Whoever wrote this has no idea what they're talking about. Or it's parody. Or it's an attempt to demonstrate/educate how the original 22.2 softfork should have been announced, before anyone adopted the code, even though it has a 12 hour time limit and ... no code. Not sure.
It is impossible to be responsive to the 12-hour demand because there are problems like this:
Accounts that ran the version 0.23 during the Hardfork on Steem and were still in the Top 20 rank, shortly before the Hardfork.
Ok, what about them?
Not only is this an incomplete sentence, which is often OK for bullet points, nothing around this point actually uses it. It's just s sentence floating in the middle of nowhere.
May as well say:
Cats that eat fish.
Ok, what about them?
But let's assume that this bullet point, which is part of three criteria to build a list of 20 accounts to take action against, is something concrete.
So we have a list of 20 accounts someone is mad at, I guess. So what? Mad at them for abandoning Steem? Mad at them for being involved in Hive? I'm still trying to understand what they did that requires a softfork.
For that matter, what does this softfork even propose to do? If it's going to do something reversible, whatever that is, why would it also need an appeal process involving the SPS if it's reversible?
"it's an attempt to demonstrate/educate how the original 22.2 softfork should have been announced, before anyone adopted the code".
I guess you are right on this ;)
"So what? Mad at them for abandoning Steem? Mad at them for being involved in Hive? "
But not on this. Nobody here care about Hive nor about people abandoning Steem, since they already had a wrong mind, better they leave and do what they want as they want. We even wish them good luck :)
Nobody here care about Hive nor about people abandoning Steem, since they already had a wrong mind, better they leave and do what they want as they want. We even wish them good luck :)
You ⬆️, and them ⬇️.
Moreover, different members from the forked Blockchain are still actively spamming and milking the Steem ecosystem. Hostile actions, such as downvoting, against Steem users with different opinions were taken by the the forked Blockchain.
As for now, there is no clear declaration from the leadership or accounts of the forked Blockchain that it is not the goal to harm the Steem Blockchain and community. The hostile attacks may never stop.
Sounds like you're not sure what your code does, and that someone here is lying about intent. It also sounds like you don't actually like any of the things the blockchain you are charged with securing and upholding does. The ability to earn (milk) is countered by the ability to downvote. The concern that people you don't like are able to earn and that you aren't simply able to downvote them generally tells me that you have no clue how your chain works, and that you'd likely be better served by coming up with a team of core code developers to simply change then entire reward system rather than go back on every word you've said in the brief time you've existed by trying to tag individual accounts ineffectually.
Unfortunately, you did not read the entire sentence. It failed to rise above and demonstrate the proper deploy process because we are already seeing witnesses signal 0.22.888 without code being published. So sad.
You're trying to compare two completely different courses of action. Such deliberate conflation and equivocation signal either laziness or malice on your part.
Yeah, the post was so poorly written I didn't know what the idea is/was or if I was missing something.
I still have no idea if this is just "signaling".
But who brought undiscussed Softforks and false signals to the chain. Regardless of whether or not you think it is reasonable. A violation of trust took place and now it seems to be a reoccuring theme.
It's amazing to me, even now after all this, that people still think soft fork 0.22.2 was unjustified.
Have you been paying attention at all or are you blinded by your own bias? Justin Sun, from day 1, was a massive threat to Steem. The ridiculous AMA, the posts about moving everything to Tron, the lack of communication of intentions, the activities on Tron voting community tokens that same week... when sf22.2 was deployed, the voters DID respond. They voted out Tim because they supported the actions. Witnesses wrote their own posts explaining their actions and asking people to decide with their vote while also asking Justin to communicate. He responded THE SAME DAY without any malice or concern in his post, happy to have a town hall weeks later. Turns out he only wanted those weeks so he could coordinate taking over the chain completely using exchange funds.
Whatsup, at some point I hope you realize you're on the wrong side of history if you support what Justin did to Steem and still think those who deployed sf22.2 or moved to Hive were doing anything other than protecting the original value Steem created: the community.
This is yet another stunningly stupid move that took place on Steem. The escalation of emotionally driven actions seems to know no bounds.
It was petty, vengeful and dangerous. In addition, these very witnesses had vowed not to tamper with anyone's stake. (Isn't it beyond ridiculous that even had to be said)
If you take the back story out and look at the situation without bias, it is literally the same code, prohibiting the same actions, deployed on different actors.
I was told by our expert witnesses, some of the best in Graphene, that it was fully appropriate for the top witnesses to drop any code and others can choose whether or not to adopt it.
Using your version of events if Justin was a threat to Steem, prior to Hive it would also be fair to say that Steem witnesses were a threat to Steem/Justin's version after Hive. It's either "just code" and can be manipulated through the unemotional, non-judgemental "code is law" view. Or it is a story of who is right and wrong, which will always has two sides and is based on perspective.
It is clear that the current deployment of DPOS has massive security issues, recent history shows us getting a handful of people to agree to drop code turns out to be much easier than Dan had originally thought.
Based on results: to invest in a DPOS system one first determine if the major stakeholders are "good or bad" and if they only need to control 20% to have a majority and be a threat seems like it would take constant diligence in a shifting market space to know if one's investment is safe.
