Witness update #3 –Announcing 2 Exciting New Steemit Tools

in steemdev •  6 years ago  (edited)

Empowering Curators, Community Leaders, and Minnows. Valuing engagement and positive interactions.

In this update:

New Tool Announcement – Visualise the Internal STEEM SBD Exchange.

New Tool Announcement – Master Exclusion/Blacklist checker

Check in with @paulag and integrating her existing business to the STEEM platform.

steemit witness @steemcommunity

Welcome to the 4th post from the @steemcommunity witness.

If you are visiting our page for the first time and would like to find out more about our project, please take a look at our initial contribution:

Introducing @steemcommunity - A Witness Project by @abh12345 and @paulag

We would like to begin by sincerely thanking everyone for the early support that we have had via comments and votes for our witness.

Thank you!


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Announcement - Visualize the Internal STEEM SBD Exchange


The internal exchange on Steemit allows you exchange STEEM for SBD and SBD for STEEM at no cost. That's right, its free to use. However the information provided is limited, making it difficult for informed decisions to be made.

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To help you make a better decision when trading STEEM and SBD we have created an interactive tool so you can visualize the market with more detail.

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ACCESS Steemit Internal Market Visualization NOW

Announcement - Master Exclusion/Blacklist checker


There are many people working behind the scenes on the STEEM blockchain to keep it free from spam, plagiarism, cheaters, scammers & phishers. Some of these have made their blacklists available.

We have combined the blacklist from @msp @cheetah @steemclearners and @buildawhale to create a master blacklist file.

However our list is not just a blacklist, it is an exclusion list for @steemcommunity and any support we will be offering will not be available to these accounts.

In addition to the blacklists, @paulag searches the data for trends which quickly identify possible bot activity, multiple account holders, service accounts, resteem accounts, as well as Spam accounts and circle jerks. All off these accounts are added to her exclusion list and included with our Master Blacklist/ Exclusion list.

You are free to search the list, and if you feel you are wrongly outcast then you can contact the blacklist provider. Please contact @paulag on steemit for the exclusion list.

ACCESS Steemcommunity Master Exclusion list NOW

*if you have a blacklist or even a bad behavior list and would like to share it with us, please contact @paulag

Over the next few weeks we will be improving on these tools and stay tuned because we may have even more!

Check in with @paulag


I have been looking at ways to integrate my existing online Excel and Power BI teaching business with Steemit. Recently I set up my brand with an account on Steemit @theexcelclub and I have uploaded a full course.

The course is Basic Excel for Basic bookkeeping and is suitable for anyone that needs to learn the basic of Excel or how to carry out basic bookkeeping in Excel. This course is highly popular on my own site and I would encourage you to share it with anyone you know that may be just starting their career in an office. It is hosted on DLive so anyone with a social media profile can interact with the videos without the need for a Steemit account.

You can find the first lesson here

On Tuesday 19th June I will be hosting a webinar on DLive. In this webinar you will learn how to use Excel to gather your income information from the Steemit blockchain. This is a trial webinar and if successful I will be inviting my non-Steemit Excel following to a webinar the following week.

Sounds Interesting - tell me more?


Thanks again for your kind support and for your time today,

Asher and Paula.

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Useful links


Steemitguide: What is a Exactly is a STEEM Witness and why every User should Vote

Seriously, what is a STEEM witness? Why should I care? How do I become one? (Answer)

Steemcommunity Discord: https://discord.gg/Ycb4PTU


(Including #blockchainbi and #culturevulture)

Where to vote: https://steemit.com/~witnesses


How to vote for @steemcommunity






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Why is @spl on your blacklist "exclusion" list?


This explains how our Communities support completely died. Can you guys please right this horrendous wrong ... like, now?


And @paulag, please put checks in place so you guys don't go around killing off the few projects that actually produce for the Steem Community.

We carefully manually curated a whitelist of over 1,100 players from nearly 10k applicants and we make damn sure we don't make mistakes with large Communities. I would expect the same from any other "Community" project.

How on Earth an 1,100 Steem Member Community got on this list is the question.



Thanks!

P.S. Pardon my tude, but it's hard enough to make a project succeed without this kind of blackballing going on.

