Go Home STEEM, You're Drunk

tipu (67) in steem • 7 years ago (edited)

So this just happened:

Error in the data or someone really believes in STEEM?

Edit: the website (https://www.livecoinwatch.com/price/Steem-STEEM) is down so probably just an error.

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7 years ago by tipu (67)

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promotebot (46) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hi, I recieved a 12.65 STU upvote(which is about 8.7 SBD), not a 12.5 SBD like you said in a comment, still about 210%, thanks, but not a x3 like stated in a comment, just wanna see is it a mistake or ...?thanks
(on this post https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@promotebot/earn-a-passive-income-with-masternodes)

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hi:) Can you show me where did you find information, that @tipu upvotes in a way, that after the payout you recive 210% in SBD + STEEM + STEEM POWER?

In need to change it to STU and then answer hundreds of comments daily what are STUs ;)

I always consider the post value to be represented in SBD because of the $ sign.

You're right, technically they are STUs but very few steemians know what they represent.

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promotebot (46) · 7 years ago (edited)

I did not find anywhere that information, but when you see 'Upvote 210% - 300% of your payment ' (on steembottracker) it is normal to expect it to be 210%-300% of your payment(in exact same currency or one that is equal to it, otherwise it is not true), and in a comment it is stated that I recieved 12.5 SBD and that is simply not true, because I recieved ~8.7 SBD upvote.

However, you are not the only bot that does that, most of them do, and ~147%-~210% is still very high, probably highest of all bots, but I needed to check what is real upvote value for some calculations.I like many of your bot features, and full transperency would just make it better and attract more users, and if someone says that ROI is lower than some others(if you change it) you can point out that other bots are not stating a truth by showing false ROI, or you can display both ROI's :)

You don't have to reply to this comment, I just wanted to make sure what is real ROI for some calculations, thanks :)

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quantumsteemit (34) · 7 years ago

I think its more like a click bait !!! thanks for bringing up this question. haven't got any clear answer from anyone... This STU thing is very confusing and deceiving also...!!!

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promotebot (46) · 7 years ago

You can check http://steem.supply/rewards to see how STU is calculated, but basically
1STU=0.5*(1+x)USD, where x is the price of SBD in USD(when 1SBD was equal to 1USD, 1 STU was also equal to 1 USD) :)

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fahimgazi (45) · 7 years ago

@tipu We really have some problem while gating vote form you.

please set a timer so that we can understand that when we can send SBD \STEEM to take Upvote form you .

so I wish you will set a timer for voting, so on that, we can get a vote from you in a more comfortable way .

Thanks and i will wait for answer

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

Holy cow, thats a big comment.

Every time @tipu bounces off the payment because of recovering voting power, you will receive message when voting will be active. Please go to your wallet and if you're using mobile, switch to desktop view to see transfer memo.

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

(open image in new tab if you cant see the whole image)

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fahimgazi (45) · 7 years ago

I have seen that you auto refund the money but i wish you could make the voting more easy for us.

how and when can you give us vote and can you tell me the schedule when you upvote the post and other information about voting ...

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

Voting session starts every day at the same hour, around 21:00 (9:00) GMT +1 so in around 7 hours :)

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

You can also try: @tipu status

voting status: recovering voting power, voting will start in 6 hours

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tipu (67) · 7 years ago

Hi @cardboard! Here is your @tipU service user data:

deposit for sending tips and @tipU upvotes: 3.641 SBD
investment status: 10.5 SP delegated + 88.39 SP invested out of 196622.911 total @tipU SP (share: 0.0503%), reinvest ratio at: 100%
pending payout: 0.0835 SBD + 0.0078 STEEM, next scheduled payout in: 5 hours
voting status: recovering voting power, voting will start in 6 hours
profitability yesterday: 0.931 SBD + 0.095 STEEM per 1k SP delegated or invested, APR: 29.09%

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tipu (67) · 7 years ago

Hi @cardboard! Here is your @tipU service user data:

deposit for sending tips and @tipU upvotes: 3.641 SBD
investment status: 10.5 SP delegated + 88.39 SP invested out of 197327.074 total @tipU SP (share: 0.0501%), reinvest ratio at: 100%
pending payout: 0.0835 SBD + 0.0078 STEEM, next scheduled payout in: 2 hours
voting status: recovering voting power, voting will start in 3 hours
profitability yesterday: 0.931 SBD + 0.095 STEEM per 1k SP delegated or invested, APR: 28.29%

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thunderland (57) · 7 years ago

The return of 210 - 300% is not correct.

Investment: 8 sbd, I got 7.7 SBD

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

OK, so are you referring to buying vote or investing? If buying vote, you should get auto refund. Can you show me link to the post?

