It has been a long couple of days but, Steem hasn't been so far from my mind. I have even managed to post a couple of times and hopefully do some good with my VP. Thank you for all the comments wishing my family health, they are appreciated. I have spent the last hour and a half trying to answer as many as I can but I missed a lot. Just so you know though, it is nice to come home after a tough day to some support. Thanks again.
Which leads me into a little topic about communities here. @krnel asked me about how to incentivize quality content and I think that community functionality will go a long way to making this at least somewhat possible. And, some people are doing it already and some are using it very poorly.
A community is essentially a circlejerk around one topic or at higher level of a range of topics. Essentially though, community is about exclusion, not inclusion as to be a part of the community and get support, there are generally hurdles to jump over. In the real world, to be part of the community one must abide by a set of social rules and if unacceptable behaviour takes place, there are social costs to it. This is only useful of course of the costs are paid directly by the rule breaker. Now, I am not condoning this, it is just the way it goes in community.
Steem already has communities built up but for the most part, they are disorganised and random and those that are organised are generally the ones who base their community on 'friends, family and finance' so to speak. These groups can be very well supported and very lucrative for members but, there is a very narrow chance of obtaining membership once formed and many were formed well before most of us were on Steem. Large amounts of value is spread in narrow circles.
Okay, not very 'community orientated' sounding I know but, this is pretty much how many of the SMTs could work and the groups created on community will also. What this means is that communities will likely be much more sensitive to the content they create, curate and where they put their value, as their own SMT will be affected by how they manage their community. That means that they will likely need some decent SP to curate and be relatively picky with how they use it to not only maximise their return but, build their community.
Do you see how some of the problems we have now could be approached with SMTs and community? Instead of having a melting pot of content with wildly varying degrees of effort, quality, skill and understanding, the communities will mean that there will be barriers of entry to be included in the supported echelons. Not very inclusive but, reward should go to those who are actively pulling their weight and in niche communities, they are going to get more sticky on various points.
We kind of see it now with something like #deepdives in their research challenges (supported by @v4vapid, @canadian-coconut, @ausbitbank, @fulltimegeek and several others, you can find more here from their intro post) as to 'qualify' for the larger amounts of support, a fair amount of research and effort is required in areas that not everyone is able to excel at.
It is the same for groups that will be based on things like music, art or banjo playing. You are going to have to know or learn how to play a banjo to take part in that community. Going there and offering irrelevance or low quality is just not going to get support and is likely to see some kind of social penalty applied.
Each large community is likely going to try to attract or be founded by considerable amounts of Steem Power that is looking to support a pet topic or area of interest. Many will overlap and it will be possible to be part of more than one community of course but, each group is going to get increasingly demanding on what hurdles must be overcome for membership and as the values of some increase over others, there will be even more competitive pressures.
This means that even though everyone technically has access to the pools through content creation, unless they are associated with and significantly proficient at something, they will slowly find their chances of random support diminished greatly. Many people now are going to find themselves out in the cold or at least, the water they swim in increasingly icing over. I am pretty sure that I am in this group myself as for the most part, my content is me, not a highly trained skill other than my ability to write and think. It will be hard for someone such as myself to get a foothold in any particular community however, for most people, this is a blessing.
As more and more niche communities are created, more people will be able to find something that both interests them and they are able to contribute to at a decent level. This is a part of the melting pot problem and why a newcomer has so little chance of being seen and why community functionality is an imperative tool. Combined with SMTs and Hivemind, there will be increasing ways to decrease the numbers who qualify. Make sense? It means someone can come in with nothing and find 'their people' straight away with a few clicks.
People want more filters so they can better discover content that is relevant and of quality but what a filter does is exclude content that it deems doesn't qualify. It is judgemental and if one is unable to 'beat' the filters and get included in the search, one doesn't have much hope of being seen. But, beating the filters is only the first step as once in the eyes of a particular community, it is those community eyes who will judge worthy or not. Is your content worthy?
These filters will also have various new abilities that will be able to identify various types of accounts and potentially include or exclude them automatically. Who knows how this will be used but perhaps those who offer Spam, plagiarised content or do not reply to enough of their comments received will start finding themselves in those cold waters. They could also potentially look back in history and see what kinds of behaviours there were to some extent also perhaps. Interesting isn't it?
As 'official' communities start to enter the pools and the SMTs begin to compete for air also, Steem is going to look fundamentally different. People should stop worrying too much about the trending page today because it will be even more irrelevant tomorrow. There are going to be opportunities for many more people to embed themselves into a supported group but, there is also going to be increased competition due to this.
