with their time than dream about @berniesanders and the life they will never live. How fucking pathetic can someone be, @kawaiicrush?
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That doesn't prove I'm a witness? That just shows I approved a witness. Here's a similar screenshot from you:
Although I am technically a witness, I have never produced any blocks, and became a witness more by accident while playing around with the various blockchain operations. I'm around rank ~300, and I don't have a node to produce blocks.
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Lmao see how they told you VP "costs" money and is designed to counter spam. What a load of bullshit. The "troll" you speak of in your above post who harasses and bullies everyone and their uncle on Steemit never paid one red cent for any of his Steem. He just "premined or ninja mined all of it". Shit loads of it.. and now uses that VP (voting power) to beat everyone over the head.. and then little ball washers like the person who "oh so kindly explained things to you" <-- who is probably a sock puppet of the bully might I add.. fail to tell you that the VP the bully/troll is using on everyone was FREE! He just printed it from thin air, and shit loads of it. He also has thousands upon thousands of accounts. He runs this entire platform. And sure you and me would have to pay a "cost" to buy VP (voting power).. but this head troll (who is actually Steemit Inc.) never paid one fucking cent.
Be careful who "kindly" "helps" you in your comments.. you have no idea how many sock puppets these people have, and every time someone tells the truth just like you did in your above post.. these "friendly helpers/witnesses/and anyone with their hand in the cookie jar" <-- twist the truth and crawl out of the wood work like little cockroaches and defend the insanity...
This place is all smoke and mirrors.. and they are a bunch of leftist control freaks.
Beware.
Oh here is the proof he was one of the first accounts ever... and that he "mined" all of his Steem which he uses on people like a weapon. Many people have been bought off by him, and or are just him under alias accounts, or his friends.. here is the screen shot from the blockchain..
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The author behind @kawaiicrush spends every waking moment of his pathetic life thinking about @berniesanders. He claims @berniesanders has made over 11 million dollars in Steem and is INSANELY jealous he could never live such an amazing life. He's SO fucking pathetic he will make multiple posts and comments with ABSURD claims just to get the attention of his 8 pathetic followers who also have nothing better to do with their time than dream about @berniesanders and the life they will never live. How fucking pathetic can someone be, @kawaiicrush?
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It doesn't cost money to downvote, it costs VP. I didn't say that VP costs money. And until HF21, it will cost VP that could otherwise be used to upvote yourself.
What are downvotes intended to prevent if not spam and plagiarism?
No, I'm a seperate human than @berniesanders. I don't always agree with them and IMO the downvotes mentioned in the root posts weren't completely justified. I have a personal website (shameless promo), and a lot of good posts (I think so at least), if I am a sock puppet then @berniesanders must be really dedicated.
Well he did need to pay for mining machines, and compete with Steemit and other miners. And whether the VP was paid for is irrelevant: there is still the cost of not self-voting.
That's good advice.
That just means he mined his account, as opposed to paying the account creation fee. Having a mined account doesn't mean you did any mining after the account creation, although @berniesanders did.
(expect a response to the other comment soon)
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"VP" comes from purchasing Steem asshole. You know it and I know it. Either that or from getting delegations.
Kindly fuck off with your bullshit. I have had enough of you scum.
Here is proof for you @oldoneeye
This is from the Steem FAQ.
It says and I quote "Though not considered an investment, you can purchase STEEM tokens which can go up or down in value. You can power up these tokens into Steem Power, which grants more influence in the Steem platform."
So I want to stress the part that says "You can PURCHASE Steem tokens" <--- the operative word is "purchase" Steem tokens.. next I want to point out "You can power up these tokens into Steem Power, which grants more influence in the Steem platform." and I want to stress the part within which states "You can POWER UP these tokens" <--- This is where you get VP or "voting power" from.
