Since there are a lot of issues with Steem that every one has some opinion on, I thought I would ask the question:
What keeps you at Steem?
There is already a growing number of competitors out there often cited that offer alternative approaches to Steem. There are platforms claiming better and fairer distribution. There are people here who say it will never work, there are people who say it is almost guaranteed. There are users who speak loudly but act small, and others who act big but are largely silent. There are a myriad scams as well as many many projects developing. There is the coming SMTs, Hivemind, Resource Credit pools and Oracles but, uncertainty surrounds them. There are those among the world's richest and many among the world's poorest. Some live off Steem, others are collecting for a possible future. There are many ways, many people, many views, many opinions, many realities.
- Do the reasons change if you are a developer or a user?
- Does it matter if you earned Steem or bought in?
- Do current or past rewards change your opinion?
- Do your real world conditions affect your perspective?
- Does it matter if you are part of a community or not?
- Does where you live affect your views?
- Why be part of something when no one is forcing anyone to be here?
- If you don't know why you are here, why would you stay?
What I am hoping for is that a few people will potentially answer the core question and give their opinion on just Why they are here, posting, commenting or doing anything at all on Steem. If some share this and a wide enough selection of users take a little time to answer, it could make for a very interesting read to see opinions collected together as to why some people stay.
What keeps you at Steem?
Is it a hard or easy question for you to answer?
Taraz
[ a Steem original ]
The vision of future power an money, hope to gain capital - money that make more money.
I do not want to relay on selling my work to make living. I want to work for projects interesting to me, disregard monetisation. And capital can give me money with no work involved, to be free for my own life to live.
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I think Steem Power allows for a lot of future potential revenue streams that can help both build and personally earn. It is an interesting way to fund projects in my opinion :)
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Good questions T.
For this Knight, Steem has always been about FREEDOM. Freedom:
Steem cannot fail T. It has too much of a headstart and there are too many of us here that will make it work. But this is not to say that some will not exit prematurely and lose their stack.
And... should Steem ever drop below 50 cents - there are many like us who will be buying by the truck load.
I am... SirKnight.
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It is interesting that so few people are actually exploring the opportunities of the place. THey focus almost solely on SteemIt it self without realising they are free. Society's programming keeps us caged and while complaining about the bars, the door is open.
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few months ago @apsu asked the same thing "What's the thing which is keeping you all here?"
My answer was:
"Passion. Few people that I like. Inspirations. Models. Optimism. Curiosity.
I have never been outside of Lithuania and before steemit my connection with foreigners was basically limited to occasional comments on some let's plays. So I guess that this place also has some symbolic/ sentimental value for me."
My answer remains nearly the same. Perhaps I would add few words like dreams, fears and habits
Edit, memoriesEdit.Besides that I lack interest in cryptocurrency and even technology so I don't know about most other platforms. I created whaleshares account but I haven't posted anything yet. If I will use it will be just like with steemit- to showcase my creations. Maybe to find a few rare friends.When Dr.Watson told Sherlock Holmes that earth revolves around the sun Sherlock responded with:I didn't knew this. Now when I know this I will try to forget it as soon as possible.
I am no Sherlock Holmes but I also can't afford to keep track of all these(SMTs, Hivemind, Resource Credit pools and Oracles but, uncertainty surrounds them) things. Perhaps they will matter to me one day. Then I will learn about them. For now I simply want to create the best art I can create, somehow find ways to sell it, and interact with people that I like.
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Why hold onto the unnecessary?
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Greetings, @tarazkp
I am one of those who users who have been growing organically. I can't afford to invest on Steem more than I wish. I can't buy more than I get publishing content or via curations. If the venezuelan crisis weren't so severe I would be able to invest whatever money I'd make back in Steemit, but that I can't do at the moment.
I can't say I live off Steem because cashing in one or two SBDs a week is not a significant help even for venezuelans (inflation is devouring every dollar), but it provides some oxigen once on a while.
So, i am here more because of what Steemit has done for me.
It has provided me with a community of people with whom I can share what I do and get useful feedback and from whom I can learn on multiple areas or disciplines.
Steemit has kept me emotionally balanced by allowing me to vent some of my personal concerns in ways that have become therapeutic.
I know of other platforms, but I don't see why they would do better that this, and I can't handle the stress of being here and there (assuming one creates community there too and gets involved in projects, etc). If it were just about posting and waiting for the cash to come... But we know it does not work like that.
So, i am being very conservative in putting all my eggs in one basket, just because i can't afford the time and energy devoted to multiple projects.
