In a previous post we discussed how we are in the process of splitting Condenser (the open source software that powers steemit.com) into two separate applications that will work together seamlessly. One application will handle all the financial functions (wallet) that require a higher level of security, and the other application will handle all the social functions that require a relatively lower level of security. The end result will be two applications that are more secure and optimized for their specific functions.
Private Key Management
This “separation of concerns” is similar in concept to the different types of keys every Steem account holder is given when they create an account. These keys “unlock” different levels of control over an account. One of the advantages of the split will be that it will enable us to create a more intuitive user experience with respect to the use of your keys. For that reason we thought we would take this opportunity to educate any users who are still confused by the private key system on what these keys do and how they can be used safely.
Posting Key
In today’s post we want to focus primarily on the Posting Key and Master Password as these help explain the overall design of Steem’s private key system. Steem’s private keys are “hierarchical” which means that each one enables the key holder to perform a wider variety of activities with the associated account. The “Posting Key” is at the bottom of the hierarchy because it can do the least. It can only be used to perform social activities like posting, commenting, upvoting and downvoting. While these activities are common, they do not require a high level of security, because they do not authorize any operations which can negatively impact token balances.
If you prefer watching to reading, check out this video in which Steemit’s Content Director (@andrarchy) explains Steem’s Private Key system:
To retrieve your Posting Key, go to the permissions tab inside your Steemit wallet. Your public Posting Key will be at the top of the page and alongside it you will see a button that says “SHOW PRIVATE KEY.” When you click on that button you will be prompted to input your Active Key or Master Password. Once you do so, your private Posting Key will be displayed. At this point you might want to consider saving this key to a password manager like LastPass or Dashlane for safe storage.
A user’s keys are vulnerable any time they are entered into an application. A malicious actor could create a fake interface at a domain that is a common misspelling of steemit.com and that requests you input your private keys (phishing). A malicious browser plugin can also gain access to keys stored in your computer’s memory or your web browser’s cookies. Having a Posting Key ensures that the key that is used the most–and is therefore most likely to be acquired by a malicious actor–conveys the least authority. Even if a hacker does get this key, the only things they can do with the account are the social activities (as opposed to financial).
Because the Posting Key has the fewest authorities, there is no harm in always attempting to use the Posting Key if you are not confident about which key should be used. In other words, if all of this sounds confusing, all you need to remember is that the safest option is to only use your Posting Key. If a key with higher authority is required to perform the action, you will be informed by the interface that the Posting Key is insufficient and that another key is required.
In the vast majority of such cases, you will then use your Active Key. But remember to be more cautious in those circumstances. That being said, the Posting Key can certainly be abused too, so users should always be vigilant. We will continue to release posts like this to educate users about how they can protect themselves within the Steem ecosystem.
Master Password
While a hacker acquiring a Posting Key might be unpleasant for the account holder, as long as the rightful account owner still has their Master Password (or their Owner Key), they can always change all the other keys and regain total control over their account.
Password v. Key
One might wonder why the Master Password isn’t also called a “key.” That’s because all of the keys are actually derived from this single password. That’s why it’s called the “Master” password. It is also called the “seed” because it is the first password that is created, and it is from that the rest of the keys spring forth. That’s why it can be used to perform any function on Steem, from social activities to financial activities. Its convenience has led many to use this password for everything, but this is the precise opposite of its intended use.
Since keys can be used to do any activity in Steem apps like steemit.com, the Master Password should be securely stored in a password manager (like LastPass or Dashlane), or offline entirely, and only used for highly-trusted applications, minimizing the risk it could be acquired by a malicious actor. Remember, if you use your private keys right, you be unlikely to use the Master Password ever, therefore sacrificing some convenience for the benefit of security is a worthwhile tradeoff.
Steem Connect and Keychain
Users should always be careful when signing into any site that requests any of their private keys. We at Steemit, Inc. can only speak to the security of steemit.com. Otherwise, we recommend only signing into websites through SteemConnect which is an open-source, universal, login layer for Steem Apps, built by a community developer (@fabien) in collaboration with Steemit, Inc. Think of it as “Facebook Connect” for Steem apps.
Users who do not want to input their private keys into Steem-powered websites can use the the Keychain extension created by the @steemmonsters team. Keychain stores Steem keys in a browser extension which can automatically provide the appropriate keys when prompted by a Steem app, thereby foregoing the need for users to expose their keys by copy-and-pasting them into a website.
Summary
The goal of this post was to focus primarily on the Posting Key and Master Password because understanding these two items delivers the most insight into the overall design of the system. The Posting Key is at the very bottom of the hierarchy because it grants the least authority, but it is also the key Steemians should be using the most since it governs social functions. The Master Password, on the other hand, is at the very top of the hierarchy because it grants the most authority and is almost never necessary.