Yes, this is social media and it is the way it works now but, very few actually have a chance to be a part of the monetized world of it as a central authority's algorithm dictates terms. Here, it will be the actual communities who will have a make or break affect and in time, they will become somewhat authoritative as they will become exclusive.
I think that the best way to be a part of the Steem Future, is to be a part of the Steem Present and start building your network and community now, not wait for changes to happen. Social is social because of the interactions and sharing of idea as well as the willingness to care about that interaction and sharing from generally more than a financial perspective. Once communities are built based on things people actually care about, engagement becomes critical.
The future of Steem looks bright for people on Steem who are willing to be part of the community in some way. Quality of content will count in the future but it is the quality now that will be the foot into a community door. I am hoping that when the time comes, when I knock, someone will let me in and I won't be standing cold and hungry, filtered-out and on the wrong side of the barbed-wired blockchain fence.
Taraz
[ a Steem original ]
Notes:
I mentioned deepdives in particular because it is new, interesting and the amount of work some people are putting in is incredible. Good work to all involved.
Due to recent events, I have had ~6 hours sleep in 3-4 days so I will try to get a few more hours now before getting up early to head back to the hospital. I am slowly catching up but, I will get to the comments here later.
Talk amongst yourselves.
Basically that's something I recall saying in our conversations not long ago. You just took these ideas further and added a lot of meat to the bones. So, I agree except that I would say Steem Power is the most important thing right now instead of the random connections we have made so far. Now, I like the randomness and open-endedness of the current state of Steem quite a lot. But I'm also prepared for and actually looking forward to a future where communities are SMT based and isolated from each other. Commenting well is my schtick I think I'm capable of adding value to conversations in many fields.
Photography is one obvious niche you could do very well in. You have sufficient SP to be taken seriously in any niche you demonstrate any interest in but you are actually a highly proficient amateur photographer. In light of that, I find it a bit surprising that I don't recall you once writing anything about the technical and artistic aspects of photography that you are obviously well versed at.
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Yes, it is and I agree SP is the most important thing right now too but for most people, the fastest way to grow this will be a combination of connection and 'whatever' else they can do to grow.
I have done a couple things a long time ago around this area but I am less technical and more 'feel' based as a photographer. It has limited range.
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Yes, it's true that most people who cannot afford to buy SP with fiat or other cryptos need to form connections and try to get upvotes.
It is patently obvious from looking at your photographs that you know how manage light and basic settings like shutter speed, ISO and f-value and use them to get the desired effect. You clearly understand composition and have a pretty good handle on what looks visually appealing even if you lack the skill to explain it well. Most importantly, you have good ideas. You know how and when to deviate from established aesthetic rules to create the desired effect. For example, you once posted a photo of a tram or a train. The picture was slanted which was the correct choice in that case because it enhanced the sense of movement. You also know how to use long exposure to the same effect. Maybe you're not the guy to talk about the technical stuff in painstaking detail but you have plenty of good ideas you can share. Any community of photographers on Steem would welcome a very good photographer like you with 20,000 SP with open arms.
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I believe that the word that you are looking for is "clique" also known as:
"a small group of people, with shared interests or other features in common, who spend time together and do not readily allow others to join them".
If steemit is going to become like that, it's going to turn off a lot of people and is completely the opposite of what attracted a lot of users here in the first place.
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Steemit might not matter at all in this as the SMTs will make it a natural hing. Like some preferring twitter over instagram. Steem is the chain that matters, steemit just an access point.
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I am here just to say that I have never thought about this
before especially Steemit being just an access point.
I am sitting here thinking... so how many access point can Steem have?
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I see steemit as a brand but if it is merely an access point I see millions if not more possibilites.
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Some really important insights here. One man's feast is another man's famine.
Rest up, mate.
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weird on the decline payout... this is so you don't waste VP. :P
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That horse has bolted :)
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I would have liked to have gone a little further but my head isn't cooperating. time to sleep.
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Don't worry, Cranky-Dolphins will always have a place for you.
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Lol. This is what I am hoping until I can make it into Grumpy-Orcas one day.
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And leave us all behind?
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hopefully pull as many with as possible.
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I don't know what the future will bring . this will evolve . apps are being built so I can only assume that Steem will generate other platforms . keep powering up is the safest bet . for now and the near future . it will also put one in a better position with communities and any other changes that come
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I agree. As I said a moment ago to someone here, this will best be achieved with a combination effort of network and 'alternate' possibilities.
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When you say that the community is about exclusion and not inclusion you are actually making a solid point. The community is a sub set in a much larger Venn diagram and apparently it is not just a subset it is actually a very small one too. Since most of the communities are small except for a few that are the exception.
