Steemcleaner Report for January 14, 2018 Part 2

in steemcleaners •  7 years ago 



Continued from: Steemcleaner Report for January 14, 2018


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  ·  7 years ago (edited)

When one visits a website(a news agency for example), and copy news to post on steemit, citing the website of course.
Is that plagiarism?

It's not plagiarism but it is copy/paste. Without adding anything original (your thoughts or comments)to it we consider it spam. It's something anyone can do hundreds or thousands of times a day and doesn't have any value.

Also we don't like to see the entire article copied. It doesn't give the reader any reason to visit the site and support the original writer.

Thank you for responding with simple and straight to the point English. Now, I will:
stop copying everything
start adding my view/opinion/comment

thanks for useful and informative job

You are making a great article
I wish I could become as successful as you and get a voice for me


Repeating the same comments could be seen as spam. Try writing a relevant comment even if it isn't in English. It will be appreciated more.

Your Reputation Could be a Tasty Snack with the Wrong Comment!

Thank You! ⚜

@steemcleaners
Please upvote 1% on this comment
If you do that i well be happy

Spamming comments is frowned upon by the community.

Comment spam is currently defined by @steemcleaners as:

  • 10 or more generic comments per day that are not in response to a question posed by the post or comment. “Thanks”, “Great Post!”, “Informative Post” , “Great Photo!”, “Good”, “Like”, “Nice”, “Wow”, “Cute”, “Follow me”, etc.

  • Commenting on old posts to hide self up-votes or a voting trail.

  • Copy/Paste comments that serve no purpose or the purpose is self promotion (including copying and pasting similar comments in rotating way).

  • Comments that inform the contributor that they have been up upvoted, resteemed, or flagged when the curator does not actually upvote, resteem, or flag the post.

  • Fishing/farming votes by using multiple accounts to comment on posts by known comment curators.

  • Unsolicited and off topic referral links.

Continued comment spamming may result in action from the cheetah bot.

More Info: Abuse Guide - 2017.

Thank you for these tips :)

Spamming comments is frowned upon by the community.

Comment spam is currently defined by @steemcleaners as:

  • 10 or more generic comments per day that are not in response to a question posed by the post or comment. “Thanks”, “Great Post!”, “Informative Post” , “Great Photo!”, “Good”, “Like”, “Nice”, “Wow”, “Cute”, “Follow me”, etc.

  • Commenting on old posts to hide self up-votes or a voting trail.

  • Copy/Paste comments that serve no purpose or the purpose is self promotion (including copying and pasting similar comments in rotating way).

  • Comments that inform the contributor that they have been up upvoted, resteemed, or flagged when the curator does not actually upvote, resteem, or flag the post.

  • Fishing/farming votes by using multiple accounts to comment on posts by known comment curators.

  • Unsolicited and off topic referral links.

Continued comment spamming may result in action from the cheetah bot.

More Info: Abuse Guide - 2017.

Thank you for these tips :)

Good

Leaving short generic comments such as "thanks", "thank you", "nice", or "nice post" could be mistaken for spam. Try telling the author why you are thanking them or what you like about the post.

Your Reputation Could be a Tasty Snack with the Wrong Comment!

Thank You! ⚜

I hate spam as much as the next person. But here, you've admitted to censoring what people say and how they say it.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Where did I censor them? I am not flagging them. I'm suggesting they expand on what they say before they get flagged by other members of the community. I'm giving them a link to a post with tips on how to avoid getting flagged.

I seriously don't get why others think it is better to let the community just flag these comments than providing some feedback to the person commenting.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Unfortunately, the "Your Reputation Could be a Tasty Snack with the Wrong Comment!" line is a THREAT. One minute you're trying to make steemit a better place, the next you're telling people what to say or not say or how to say it...OR ELSE. That's called censorship. Anyone should be free to say "Thanks!" or "Nice post" if that's what they think or feel like saying. It doesn't matter if an individual or group of individuals dislike that simple comment and upvote or flag it - that's freedom of expression, too. However, when you establish a system that threatens to punish certain kinds of speech, that's CENSORSHIP. Does this make sense to you? Have I missed something?

It's a post title - and it is accurate. If someone thinks their comment is spam they can and do flag them for it. Some whales don't even care there is a slider and they will just flag a 25 reputation account to 10 or less.