We will cover the rest of the keys in future posts, so if you found this informative, be sure to follow @steemitblog and please share this post with anyone who is trying to gain a better understanding of the private key system.
The Steemit Team
Great post. What is the memo key for and where does it fit in the security hierarchy?
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What is Memo in Steemit
Memos (in steemit specifically ) are the short messages attached with the crypto transaction (that is steemit tokens).
What Memo key is used for:
Memo key is used to decrypt private transfer memos or in simple words to create and read memos.
Where it fits in the security hierarchy:
Well it comes under master and owner key but separately, I mean separate diagram for it because it doesn't cover active key and posting key. This (Memo key) is exceptionally different (than active and posting keys) and specifically used for on Memos (short messages). It useless now and can be ignored like hardly few people use it. see here :
steem-keys-and-passwords-full-guide
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ちょっと外れ値なのでメモキー。メモ キーができる唯一のことは、ブロックチェーンを介して送信されるプライベート メッセージの暗号化と復号化です。これはいつか強力な機能になる可能性がありますが、今日では一般的に使用されていません。暗号化を解除したいプライベート メッセージを受信した場合は、いつものように必要最小限の権限を持つキーを使用する必要があります。この場合はメモ キーです。
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メモキーは暗号化・複合化に対してのキーであるから、セキュリティ階層にはあまり適合しないのでは?外れた場所にあるキー的な
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Very nice tutorial! So glad to see this coming from the Steemit blog, simple to understand information like this is exactly what new users need. I agree with Crim, we need this in one easy to find location with some other FAQ. Nice progress!
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Easy for you to say, I still feel vulnerable with things being changed fast.
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This is really well put together! Well done~ I'm going to carry it through into some of the new user communities. I hope to see this rolled into the FAQ here or into however you refresh the introductory new user experience for front ends with the upcoming split~
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Thanks Crim! That's the idea!
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Couple of years ago, on recommendation of PBG, I opened an account and invested couple hundred bucks into SP (and even made a post); sorry to say - very very confusing site(s). For www.steemit.com I have user name and all my keys; for Steem Chat I have another user name AND password. To get to my wallet I have to print one of the keys! But the worst thing it is impossible to find Support or Help on your site, to ask questions (not addressed to in FAQ), e.g. how do I assign a password (rather than key), to acess my wallet? what is the address to use, to access Hive blockchain, to see the results of the recent fork? Can anybody contact me via [email protected] ? Thanks.
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Superb video. Having things like this to send new users to when they ask about the keys, or even linking to from the FAQ in different dApps will be really helpful!
Shame I can't flag people who comment on YouTube though.
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Great video! This really breaks it down so it's useful to newbies but many users that have been here for a long time might have an 'aha' moment too :-)
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I'd hope everyone uses a password manager if some sort as you need unique passwords for each site anyway. Something like Lastpass also reduces risk as it will only supply the password for the real site and not for a fake one.
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I never got this one:
Master Password (or their Owner Key).
Are these two different names for the same thing or I'm missing something?
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Yes I was confused by this as well for a long time but I'm pretty sure that yes Master/Owner key is the same, then you have the active and the posting key.
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@oldtimer, @direwolf: No, they are not the same.
Owner Key is derived from the Master Password in a same way as Posting Key.
Let's say user
bob
is setting his new Master Password.It will look like this:
P5Hzer2h4R4Lkkjr455T4msnJyjwwmrjLLDYNATMAukM2yehVE6R
.Steem blockchain however, doesn't know anything about Master Password as such.
It uses keys, such as Posting Key, Active Key, Owner Key that are derived from the Master Password.
In such case
bob
will have:Private Owner Key:
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Private Active Key:
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Private Posting Key:
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How I know it? There's a
cli_wallet
functionality that lets you derive key pairs from the Master Password. It's used for convenience, as you need to securely store one, instead all four.To derive Owner Key from Master Password,
bob
would need to use:get_private_key_from_password bob owner P5Hzer2h4R4Lkkjr455T4msnJyjwwmrjLLDYNATMAukM2yehVE6R
Same for every role.
In fact you don't need to have Master Password at all. Your private keys can be generated and changed independently.
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What is a cli-wallet and where can I find it?
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cli_wallet
is a command line tool, a part of https://github.com/steemit/steemYou can either build it yourself or extract it from a docker image.
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Thanks for the info. And where is the master password? Never seen it. I only got the four keys.
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You get Master Password at the time of account creation through Steemit site (which I believe is what you got yours). You don't need it as long as you have all your private keys, or at least your private owner key, so you can set all the others.