I am rooting for a definite takeoff of Steemit as THE platform.
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If I knew of a more interesting place to spend my time learning from smart people, I'd be there instead.
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Not many places out there yet are there? there may be some better to earn on but that will provide a new set of issues for those platforms too. No matter what they try, unless imposing highly authoritative practices, they are all going to face similar issues. I think what many users want is to be put back in the cage so they don't have to see or deal with reality.
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Yeah, the general public has been absolutely domesticated by centralised platforms; no doubt.
I had a friend feed back concerns about how difficult his password is to remember, and how he lost it, and couldn't get back in, etc. He said if we just fix those things, we should be right.
That's not what this place is. You're not meant to remember your password, or be able to reset it with an SMS, it's not permission to ask permission to interact with the database; it's a key.
You own the only copy. You don't get authority without responsibility.
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You own the only copy. You don't get authority without responsibility.
People want the trappings but don't want to do the work to get there. They want freedom, but want it granted.
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Cutting out the middle man means doing all the stuff he did.
If you want zero censorship, you need to make the user the only actor with the power to add and remove content.
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Cutting out the middleman is going to be painful but if we can continue to build alongside, the technical switch itself can be largely pain-free.
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I started to make money, but I realized soon enough that it wasn't that simple. Now I know that Steemit may never make me rich, but I stay for the community. I met loads of cool people here, and leaving Steemit would be like leaving them also. I can't even imagine that. It doesn't stop me from joining other platforms however, because they are not mutually exclusive. Some also have loads of people from Steemit, so it's just like an expanding family =)
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This is the perfect attitude for Steem evecab - if everyone came here just for community and fun, you would be surprised at how rich us early adopter would eventually become.
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Rarely is makign money simple, otherwise everyone would have it :)
Many travel all over to try the competition or to attempt to be one of the early adopters and take advantage of the future. There are so many from Steem because they understand there is potential in creating community.
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have you tried any other platforms @tarazkp? I'm on whaleshares and scorum also. Lately I'm less on scorum though since it's mostly centered around football and soccer (I prefer martial arts), but whenever I have a fitness post, I put it there also.
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I play around a little on smoke.io to see how it goes. It has 50/50 curation which I find interesting to watch as it changes behaviours and interaction on the platform quite a lot.
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2 reasons. Free media from large corporations and profit.
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I love the community but most of all I love the journey. The possibility of making a decent amount of money once I grow my account is definitely one of the top reasons, no point in lying.
But I trully love the journey and I love seeing how my Steem Power grows every day, even if it's just 0.001 SP in form of a curation reward. I enjoy the grind.
Also, I believe in Steemit and STEEM and even 2018 hasn't treated cryptos that well, I thing that good things come to those who wait.
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Before starting to interact with steemit I was related to platforms to generate income but the profits that were generated were very small. I also related to a social platform in which I lost money.
After enrolling in steemit and starting to publish I have managed to start growing financially (even if it is slow) and have the satisfaction of expanding my friendship ties and of course my creativity is considered.
I just hope that this platform will eventually consolidate and we can all grow together for a better tomorrow.
Receive my affections.
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I stay simply so I can watch my enemies suffer
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Indeed. And the immutability means it can be relived all over again.
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What keeps me here? Hope. I'm on a mission to get my "stuff" used: Rub & Yawn, PaulsRobot etc. No charge.
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i haven't been on any social media sites for years - could never figure out how to make money from them. Steemit gives me a hobby as well as keeps me away from staring at trading view.
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Trading views suck ;)
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I'm a steemian who is new here...and does'nt know too much about steemit.
I hope steemit will prove best for me, and for all who are thinking of joing in it.
Should I be here or not?
Still confused
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I don't know. That is an answer you have to discover for yourself.
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@peerzadaaabid, No expectations, mate - IT's a trap! :)
Always better to be here, than there ;)
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@trayan
thanks for uar suggestion dude.
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For me, it's definitely community. I'm involved with the free writers, with the fifty worders and other writing communities here. If I left, I'd feel I was letting friends down so I'll be here until either Steemit dies or I do.
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Steem won't likely die (Steemit might) but it actually doesn't need 100m people to be successful, just a strong community that won't let it die.
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addiction.
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Good question and I look forward to reading the responses.