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

Yep, seems it was an error on the website.

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triplef (40) · 7 years ago

Thank you @tipu . Your response was extremely swift. I am glad i chose you. Have a great Sunday

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paniczklos (60) · 7 years ago

My STEEM is sober and down . Damn you bitcoin.
There's no "reverse rocket" emoji so 🚀💩

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

Just wondering are we back to the overall crypto downtrend or is this only price correction after recent price increases? And uptrend is over?

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paniczklos (60) · 7 years ago

As always - it will go as "they" want :D so when I made it in March the price followed my last prediction more or less, then there was the bounce, but I think it's way too early for the enthusiasm ( I mean if people on Twitter were already celebrating their Lambos that they will buy next week - it's time to go down :) ) here you can see the three steps down, and the most optimistic way as I imagine it, so consolidation at this level and then up ( because of three smaller steps up). In pessimistic version , we had three steps up so no three steps down :) I know the "threes" method looks plain, simple and stupid - but it works if used properly ( I'm not saying I'm doing it properly ! ) :)
here's a forum link with description

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

@tipu status

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tipu (67) · 7 years ago

Hi @cardboard! Here is your @tipU service user data:

deposit for sending tips and @tipU upvotes: 4.954 SBD
investment status: 10.5 SP delegated + 88.313 SP invested out of 184720.373 total @tipU SP (share: 0.0535%), reinvest ratio at: 100%
pending payout: 0.0005 SBD + 0.0007 STEEM, next scheduled payout in: 24 hours
voting status: recovering voting power, voting will start in 1 hour
profitability yesterday: 1.023 SBD + 0.061 STEEM per 1k SP delegated or invested, APR: 29.87%

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tronsformer (25) · 7 years ago

hello @cardboard yesterday i invest 43 SBD with tipu and now i send 4.5 SBD more to invest so the total investment is 47.5, i want to know that the SBD i send now will add to the old one?

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

Yes :)

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cutemachine (62) · 7 years ago

Hello @cardboard. I did not receive the upvote for https://busy.org/@cutemachine/food-log-11th-of-may-2018.

Can you please look into it? Thanks in advance.

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

Done, sorry for the delay!

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cutemachine (62) · 7 years ago

That was quick. Cheers mate.

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

Yeah, busy day in crypto :)

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cutemachine (62) · 7 years ago

And you also changed the Payout text. Thanks. Guess now it is my turn to update SteemDesk. (Will take a while, but I will do it :)

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

Thanks :) are current steem payouts ignored because of my change?

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cutemachine (62) · 7 years ago

No, quite the opposite. The APR might be too high for tipU because all transfers from tipU to an account are considered a payout. So even a refund from tipU increases the APR, which is obviously wrong.

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

OK, thankfully for APR comparison Im using only users who only delegate :)

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

Sure, will check it out, I was reseting the service which could cause the problem.

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looking (64) · 7 years ago

You are a good thinking post today. @tipu

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militaryphoto (61) · 7 years ago

I have a question. If I add up more sp delegation to you after 7 days, then what happen to curation rewards? Let me say, if I update my sp delegation to you from 40 to 60 on 8th days of my first delegation, then do I need to wait for another 7 days after that to get curation rewards of 60 sp? Or just another 7 days of updated volume of 20 sp?

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

Ah, I don't track every delegation separately so in your example, after delegating 60 SP, your share will increase and by this your curation rewards - so you will receive curation rewards like you've delegated 60 sp since day one. But, the actual curation rewards for @tipU will be increased after next 7 days (payout delay) and by this your's too.

For 40->60 sp that's not a big problem, but if someone would delegate 1 sp, wait 7 days and then delegate 100k sp - that would be a problem :)

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replayphoto (59) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hey @tipu and @cardboard,
I undelegated 20 sp (by this account @replayphoto) and newly delegated 30 sp (by another account @refactory) just before, to see the payouts with no other transactions.
Does this make any difference which I didn't expect? I think I only changed account (and amount) to delegate.

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

Nope, it shouldnt do any difference apart that the second account will receive payouts now. You can check status to confirm the changes :)

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solcross (52) · 7 years ago

@tipu @cardboard. What is the current upvote percent?