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Is there a scenario, where the private owner key is not enough and where you need the master password? e.g. account recovery?
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No. Steem blockchain doesn't know about your Master Password.
Master Password is like a Master Key, that allows you to open doors on all levels of the building. You can use that one or separate keys. Separate key for the highest level in the building is enough to open it.
Also, if you change the lock in that door, Master Key will no longer be able to open it.
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Ok. Now I know what's my error. I thought that I have the 4 private keys active, memo, posting and owner. I thought my password is missing. But: I do have the password and only the three private keys active, memo and posting. I don't know my owner private key, because it is not shown in the Steemit wallet. I think it is genarated automatically if I enter my password in Steemit.
Ist there a way to get the private owner key?
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I agree.
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Thank you so so much. This is very clear. I do appreciate your effort in achieving this platform keys. Keep aiming higher. I'm in love with steemit
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Thank you! keep it up! good day everyone!
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I think this blockchain-based social media would push speaking freedom. but I wish it could be like Bitcoin, people can sign up freely instead of requiring email and phone number, people can use many opensource client instead of single website.
这个区块链社交媒体无疑会推动言论自由,但我希望它变得像比特币一样:自由注册,不需要手机号,开源的客户端而非只有一个网站。
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Can i get money?
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hi, i wish you all the best
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Wow amazing ,this is a great post and !! Thank you
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Thank you for this informative blog. I somehow feel a little bit clarified on what key should I used since I am still a neophyte here I get to know more about the keys and their uses. Great content.
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Good
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Wow thanks for this great post
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Hello,
After changing the keys some time ago, I can only log in to my account with the Posting Key, I try to reveal the other keys by entering the password Posting Key and nothing has the same asterisks, I have the old Active Key but it doesn't work well.
Thank you
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原谅是这样的,学习了
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Cześć
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Great! Steemit needs more official tutorials. This may also be of interest: Steemconnect login with posting key instead of active key
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Great tutorial. Quite informative even though short. Would like to know, which category does the password generated using the link sent to our emails during sign-up, fall in?
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Excellent
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Hi. I visited for the first time.
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Im confised. I have 1 password and after some days i got one transaction id ..what is that then?
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And when i have to use master key?
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Thanks.. This post is very good
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STEEM, is a token that can be transferred and traded like Bitcoin. STEEM can be converted to STEEM POWER.... Steem is the best. I think, Steem is A Proof of Concept (POC) and are a small exercise to test the design idea or assumption.
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For me absolute stupid way here. Plaese dont name it private key if it is server key. Real private keys should be generate offline and never put into any open file on internet.
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I'm having immense trouble with this - I can't get into my wallet to obtain the private key because it requires a private key to get in.
Is there a way to reset this with Steem or is there another way to get this securely?
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Mi pregunta con cual clave ingreso a mi monedero para gestionar?
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Again and again I try to withdraw SBD to Bittrex from my wallet and get -
"Transaction broadcast error"
I did it before hundreds of times.
I have read all instructions and manuals here,
I enter my Active Key
I enter memo and...
Again the same...
"Transaction broadcast error"
What is going on? Could anyone help me?
PS. OK, guys I have helped myself.
I have read the instructions one more time and it helped)))))
So, for transactions Withdrawal SBD for example - you need NOT all those keys, that are mentioned in your account. But that one, that is saved (if you had done transactions before, at Google Password manager.
IMPORTANT. This password start not from "S", or "5" but from "P" only.
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dams ahole are gonna try stealing our Steem - having the same issue. This platform is getting to be a joke.
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Very nice tutorial & very helpful and concise.
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Definitely very helpful and concise!
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I don't get it yet :(
I click on the reveal button but the passwords stay the same (***************) like that.
I click reveal, I log in, but any of the keys reveal
help me out please?
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Much more informative writings.
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https://steemit.com/steem/@steemitblog/steem-basics-understanding-private-keys-part-1
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https://steemit.com/steem/@steemitblog/steem-basics-understanding-private-keys-part-1
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I think the picture of wallet should be changed as below.
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This is absolutely tremendous....
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I cant sell my steem... everytime i try to transfer to blocktrades it says "transaction broadcast error missing active authority..." it's driving me crazy! Help me i want the money back
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I understand the key process and its' need but what I don't understand is when I log into my account and navigate to "key/permissions" and try to copy any key so I can save it outside my account , I cannot. I click "reveal" and it takes me to the log in page. I log in and that sends me back to permissions where I hit reveal again and I am sent back to login. How do i reveal my keys??????? Help!
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Very nice tutorial! So glad to see this coming from the Steemit blog, simple to understand information like this is exactly what new users need.
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Thanks, I could enter again
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esteem app asks for master password. What can you say about that?