I’m here because I’m embedded. I’ve got good networks and enjoy the relationships I’ve formed. I’ve put a lot of time and energy into this place in the form of relationships, gaining a following and powering up onto the platform. And I want to keep investing here because I’m hopeful for the future. I don’t have energy to invest in another platform and I haven’t looked hard for another one because there is a lot going on here and I think Steem may yet rise again :)
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And as for why I choose this over regular social media sites (that all my IRL friends are on): better content and engagement here, no censorship, no hierarchy making bank off my back, no sold data and I can easily get away from the inane dribble rampant there.
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Not many people think about how they actually act here nor what it means to build a community.
There hasn't been a real rise yet, last year was an industry pump. If the rise comes, that pump is a tiny ant hill :)
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Great questions, I'm not really sure. I've been here almost a year now. It seems to be acting as savings for me. I try to take crypto profits in steem and send them here in the hopes of earning future interest. I like that no one knows me here and no one is really reading what I'm writing but I'm patient. I hope things get better.
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Often, if you want to get read, you have to get known to some degree since the discovery is shit.
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I know, I just know things take time and I have to meet more people.
I comment and talk as much as I can. The fact that no one knows me here I love. It's about meeting new people .
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Agreed it's why I try talking and commenting with people who are read well and have good content! :)
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I'm kept here by the future potential of this platform. The potential is mainly in the great versatility of the blockchain. It's being brought to life by dozens of developer teams all the time. New Steem apps are cropping up almost on a weekly basis. If such breakneck speed of development continues, some of those apps will go viral and cause the user numbers to explode. It's the development activity that we are witnessing right now that makes me believe this place may well have a very bright future.
All that combined with the knee-jerk FUD on Steem prevalent here and elsewhere has the fortunate effect of keeping stupid money out. That's great. At this stage, I want stupid money on the sidelines. I'm stacking up STEEM and I want no lemmings around trying to outbid me.
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It only takes a couple of them to take off and things change again and can move rapidly. I find that people tend to focus on narrow views they without considering what they don't.
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The community itself is what keeps me here. So many helpful and talented people use this platform. Theres also many opportunities for people here if they are willing to work for it. I also love communties on discord such as @minnowsupport, @ocd, @yougotsnekked, etc. I also enjoy being a curator for those projects. Other projects like @msp-waves and @steemmonsters are also keeping me here.
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I wonder if ore people joined communities to have some fun rather than try to earn or fix stuff if they will enjoy life on steem a little more.
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I think it would, it would be amazing if there was some better way to show the newer users how to find their way into discord communities and Steem.chat communities.
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As onboarding moves to the apps it will be quite easy.
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Well mate, at this time I'm already fried and ready to hit the sack. So, for now, I think that with the next quote below I will answer part of your questions and later on I'll try to address one by one more deeper. ;)
Just click and scroll down almost till the end of the post and watch the video to find the nitty-gritty of this comment.
"Hope walks through the fire and faith leaps over it"
Cheers!! :)
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get some rest.
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Currently Im just starting out to develop my blog. I don't earn that much but I know I will in the future. Im building on that.
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For me it is the relationships I have developed with other Steemian and the creative opportunity to express myself. I might ad it is a way to diversify financially. It certainly is not about making a living. LOL Thanks for asking @tarazkp
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Who knows where it will lead but I don't think the community would be as discussion invested without the financial opportunity to go along with it.
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Agreed. Everything in life goes back to money. There has to be some baited cheese. LOL
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I have a boring life and yeah that's about it
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In boredom is often when inventions are discovered and fun and adventure is to be had :)
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Working from home is nice, saving tokens for possible moonshot.
There are also plenty of nice people around here :)
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Sometimes I wish I could work somewhere else... :D
There is likely moons coming regardless of whether the place is functioning well or not. Will be nice for some and painful for others.
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Seems that you got the community engaged rather early to start the week! These questions are very relevant as many have become more passionate about the future of Steem lately. From my perspective, I think of a future where Steem can provide an ecosystem for all my social interactions: games, utility, consulting, goods and many other things we seek when we go online. As it is being built, I am looking for a place to support the growth and help the value be created by supporting new users or projects that have similars visions. So far, I have enjoyed my journey as I have been learning so much about the potential here that it helps me engaged around the community.
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THe more people get interested, the better it will be.
I think many people don't realise the sheer volume of possibility a content chain offers, they are tied to the current forms.
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I’m here because it’s the best place to stay updated on crypto news.
And I have started building relationships here because I find it meaningful to exchange ideas with people in this community consisting of mostly early adopter -mentality, people are willing to experiment and try new things even if they may fail. This is a healthy state of mind that I would like to get inspired by every day.