With all that being said, yes this was a dick move and does seem to validate that TRON MAN BAD, but having to determine what the motives/values of other stakeholders are was never why I wanted to get into crypto.
Whoever wrote this has no idea what they're talking about. Or it's parody. Or it's an attempt to demonstrate/educate how the original 22.2 softfork should have been announced, before anyone adopted the code, even though it has a 12 hour time limit and ... no code. Not sure.
It is impossible to be responsive to the 12-hour demand because there are problems like this:
Ok, what about them?
Not only is this an incomplete sentence, which is often OK for bullet points, nothing around this point actually uses it. It's just s sentence floating in the middle of nowhere.
May as well say:
Ok, what about them?
But let's assume that this bullet point, which is part of three criteria to build a list of 20 accounts to take action against, is something concrete.
So we have a list of 20 accounts someone is mad at, I guess. So what? Mad at them for abandoning Steem? Mad at them for being involved in Hive? I'm still trying to understand what they did that requires a softfork.
For that matter, what does this softfork even propose to do? If it's going to do something reversible, whatever that is, why would it also need an appeal process involving the SPS if it's reversible?
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"it's an attempt to demonstrate/educate how the original 22.2 softfork should have been announced, before anyone adopted the code".
I guess you are right on this ;)
"So what? Mad at them for abandoning Steem? Mad at them for being involved in Hive? "
But not on this. Nobody here care about Hive nor about people abandoning Steem, since they already had a wrong mind, better they leave and do what they want as they want. We even wish them good luck :)
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You ⬆️, and them ⬇️.
Sounds like you're not sure what your code does, and that someone here is lying about intent. It also sounds like you don't actually like any of the things the blockchain you are charged with securing and upholding does. The ability to earn (milk) is countered by the ability to downvote. The concern that people you don't like are able to earn and that you aren't simply able to downvote them generally tells me that you have no clue how your chain works, and that you'd likely be better served by coming up with a team of core code developers to simply change then entire reward system rather than go back on every word you've said in the brief time you've existed by trying to tag individual accounts ineffectually.
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Run backup servers you cheap fucks
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Unfortunately, you did not read the entire sentence. It failed to rise above and demonstrate the proper deploy process because we are already seeing witnesses signal 0.22.888 without code being published. So sad.
So are we playing 20 questions? This is stupid.
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So what's up with freezing funts then?
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You're trying to compare two completely different courses of action. Such deliberate conflation and equivocation signal either laziness or malice on your part.
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@whatsup, any thoughts?
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Yeah, the post was so poorly written I didn't know what the idea is/was or if I was missing something.
I still have no idea if this is just "signaling".
But who brought undiscussed Softforks and false signals to the chain. Regardless of whether or not you think it is reasonable. A violation of trust took place and now it seems to be a reoccuring theme.
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LOL my god woman.. when will you wake the fuck up?
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It's amazing to me, even now after all this, that people still think soft fork 0.22.2 was unjustified.
Have you been paying attention at all or are you blinded by your own bias? Justin Sun, from day 1, was a massive threat to Steem. The ridiculous AMA, the posts about moving everything to Tron, the lack of communication of intentions, the activities on Tron voting community tokens that same week... when sf22.2 was deployed, the voters DID respond. They voted out Tim because they supported the actions. Witnesses wrote their own posts explaining their actions and asking people to decide with their vote while also asking Justin to communicate. He responded THE SAME DAY without any malice or concern in his post, happy to have a town hall weeks later. Turns out he only wanted those weeks so he could coordinate taking over the chain completely using exchange funds.
Whatsup, at some point I hope you realize you're on the wrong side of history if you support what Justin did to Steem and still think those who deployed sf22.2 or moved to Hive were doing anything other than protecting the original value Steem created: the community.
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Hi Luke,
This is yet another stunningly stupid move that took place on Steem. The escalation of emotionally driven actions seems to know no bounds.
It was petty, vengeful and dangerous. In addition, these very witnesses had vowed not to tamper with anyone's stake. (Isn't it beyond ridiculous that even had to be said)
If you take the back story out and look at the situation without bias, it is literally the same code, prohibiting the same actions, deployed on different actors.
I was told by our expert witnesses, some of the best in Graphene, that it was fully appropriate for the top witnesses to drop any code and others can choose whether or not to adopt it.
Using your version of events if Justin was a threat to Steem, prior to Hive it would also be fair to say that Steem witnesses were a threat to Steem/Justin's version after Hive. It's either "just code" and can be manipulated through the unemotional, non-judgemental "code is law" view. Or it is a story of who is right and wrong, which will always has two sides and is based on perspective.
It is clear that the current deployment of DPOS has massive security issues, recent history shows us getting a handful of people to agree to drop code turns out to be much easier than Dan had originally thought.
Based on results: to invest in a DPOS system one first determine if the major stakeholders are "good or bad" and if they only need to control 20% to have a majority and be a threat seems like it would take constant diligence in a shifting market space to know if one's investment is safe.
With all that being said, yes this was a dick move and does seem to validate that TRON MAN BAD, but having to determine what the motives/values of other stakeholders are was never why I wanted to get into crypto.
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You should probably stop posting for a while now. Everything you said in these last few weeks has been
Would be probably smart if you pulled an Exyle and gone silent for a while.
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Do you understand now that there's no middle ground in a revolution?
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