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Esteem has SteemConnect support. It's a great app that has been around for a long time and has a great developer behind it, @good-karma.
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Glad to know, im a huge fan
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Thank you for sharing. I havent been on this for awhile and gotta catch up. There are so many apps to choose from for Steem Connect how does one determine which one is the best to join? Do the posts from one app connect to the other apps? Or do you need an account for all of them? Thank you.
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Ok
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Okee
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Definitely
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Hi and thank you for the instruction. I am new to the platform and I need help to withdraw steems i bought from Bittrex to my steem wallet. Can you help me please or which is the correct key to withdrawal ?
withdrawal tab on Bittrex has Memo and recipient wallet address. I have tried so many tutorials about transferring the coin but each time was invalid.
Thank you
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Thank you for replying. What is the code for please?
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hi
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hello
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Крутой пост , мне нравится всё стало ясно
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well explained
i find it very interesting all this
just learned about it like a week ago
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Good jop, thanks @steemitblog
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can I get some piont?
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Hi to all out there. I am new here want some guidance.
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I appreciate all of the information. I’m new to this site and must admit, there is a significant amount of excitement from what I’ve witnessed thus far. Trying not to become overwhelmed in the beginning is always a challenge. I’m sincerely in awe of the capabilities here. Thanks
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Thanks. Being a new steemit user, I am delight to see such a great and helpful post to prevent our account from being abused by hackers. I highly recommend all new steemit should have a read on this post.
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Nowadays you people are very active. it is very good ♥
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We've always been active, we're just communicating a lot more ;) Thanks!
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glad to hear this... boss
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Hello
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I tried to login with my masterkey which I kept saved over the years, but how can I receive a posting key to get logged in again?
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I am new and this was very easy to follow!
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Es mi primera publicación, un poco complicado al tratar de conseguir la clave para el login pero se pudo.
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Yes
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Couldn’t see where to save my pdf password keys page so I screen shot it, wrote it out and try using it but it keeps failing. How can I get my master key like the pdf doc page sent me so I can try saving it directly. .? Pls o need some advise
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Muy buena la inducciòn acerca del manejo de las claves de seguridad de steemit. Gracias.
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great!!!!!
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goood
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Buena publicación. ¿Para qué sirve la clave de nota y dónde encaja en la jerarquía de seguridad?
ملصق ممتاز. ما هو مفتاح المذكرة وأين يتلاءم مع التسلسل الهرمي الأمني؟
Отличный пост. Для чего нужен мемо-ключ и какое место он занимает в иерархии безопасности?
زبردست پوسٹ۔ کس میمو کی کلید ہے اور یہ سیکیورٹی درجہ بندی میں کہاں فٹ بیٹھتی ہے؟
महान पद। मेमो कुंजी किसके लिए है और यह सुरक्षा पदानुक्रम में कहाँ फिट होती है?
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What is a Memo Key in this regards? I got it when signed up, thank you!
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This is interesting. Every Time I try to view my Active key so I can PowerUP I get an error.
RPCError. missing required active authority: Missing Active Authority? Plus it keeps asking me to log in. Before I can freely view all my keys, not its asking me for the password. Well something is obviously wrong, because I have the password written down and stored digitally. And had no issues previously.
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EXCELENTE POST.
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Sangat membantu bagi pengguna baru, Terima kasih orang baik
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Steemit team may always be best team.
Hope you to accept me as your new member.
Thanks
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Hope you all be your new member. Thank you
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Good post. I will translate this and share it with our local communication members.
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Baca dari postingan ini memang betul dan menarik, untuk apa key memo atau kunci memo di dalam hirarki keamanan? Benar kan ?
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Hi Team, I have a problem when I am on my wallet and try to market my SBD to Steem in order to power up. Nothing happens when I finish the transaction. Is this because I have a new laptop with Windows 10? I also have the same problem on my new Android smart phone. Also unable to power up or do any other transactions on my wallet. Everything worked normally when I had my old laptop. Please help!
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This is absolutely tremendous
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How do i start
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Thank you,
This was a good review of an important topic.
I will resteem this post.
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Hello @steemitteam and @steemitblog the easiest way to explain this is.
(Difference between master key and posting key).
If its accessing a home.
The posting key is the gate key.
It will allow you access the inside of the home that's the compound but it never help you access the house.
The active key can help you get access to the sitting room and the dinning room but never in accessing the bed room.
The master password as its even called master can help one access the compound it can help you access the sitting room and dinning just like the active and it can help you access the bedrooms.
Once one losses the master password he has lost it all.
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This is a critical and clear article for perusers. ceme online
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Interesting. Shared with my followers :-)
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can I help you sir?
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excelente, tengo algunas dudas pero buena publicacion
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