So us as in average joes have to purchase VP, but whales who "mined" steem like Bernie Sanders just printed their Steem from thin air and never had to spend one red cent.. which created an uneven playing field, by which created pretty much two social classes on Steem out of the gate. The haves and the have nots. And the HAVES didn't even BUY what they have. And then to boot they (bernie and his sock puppets) abuse that VP by harassing everyone on Steem. Then his supporters who live in fear of his downvotes pretend all is well, and defend the shit, and give out disinformation to people because like I said before "their hand is in the cookie jar".
https://steem.com/faq/
I hope this helps explain my view point @oldoneeye
ps I like your name.. really cool name choice man!
#theirhandisinthecookiejar
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The author behind @kawaiicrush spends every waking moment of his pathetic life thinking about @berniesanders. He claims @berniesanders has made over 11 million dollars in Steem and is INSANELY jealous he could never live such an amazing life. He's SO fucking pathetic he will make multiple posts and comments with ABSURD claims just to get the attention of his 8 pathetic followers who also have nothing better to do with their time than dream about @berniesanders and the life they will never live. How fucking pathetic can someone be, @kawaiicrush?
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6 social media platforms and 72 Discord channels will all know about STEEM, well, those who don't already know, will.
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Free speech.
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As far as I can tell, all the flags you list above are @berniesanders and his bots. He has many more.
I believe your intended action is exactly what he desires from you. It seems to be his purpose to destroy Steem. Since he is closely allied to Stinc, that seems to be their purpose as well, despite their rhetoric.
Action is probative, words are rhetorical.
Again, thanks!
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I actually believe that is the intention as well.
Steem need to remove the auto-hide. Being censored by other users who are triggered by truth, will equal the destruction of any platform.
As you said in your other comment though, they are all going to suffer from this somewhat. I like the idea of the 08 you mentioned (nodes). But 'Ripple', is very centralized isn't it?
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Ripple is indeed not a decentralized currency. However blockchan simply inserts posts into that blockchain, essentially making a censorship resistant social platform out of the very financial ledger of banksters.
Not sure it's an effective long term solution, but it feels like poetry LOL
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Indeed. We are also in blockchain infancy. The banksters had to go 'if you cant beat em join em' route. Now we get to be plagued with an arsenal of new folks peeking at 'blockchain' as soon as libre hits. Everyone will most likely lump up and equate 'blockchain' to 'FB/Libre'. And.. everyone will most likely believe FB when they say 'we are decentralized'.
Regardless, interesting times afoot!
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YUP!
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Perhaps you are not famiiar with steemd, a sort of blockexplorer you can use to learn about particular accounts. Upon investigating @abusereports with steemd, you will discover that the account is one of many 'sock puppets' owned by the same person that runs the @berniesanders account, whose witness account is @nextgencrypto. Many of the consensus witnesses vote for that witness, and both the last two accounts were amongst the original 'ninjaminers' who mined all the steem there is into existence prior to any app or platform, even Steemit.
He has hella stake, invented to bidbot with @randowhale (now defunct) and is notorious for exactly the kind of flagging you notice happening to @joe.public, whose truthful and indomitable nature makes him incapable of pandering, even to high staked users with huge influence on Steemit, Inc.
Not long ago, a flag war began between the @berniesanders group of accounts and @fulltimegeek, who bought his stake with fiat, and also had many bots. Still does, actually. However, the end result of that disagreement was the initiation of censorship by Stinc, who has blacklisted all of @fulltimegeek's accounts, and even votes cast by his accounts are mystery votes, as the voter is not revealed in the UI. Since many frontends like Steempeak use Steemit APIs, on those apps @fulltimegeek is also completely censored.
As always, the first censorship is just the beginning of the slide down to complete narrative control, and as the flagging/censorship has burgeoned on Steem, users have been leaving in droves, and folks hearing of it from others who've seen it, like your friends will, have not been coming.
We hear rhetoric from Stinc about mass onboarding, but the HF21 that is coming soon will halve author rewards, double curation rewards - which favors substantial stake (the ninjaminers, who still hold almost all Steem in existence) financially, semi-exponential rewards curve - again, favoring large stakeholders, and lastly the newly proposed downvote pool, which will provide 25% more flags to each account based on their extant VP, which derives from their stake.
