RE: Moving to hive

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Moving to hive

in steem •  7 years ago 

I tried to speak up but, but I was flagged to shit and received a shit ton of threats and harassment messages. I was contacted by someone I know telling me some whales a getting together and are going to flag me and my @buildawhale users to shit.

I realized no one really cared and just said fuck it. No sense taking the brunt of all the attacks if no one will do anything.

Was recently updated by these whales

Yes. You've been monitored and been seen distancing yourself away from the whole haejin and berniesanders mess.

Also the truce post helped.
At the moment, everything is off the radar.
The same whales who were getting ready have now subsided.
I think things are much better now.

My response

I’m glad I am being "monitored", hopefully, it isn’t when I’m going the bathroom.

I haven’t distanced myself I just realize a lot of people don’t give a fuck where steem goes and will rather keep their head in the sand. It isn’t a haejin and Bernie sanders mess, it’s a haejin and steem mess. Too few people understand that and think anyone who questions one person getting 7% of the reward pool posting garbage is a communist.

These "whales" don’t seem to understand how the platform works and how it needs to work to survive.

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And this is where the real dick move lies - threatening you is one thing. But threatening your customers - is on a whole 'nother level - far down the wasteline.

If the whole stake holding community decide to not protect @buildawhale customers either they're not worth protecting or the system is completely broken.

I vote for the former.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

with all due respect - if the system is broken, it's not up to you to fix it with your SP. it's up to the witnesses to be convinced that the system needs fixing and do so in a way that is sustainable and better for everyone.

I agree that vote selling is not ideal but it is a symptom of a system where minnows have no other way to gain any sort of clout and whales can earn a very good income just from sneezing.

I see vote bots as an equalisation measure, and hopefully in future steemit as a platform improves to the level where it is no longer needed.

It's not even up to the witnesses - the witnesses would be the one who activate/approve a fix to the system. Its up to Steemit Inc, or some enterprising developer who understands the code, to actually implement the solution and propose it to the witnesses.

well there you go - that's good to know - as a fairly new user the whole witness model is a bit foreign to me, i just try to make sense of it as best i can. Thanks.

No problem! There's no good explanation of all this anywhere, so no fault on you for not knowing :)

So why doesn't Steemit Inc implement changes that would clearly reflect better on the image of Steemit to the broader crypto space? After all, this platform presently is the face of the steem blockchain; SMTs aren't out yet and Utopian, Dtube, and Dsound are still up and coming.

It's as if the very notion of reward pool abuse has been accepted as a necessary evil and there's nothing we can do about it. It's even implied in the Steem White Paper itself. The founders anticipated the problems that would arise out of allowing self voting, for example. Yet they still allowed it.

On page 6 of 32 it states, "The challenge faced by Steem is deriving an algorithm for scoring individual contributions that most community members consider to be a fair assessment of the subjective value of each contribution."

Clearly, as Bernie and others have pointed out, this challenge is still faced by the platform, nearly two years after its inception. Something has got to give.

Leadership needs to address this sooner rather than later. With every day that passes, more cryptocurrencies pop up - steem is losing the valuation race despite the first mover advantage it has on so many other projects. It will likely continue to do so until Steemit's systemic flaws are addressed, or something far superior shines as the face of the steem blockchain.

Because the CEO is too busy jerking himself off for $6k for running off the genius that produced this entire project:

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Pretty much agree with what you've said. It's been a problem, enhanced by the linear rewards, and is creating fundamental rifts within the community itself.

As for Steemit Inc, I can't speak on behalf of their team, but from what I've seen they've got different priorities. Whether you and I agree with them doesn't necessarily impact those decisions that they made. Currently they're working on blockchain optimizations and SMTs. As witnesses (and by proxy, the witness voters), it's up to us to decide which code to implement once it's developed, but we don't have all that much control over what's actually developed and in which order.

The current situation is basically that those two things are coming down the pipe, and we would be stupid to block them out of any disagreement related to priorities. These two features are both valuable things to the blockchain itself, even if some of us believe that the fundamentals should be addressed first.

I'm personally one that believes fundamentals should be addressed first. You want a rock-solid foundation to build the more advanced features upon, and the more features you add to a system, the harder it is to fix down the road.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

He is one of the worst abusers of the platform. That's why he is getting so upset and threatening. Instead of helping fix the haejin issue. He continues to upvote his comments and his alts comments.

Clutch pic, Nic.

Feedback on my proposed partial solution to this issue is welcomed - generosity rank / 'vote spread' algorithm.

Already been done with Steemfollower. It doesn't seem to be catching on, because nobody wants to change anything around here.

I just looked at steemfollower - but I don't really see how their service is equivalent to the generosity algorithm.

@themarkymark this is so old already. No ill will to you. No more flags.
I ask everyone to settle down with the bad actions. So counter productive.
I'm focusing on a new role and retiring on crypto. May your steem account grow as you do!

It's not old bro... grumpydick is still attacking honest people here for nothing. My bot was just threatened by him this morning. He's backed by no one, just throwing weight around.

Just saying don't get stuck in downward sinking spirals. I don't agree with everyone but I don't despise anyone either. Easy to get drawn in. Effort to remove. Just be yourself!
be positive. Be wise.

Well said.

Just be yourself!
be positive. Be wise.

:D you might not realise people are being themselves, greedy and scared :D

Who da fook is dat guy @haejin?

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this is funn

Fook Flood Mayweather!

this is under appreciated

7% of the reward pool posting garbage

Lmao we've moved the figure to 7% now?

His content is not garbage, it's some of the best content on steem. Miles ahead of anything you, grumpycat or the shit whale has ever posted.

I estimated it to be around 7% when he is not flagging and his VP has recovered. He is somewhere between 4-5% right now and was 5% yesterday.

7%+ is what I predicted originally before all the flagging and optimized voting.

"At the moment, everything is off the radar." LOL. I am glad that their threats are not silencing you.

max alter ego bully.jpe

That is my answer!

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Small time capitalists angry with the larger capitalists for being more successful at cheating/stealing via bots than they are at stealing/cheating using bots.
Would not expect any less from anything created in this society. Small number of greedy assholes try to steal from everyone else. That's capitalism in a nutshell. You are giving your money away to these people by dumping money into a system you know someone is going to leverage to your detriment. Stop investing and just use the place as a blog/youtube replacement and the whales only have themselves to steal from. People are willingly investing in a bot managed pyramid scheme...

well we will have one more dictator in a few months of time, I'm wondering why @abit and the other whales that were running the whales no vote experiment haven't banded up again, although it would be like a state police in some cases I don't see a problem moderating someone that doesn't know moderation and is ok with being top 1 spammer of the year

I really don’t like that SteemIt is forming authoritarian gangs of sorts...

I've voted you (@themarkymark) for witness after reading this post, if you know more witnesses that worth to vote for i would appreciate some suggestions, steemit seems to me a very interesting proyect that i think worth to defend.

Thanks ;)

Omg I’m so lost in the drama what the hell is happening? Plz some explain from the beginning

I'm doing steem just for fun and to kill time. sooooo..

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