It would be nice if they both started paying attention to the points being made by statements rather than other things. They may be able to find common ground to the benefit of everyone. There is a lot of ad hominum here - and whenever it surfaces, it should be called out, without fear nor favor.
Reggamuffin makes a good call for witnesses to join in a pledge of some kind. On the other hand, sircork has a lot to offer also and dismissing him off as a troll seems too unkind imo. Both guys get a yellow card and a voucher to a hotel room (where they can go speak this out over a few drinks) on me ;-)
Ooooh can I get a voucher too? :P
But seriously - I can't disagree and I do wish discussions that can benefit us all involved a lot less drama and a lot more action items.
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hehe we can go get drunk up in the place. yea! I respect both these guys and i see some hotly-driven opinions and reactions back and forth. hot blood in the heart tends to be a good sign - in the head, not so much. what i found funny is both were calling ad hominem selectively while both were doing it on one another. A bit of a pause - or reset - a day or two should get them playing nicely again. Maybe. sigh! smh
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Awkshuwally.. I did not cry "ad homenim" but rather, I dismissed attempts to discredit.
The problem I have with adding more to what I've said is exposing things and people which at this juncture would not further goals and implications that are being asserted to ears not appearing in this surface level conversation, which if included here would not serve a purpose I need them to serve. At this time...
The very carefully chosen messaging I've posted to each involved party carries further messages most assuredly being heard and observed by the necessary parties. People who are engaging against me (so to speak) may or may not know why they are doing so, and how the public perception of what is transpiring here is being manipulated by either unintended or purposeful design.
Suffice it to say, trust but verify. Not all good guys look like good guys until the end of the movie.
Very often they are painted by bad guys to look quite the opposite, as conspiratorial, negative, prejudiced or crazy. And it's easy to marginalize from a position of apparent power.
Cryptic? You betcha. But the ears it needs to fall on will have no trouble deciphering my messages at all. And it should alarm them. Very much.
this does not constitute investment advice, do your own research, copious amounts of it, on any platform you choose to invest in, and as always, your mileage may vary, with the vehicles you choose. ;)
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Thank you for doing your best to help me understand. I already understood.
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