The culture is open and welcoming.
Maybe a bit too ruthless against newcomers breaking the unwritten rules. ;)
People here care about the future and new ideas. And the high barriers to entry into this platform results in an above average level of discussion quality. It makes it worthwhile to start deep discussions here.
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I think the ruthless is at the other end of the scale but I haven't been a newcomer for a while so it is hard for me to know :)
People want to be all inclusive and still drive quality. There is not a high chance of having both in this world. New platforms that arrive on Steem might section the types off a bit more though.
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Literally was just thinking about our current culture and how we need to evolve as a community if we’re ever going to realize our potential worth.
As a new stake holder I’m starting to see the whole vote box debate in a while new light.
I think it’s great we can promote our posts and even make a little passive income through delegations, but is it sustainable considering the larger accounts are securing more and more of the reward pool while those of us at the bottom are seeing less and less engagement.
With a small middle class and more options as far as social media outlets I wonder how we are going to figure this out 🧐
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Engagement drops with price unless you work very hard to keep it. Having a little stake and rewarding comments encourages a lot but, it all comes down to the time and effort taken at the end of the day.
It is untenable for all spheres of life if too many people are passive earners. The real world is no different and is why it is falling apart.
Distribution of resources. It doesn't necessarily mean just steem though.
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...because I've sold my first 20 BTC for $5 each back in 2012 :)
and then deleted my FB several times & couldn't find a better place for interacting with like minded...
I forgot my STEEM account for a half an year before starting really using it...
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funny old world this value thing is :D
If people relax a little and do what they enjoy here rather than focusing solely on the coin, they will likely earn more and have more value in what they earn later.
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Depends on what kind of illusion we choose...
It's a cosmic joke, remember? :P~
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A cosmic joke in bad taste :D
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That's why I decided to uplift... because I felt the mood...
not mine not yours... nothing personal... it just is....
STEEM needs proper communication :)
outsmarting is the fiend....
giving you some very rare FRIENDCOINS ;)
I mean, MIND is not a friend in such situations, just the Heart :)
We need it all :)
Thanks for opening up!
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Hi taraz. Auto working like a charm lol. I don't have the energy to spread my wings to other sites. I would rather commit 100 percent to one and not 20 percent to a whole lot of others. Could you imagine building relationships and networks on two other platforms as well. To do the job properly and the amount of effort required I would need a team of people The ones that are on Steem know the value and should know what is required to build a successful account. I hear of others on the clone sites but how much time is being dedicated there when it could be spent here. Having lots of pies is good but if all your pies are mediocre you don't have much.
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Some people are hoping to strike it rich on platforms so they will bounce around from one to another without considering the effort it actually takes. I can't imagine many unless they buy-in por carry a lot of social capital with them being able to do enough on multiple platforms.
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That is the only way it could work. Investing in one or two and making rewards from delegating to projects. It takes too much time to do anything properly. Imagine starting your account again from scratch , I could do it but it wouldn't be fun.
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I am keep steeming on because I enjoy the conversations I have on here.
Financially, I consider it a tremendous upside that my $14k investment might also turn into much more money (though there is also the risk it will go to zero). But I don't have to be on here for that. I could just delegate 100% to bidbots and earn definite returns while I was for price appreciation over the coming years.
The only reason I'm active on here is because I enjoy the conversations.
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I think that there are some very interesting conversations to be a part of and often enough, not of the garden variety to be found in most places. Who knows if the words will actually turn into more but at east it feels like they could.
Not necessarily because if everyone did that it would guarantee it won't turn into much more. There is a point somewhere where of there is too much passivity, nothing of value gets created. How much long-term value is there in vote-selling if that is all there is?
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True, but I've never been one to make decisions based on, "if everyone did that." I know that in practice not everyone does anything, so I just decide for what I will do. Right now I could sell 100% of my votes, but I don't because I want the VP for participating instead. I feel sorry for people who need money so badly (in the short run) that they can't value anything else. They are missing so much that's right there at their fingertips.
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I was saying somewhere the other day that if we think about ourselves and the community and neglect neither, the place would be healthier. There is a space for passive income and plenty of room for activity. If people took a hybrid approach it would work well.
I do too. I have been this person and despite still struggling, there is no value in only chasing and running away from. Time to make a stand.
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Right now i don't know. I won't say earnings because I don't earn much. Prospects? Maybe. But things aren't looking so great at the moment, for the blockchain and me, personally. I will say I'm here because I've grown attach to steem. It is more emotional then anything else. Somehow, someway I am going to make it work for me so I can be in the position to do more and have more impact.