At the end of the day we all maybe part of one or the other community but most of the people are not part of our community. Yet in a social environment we tend to seek support of groups with interests matching ours.
Now here is the weir part - we hope to share our talents inside that group so we may rise to a position of prominence within it. Final aim being that once we rise high enough our voice could be heard by people outside that community. Groups that tend to recognize that may not be very warm but they can be competitive and with a propensity for creating leaders.
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This is what a lot of people find difficult here as it isn't 'apparent' who is similar until more investigation is made which requires work/engagement. Going on content alone is difficult because it is only a part of the story and most people mix and match a little.
It is about creating influence and recognition for ones own position I guess.
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If that is so it will be good for most of us. My problem is I am a jack of all trades and a master of none. I enjoy people and not necessarily one particular topic. I will just have to kick some doors down and hope they accept me lol. I don't really want to write about one topic and rather what interests me at the time. Maybe there will be a general area. Will just have to wait and see but sounds good for the future of this place.
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I think/hope there will be general content interfaces too as many are like you on both a creation and consumption frame. Competition might be higher there but unsure yet.
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Interestin' times ahead...
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lol
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"I think that the best way to be a part of the Steem Future, is to be a part of the Steem Present and start building your network and community now, not wait for changes to happen"
Bullseye!
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I love how you explain everything in detail which enables those a bit behind on Steem matters to catch up. This more than enough to get you in a good community and hopefully they won't be blind to your potential and include you among those in charge of bettering that community. To me, your efforts belong there.
May the universe grant health to you and yours :)
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Thinking through it in more detail helps me learn it better too and find new parts I have considered before. If it helps you good, but I am very selfish ;)
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There's beauty in your being selfish :)
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I think it is one of the good skills to find relevant communities and people of interest and to establish a relationship with them. In real life, one always gets attracted towards people with similar interests and I think it is the same here with varying degrees.
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what I see in the discords is for the majority it nothing more the an advertising site for their posts . The minority of the people work in curating . To bad its not reversed because the minority put a lot of time and energy into it , not to mention the support they give out .
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Discord can be lonely especially if you are looking to connect. People are just there for show.
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I have meet people on discord or chats that are true givers . and doing their best to make it a better platform . and yes there are those how just want to take . but you will find that throughout life in any arena . you might have to look hard but nothing good in life is easy
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Not everyone needs to be a subject matter expert. People can still be rewarded for good questions that show passion and ad value.
People can still create short stories or humor related posts.
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Very important ideas excellent friend post that you have many successes and rest friend
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I have thought of the Steem Future and communities and how my feed is going to look like and if my content will be seen in some people that read mine today because all of their feed will show those that they follow but not necesarily because of a certain tag but hivemind and communities might change that.
When I first joined steemit 7 months ago I was taken in by a group right away and the MO was to circle jerk and resteem all posts. I did not last long because of the arrogance and self entitlement of some people that because they were in the platform longer and deserved their upvote.
2nd group I was in was mostly composed of family and friends and I was not that comfortable at first as I was one of the few outsiders but eventually grew to like them and helped build that community and one of the proponents I espoused was the ideals in inclusiveness and mentorship.
Alas some things change so much and I left when the core grew elitist and wanted to purge majority of what they deem as "low quality posters" and those who were not hanging out in discord.
We have to understand that some people are not in discord but in the posts. commenting and giving feedback there and to penalize people for not chewing the fat and spending hours chatting is unfair. So I left.
Another community I was in was being delegated SP and they were accused of playing favorites and circle jerking which was true. Oh how power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.
So far I have been with the Promo-mentors the longest because of its mission and vision in steem of wanting to add value to the blockchain.
There is also freedom and choice there because the rules are reasonable and the targets not that hard to hit.
I think even if I have left a lot of communities I have still been able to connect and create deep human connections with some people.
Like you I often talk about myself, my views on Steem and Steemit things, I seldom write prose and a lot less poetry. I do talk about charity and alturism at times.
I can't draw to save my life and as much as I want to sing, throat injuries prevent mefrom doing that and it is one of my fears with communities that I may be left out without a niche.
So using one of my skills, networking and engagement I hope that I will remain relevant not because of the size of my wallet which I continually power up, but because of what I bring in the platform.
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You got a 47.63% upvote from @ocdb courtesy of @tarazkp!
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A good post. I hope your daughter is getting better bud and how are you guys holding up?
It could be tricky for some, but maybe a challenge set some people might actually make more effort. The idea makes me a little nervous as I wouldn't really like to be limited, but as I said, one would have to hone your skills and work hard at broadening your horizons.
I hope it does not turn the platform into a clicky bitch platform instead of a large community platform.
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