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

210% so 1 SBD gives 2.1 SBD upvote

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

@tipu status

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tipu (67) · 7 years ago

Hi @cardboard! Here is your @tipU service user data:

deposit for sending tips and @tipU upvotes: 4.954 SBD
investment status: 10.5 SP delegated + 88.238 SP invested out of 184402.384 total @tipU SP (share: 0.0535%), reinvest ratio at: 100%
pending SBD payout: 0.0935 SBD, pending STEEM payout: 0.0047 STEEM, next scheduled payout in: 9 hours
voting status: recovering voting power, voting will start in 10 hours
profitability yesterday: 1.023 SBD + 0.061 STEEM per 1k SP delegated or invested, APR based on this payout: 30.25%

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shuvomahfuz (43) · 7 years ago

Actually she is drunk. Don't worry, she will be in her regular state after a rest. Lol

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bohluping (47) · 7 years ago

it takes time to incubate

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

@tipu status

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tipu (67) · 7 years ago

Hi @cardboard! Here is your @tipU service user data:

deposit for sending tips and @tipU upvotes: 4.261 SBD
investment status: 10.5 SP delegated + 88.463 SP invested out of 197420.858 total @tipU SP (share: 0.0501%), reinvest ratio at: 100%
pending payout: 0.0844 SBD + 0.0087 STEEM, next scheduled payout in: 19 hours
voting status: recovering voting power, voting will start in 20 hours
profitability yesterday: 0.847 SBD + 0.081 STEEM per 1k SP delegated or invested, APR: 26.18%

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bornprince (52) · 7 years ago (edited)

We must get used we the situation! Todays down ,one or weeks up!!
And this shows how important it is to buy coins from ICOs rather the market.

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chairmanlee (63) · 7 years ago (edited)

Hi! Thank you for your support and program. I have a question.

If my share(7.902%) of the profit(324.514 SBD) is correct, then isn't my profit 25.6 SBD?

Same question for my wife ID @julialee66. Thanks.

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

The share is based on the current moment, but profit is added trough voting session. So if someone delegates/ invests a the end of voting session, your current share changes but most of the profit was added based on the share before this new persons delegation.

So share is basically changing almost all the time and profit is distributed after each vote buy based on share at this given moment. Hope I've managed to explain this :)

I will check it anyway of course :)

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

Heeere we go, here's our missing profit:

tipu send 13.144 SBD to chairmanlee
@tipU payout on demand: 13.144 SBD earned since last payout.

When you made a refund of invested SBD, @tipu automatically sends any pending payout too. Normally it would be added to your scheduled, 24h payout mentioned in your comment.

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chairmanlee (63) · 7 years ago

Great reply. Thank you very much for your kind answer and I wish all the best for you!

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

Also I found a small bug - when the payout on demand is done, total @tipu profit should be reset to 0. It wasn't, so it continue to add up upto 300+ SBD, normally its around 160 SBD now.

So thanks for making me find it :)

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chairmanlee (63) · 7 years ago

It's my pleasure to watch your bot growth!

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rabeel (71) · 7 years ago

@tipu you missed my vote i send you 5.111 sbd. the people who sent bid after me they got vote from you. plz chek

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

;)

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rabeel (71) · 7 years ago

thanks for it

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derikpower (25) · 7 years ago

Uncomplicated article. I learned a lot of interesting and cognitive. I'm screwed up with you, I'll be glad to reciprocal subscription))

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improv (67) · 7 years ago

... What?

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

bots gonna bot ;) by the way, check this out: @tipu status

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tipu (67) · 7 years ago

Hi @cardboard! Here is your @tipU service user data:

deposit for sending tips and @tipU upvotes: 5.906 SBD
investment status: 10.5 SP delegated + 88.199 SP invested out of 183937.316 total @tipU SP (share: 0.0537%), reinvest ratio at: 100%
pending SBD payout: 0.0775 SBD, pending STEEM payout: 0.0047 STEEM, next scheduled payout in: 21 hours
voting status: active, profit will be increased with each vote :)
payout yesterday: 1029.0 SBD + 0.061 STEEM per 1k SP delegated or invested, APR based on this payout: 29205.1%

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

APR -_-

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improv (67) · 7 years ago

How did THAT happen? And... how can I get a 29000% APR?

;P lol

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

Forgot to divide it by 1000 ;)

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improv (67) · 7 years ago

@cardboard Oh, long division, you're the bane of truly tremendous returns.

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

@tipu status

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tipu (67) · 7 years ago

Hi @cardboard! Here is your @tipU service user data:

deposit for sending tips and @tipU upvotes: 4.954 SBD
investment status: 10.5 SP delegated + 88.199 SP invested out of 184010.38 total @tipU SP (share: 0.0536%), reinvest ratio at: 100%
pending SBD payout: 0.0935 SBD, pending STEEM payout: 0.0047 STEEM, next scheduled payout in: 19 hours
voting status: recovering voting power, voting will start in 20 hours
profitability yesterday: 0.931 SBD + 0.061 STEEM per 1k SP delegated or invested, APR based on this payout: 27.47%

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cardboard (61) · 7 years ago

That's better

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eraizel (53) · 7 years ago

@tipU status

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