You don't have to wonder much about what will happen to anyone that irritates substantial stakeholders, like @berniesanders. The market is prepricing in the coming hardfork, as markets do, and the price of Steem is plunging, market cap declining, and users are hemorrhaging. After the real catastrophe rears it's ugly head upon implementation of HF21, the real decline will begin, as the market reacts to the full consequences to the market for Steem of reducing the number of participants by an order of magnitude.
I have made every effort to reveal these facts as the features were discussed, and only recently did the incessant flags on my every post and comment stop, as I would neither stop saying what I believe, nor care about the trivial financial impact on my account - as I do not use Steem as money, but came here, as you mentioned, to take part in a censorship resistant, decentralized social platform.
It's being killed, and Bernie seems to be the heart of the strike team taking it down, for whatever reason. It doesn't really matter to me why, only that it's happening, and I'm hunting around the edges for a replacement. I may have found something in Blockchan, which secretes posts in the Ripple network, but that's only a couple days old, and very, very alpha at present (not even really in beta yet). We'll see how that goes. Zeronet has also recently been used to recreate of version of 8chan, which has been taken down by Cloudflare, an internet wide security provider the secures websites from ddos attacks, and without that protection websites aren't viable, since they are overwhelmed with incessant DDOSing. 08chan isn't really 8chan, according to the admins of the closed site, but many of the users have gone there, and the zeronet protocol stores all images in IPFS, and users themselves host the nodes, which makes it immune to DDOS, and not vulnerable to legacy internet censorship. It does not have a cryptocurrency feature, which reduces rapacious flaggotry, a good thing IMHO.
There seem to be no cryptocurrencies presently potential to resist the weighting of stake to seize the majority of the value of the tokens, and while many pay lip service to decentralization, as long as the stake is substantially centralized, the users subject to KYC, and government regulation and control, they are little more than new features of the legacy fiat financial structure, in which I am not interested.
Hope that information is useful to you in your search for free speech. it's an ever more scarce and rare delight in this world, and that makes it of great value indeed. If you find it, do please let me know as you are able.
Thanks!
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Excellent synopsis thank you. This spells it out exactly how I feared. Your breakdown is very thorough and gives a great picture of the state. Thank you for the info!
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If there is also censorship in Steemit, turn it off and let's go. I DO NOT believe that the community allows this. Let's see what happens.
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Uh Hello, go check my feed. You will notice it might be impossible to view from steemit.com! For Real censorship is here, sorry to burst your bubble!
Try my link:
https://steemit.com/sunset/@coininstant/tonights-sky-lii9uhsx
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Oh, that there was some means to effect your purpose. Stake weighting determines the weight of votes on the platform. The ~30 or so whales can simply outvote everyone else on the platform, even if everyone else was of one mind and purpose - which is not even remotely potential.
The ninjamine pre-empowered our present ruling class on Steem. That's why it cannot attract investors seeking capital gains, as the only mechanism capable of ROI on Steem is rapine profiteering, which proves historically to destroy investment vehicles.
AMA. I have some small grasp of the principles underlying investment methodologies, and would be willing to provide such information as I possess.
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I'm selling my steem because of a narcissistic bot owner that is down voting me for no reason. Kicked me out of discord when pleaded my case. Made me feel like I wasted 3 years here.
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Sorry about that, and I can completely see what you mean. It is obvious and apparent right off the bat. I haven't even gotten the hang of Steem yet fully, but I see the abused 'freedom'. Exists on all platforms but this insta-auto-hide feature is not so good. Detrimental in fact, to everyone except the narcissistic spy bots with agendas and a silencer blockchain bot army to shut up any voice that doesn't fit the 'narrative' that it wants.
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Yes exactly. They can 'hide' your comment by simply downvoting it. This platform is a joke.
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