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What makes you think the 'for the blockchain' part?
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Well the price of steem is around $0.7 which is a sharp contrast from what it was earlier this year from what I heard. Yes we've made some changes, hf20, but that hasn't really curbed some of the issues with steem like shitposts making it to the trending section, spamming, number of onboarders, vote selling. Basically things are very much the same
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price is a meaningless metric of blockchain evaluation. The Spam has been reduced by about 80% on the platform and it has added the infrastructure for a lot more options, scaling and decentralized onboarding for the future. Lots has changed.
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If everything you've worked so hard to earn on steem was valued at zero--nothing , would u still be here sir?
Price is an important factor that drives everything on here because we are all here to earn. If the price of steem goes up to 1k we won't even have some of these conversations.
As for spamming, you might be right, however the other factors raised are still prevalent here.
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Yes. I have lost 80% of the value while i have also increased 20% of my holdings already and I am still yet to use 1 steem of it to buy something.
Price is only a factor when selling. People who want to earn now and want to sell now are affected but those who are building for the future, the price now whether 70c or 10 dollars is largely irrelevant. When it gets to 100 or 1000, then that might change for them.
Do you understand the changes that were made and the timeline of what is to come? The changes made are acting as expected in the early days and is the infrastructure that allows for development to be built upon for later.
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The diversity of opinion, freedom of use, the people I have come to know and the relative ease with which one can get involved in the system. (Edit, oh yeah the tokens too )
I have to admit that the draw is less for me than it has been in the past but in my opinion there's still nothing quite like it out there.
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What has changed the draw for you? Is it on or off platform?
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There are less interesting debates I am witness to. I haven't changed my follower list to remove many in argumentative camps so I guess things have cooled. I also feel like there has been a gradual increasing shift away from a concern with ethics, replaced with a more utilitarian approach.
On a community level this looks like more stability, which is arguably good. It might not actually be good though, I don't think it's a given. Obviously on a systematic level not so much stability * cough * HF20 * cough * SMTs.
I'm not sure what to make of it and when I'm unsure I hesitate to act until I know more. That's where my thoughts are.
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I think a lot of the more interesting debates have been unfortunately taken into backrooms. Perhaps this is natural as to speak publicly attracts the public :D There are a lot of emotional people that chime in without much to really say these days other than what they feel. Perhaps in the original crowd there were actually more people who had a philosophy to offer as well as ways to make profit. These days, the utilitarian approach is profit driven alone which makes for very boring discussions.
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It's the interesting people that keep me here. Some have gone, but others have arrived. I also think steem will eventually catch on as one of the big cryptos after many of the other coins are long gone. Steem actually is useful for something.
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Steem does have utility and purpose beyond its use as a mere coin.
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Because...
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See? it makes it all worth it.
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Having fun, is fun. It's hard to give reasons to stay though. I've been battling reasons to leave, trying to silence my conscience. I don't want to turn my back on people, but at the same time, the place is stressing me out, some days that stress is unhealthy. Today I visited a post and was shocked to see a prominent member basically treating content producers like lesser people, not needed, maybe more of a burden to the blockchain. He didn't use those words but that was the vibe I got, when I combine it with a few things he's said in the past.
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I think that there is a lot of FUD about the future going on and while people are trying to find something to commit to, we should be running smaller and systematic trials and the understanding that nothing is permanent. It can be hard here some days but the other days it can be really rewarding so I think just for the ability to help people and potentially help many in the future, it is worth it.
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I agree. We shouldn't be afraid to try and fail. Turning a blind eye to any and all problems many seem to be facing for over a year is tiresome.
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Congratulations @tarazkp!
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Nothing keeps us on Steem or anywhere - only ourselves. :D
although we keep ourselves here perhaps mostly for a potential to Earn.
to some extent or another to socialize, to learn something, to share...
but those things are secondary - let's face it. :)
because can be done in many other places.
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This... the conversation is what keeps me producing on steem. The interaction and knowledge that at least a few people are reading my work keeps me coming back.
Also being part of the change that needs to happen here and the interest of watching or being a part of the developments that make that change. Despite its many problems, steem shows one of around only three use cases for crypto that will drive mass adoption, IMO. I also labor under the hope that I can live off steem one day which is another reason why I continue posting creative work which I really should be submitting elsewhere first.
What are the core thing/s that make you stay @tarazkp?
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