When they first introduced the reputation system I spent quite a bit of time trying to help users recover from getting flagged by whales like @dan, @sneak, and others.

I still do on run across those who have had their reputation wrecked because they said something generic or posted in the wrong tag.

The only part of @spaminator that is automated is the actual flagging. All of the research is done by me. I spend hours looking at queries and then looking at the actual accounts before I add them to a list to be flagged. I still review the accounts being flagged daily.

All of the comments left by @spaminator are also done so by a human. Some days we have more time to write custom comments, sometimes the comments are more copy & paste.

From the day we formed an actual group we have posted about helping the 'human' element stop what the community sees as spam by replying to their comments and giving them helpful advice as well as warning them about what could happen if the wrong person reads their comment.

Overall the feedback from those getting comments has been positive. Most are oblivious to the fact that I do flag the automated comment/farms or the garden variety human run ones that haven't progressed to automation yet.

I'll think about creating a new account for commenting but the message is still going to be the same no matter how it is worded. From the reports I receive for comment spam I see that there are a number of members in our community that are more and more intolerant of what they perceive as spam. Some flag first and just don't care if that was the only time someone said "Nice post" in the last week.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

I see. Your work sounds genuinely good. Thanks for putting in the thought and care and effort to make it happen. However, to beat a dead horse, it's still too easy to misinterpret that phrase as a direct threat (as I did) instead of as a warning about the potential actions of others. I hope there's some way to improve on it.

Now that @spaminator has a delegation I can't upvote at all with that account. I may create a new one for commenting. I'll see what I can do.

Perhaps the reputation system needs some refinement, too.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

I started @spaminator. I'm also a founding member of @steemcleaners. Trying to separate the initiatives a bit and provide more feedback to 'human' commenters.

Overall, I support the work and goals of the @spaminator project. I'm just suspicious of over-regulation of free speech in a decentralized system like this.

This is a good report. please what further effort is being made to bring defaulters to correction?

Wonderful service .. keep up the Good job

Interesting postings and certainly many who like.
Hopefully the next post is more interesting and useful.

Looks amazing man your post very nice I like it
Thank you for sharing bro so please vote later 👏👍👆

Good post friends.

What did you like about it? Generic comments could be seen as spam.

Your Reputation Could be a Tasty Snack with the Wrong Comment!

Thank You! ⚜

@rizkisitompul (46) Spam posts like this risk getting flagged. (I looked at your other comments).

Before you make another comment, please read some of the many excellent steemit guides. Here are some examples:

https://steemit.com/steemit/@miti/a-complete-guide-for-newcomers-and-minnows-to-avoid-a-possible-spam-and-to-write-good-comments

https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@ebitularmbert/steemit-s-2017-five-5-bad-habits-you-should-avoid-in-2018-to-save-your-reputation

Finally, if you hope to do more than just make friends, that is, if you want to earn money, I recommend you read this:

https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@okusarobert/is-your-reputation-still-at-25-or-thereabout-do-you-have-only-few-followers-this-post-will-help-them-grow

I encouarage you and all beginners to keep writing quality blogs for pleasure. You will earn nothing for a long time, but eventually your followers will come. A high quality comment on a popular blog may get others looking at what else you wrote. They want to see high quality interesting blogs, not short things with little substance.

A high quality comment on a newbies blog will almost definitely earn you a follower.

Comments like the one you made are seen for what they are - an attempt to draw attention to yourself. You were too lazy to even read the blog, let alone think of something interesting to say. You will likely be flagged if you keep doing that.

I hate Spam and not genuine content. It's hard to understand why people do do not talk what they think? And meaningless comments everywhere, almost under each post...

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While I appreciate what you do here as far as plagiarism and spamming. I worked at the University of Florida and participated in this scientific project. I named my sources and also wrote my own verbiage. It is important to me to list the facts In order and content. This method of writing is taught at most Universities. Please let me know how to write a scientific post without using statistics and naming the original author.
Thank you.

if I completely remove so-called plagiarism (i just translate old history...) from my post, can downvote be reviewed or permanent? Why don't do the same kind of warning before doing harm? Every world and though can be called copy/paste "nothing new under the moon"...