It’s particularly troubling when a community like the @spl is lumped into this:

There are many people working behind the scenes on the STEEM blockchain to keep it free from spam, plagiarism, cheaters, scammers & phishers. Some of these have made their blacklists available.

It doesn’t matter if you try to qualify it by claiming that “multiple account holders” are also necessarily bad and worthy of blacklisting. And it’s extremely hypocritical to make this association, given that this @steemcommunity account is itself an evil duplicate worthy of blacklisting, if we used her logic.

I have already used the information presented here to make a decision. And I have decided that this blacklist is worthless since the creator(s) can’t be bothered with making informed/rational judgments on what bad actors are or how they categorize these lists and tie communities in with spammers and scammers.

Unless these horrid mistakes/decisions are evaluated and corrected, I will simply add @steemcommunity and associated “duplicate” accounts to my personal blacklist. Others can curate based on that data if they choose.

In fact...I will work on my own blacklist of shitbags. I will release it to the public soon.

I was supporting @steemcommunity as a witness...That is over as of now. I was supporting @paulag and @abh12345. I have unfollowed both. I usually only flag plagiarists, scammers and the like. Today you have joined that club. Anyone who puts out this kind of obvious drivel without checking how it worked is not fit to run for witness. Unfortunately, @abh12345 is lumped in with this. I hope someone comes to their senses and issues a retraction or correction of this flawed piece of work.

Same for me !!!

This is dumb.. been here.. done my time and put in work only to be "blacklisted" by a bot and for what reason.. I can only guess.. and it's probably something just plain dumb.

What a joke! I just found myself on that list as well

well said - I am also a bad boy it seems

Hahhaa! Are they insane ? I know that I am a „bad“ girl without their ridiculous list

think they posted this by mistake a bit early....lol

Oh well ! Whatever :)

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

In addition to the blacklists, @paulag searches the data for trends which quickly identify possible bot activity, multiple account holders, service accounts, resteem accounts, as well as Spam accounts and circle jerks. All off these accounts are added to her exclusion list and included with our Master Blacklist/ Exclusion list.

I'm proud to say I also made it to the list as a paulag exclusion, and so has Schattenjaeger and a certain Ats-david.

Could somebody put a stop to this comic duo, please?

Be proud - I discovered I am also on their black list - surprised a bit but who care about that "steemcommunity" account - bad behaviour is compiling nonsense and this is what I see here.

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

I'm proud to say I also made it on the list as a paulag exclusion (sounds wonderful), which indicates to me both it and she are full of shit. Could somebody put a stop to this comic duo, please?

Repeated because I mis-placed it the first time. Sorry about that.

Ya. By removing their witness votes from these jokers.

You have accounts like @nextgencrypto and @timcliff and @ned and even @paulag on this "exclusion list". Maybe you're damaging your own credibility by having 95k Steemit accounts on an evidently arbitrary shit-list.

I’m wondering if she even checks on what her bot is adding to her “list.”

Nobody this sloppy/careless/reckless gets my witness vote, that's for sure.

@paulag I suggest you take a long hard look at whatever code you're using to add pretty much every active account on Steemit to your shit-list, because this post is public, your list is public, and the community will take a giant shit on you.

So ya, I flagged this post for abuse. Because that's all it is.

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But she's an Excel expert!

Eagerly awaiting your shit list. In Excel, of course.

Good that this list is so accurate:

I wondered why most accounts have been added here but glad that your witness partner is there :))

It's because she is an Excel expert.

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

99% of whole steemit is on your blacklist... oldies and reputable members including...
let me guess, every1 who diddnt vote for your witness is on this list? :)))

WTH - I am on the black list as @paulag exclusion - are you kidding me - why? And you add @spl to the black list - seem at least a strange list if I may so but we have tons of idiots out here so one has to move on ignoring some people that claim to do sth for community ..........

Have you not consider using Whitelist instead of Blacklist? The blacklist is a good feature but will only slow down malicious users but not totally prevent them. Tomorrow, they will create a new account do the same task over again and the tool will only discover them after days of havoc.

In information security, I build whitelist to allow those approved users so we can maintain a sanitize community. This may not be applicable to steemit community just throwing some ideas.

Cheers to you SteemCommunity.

We do have a bigger plan which would include a whitelist. Its nuts how quick new accounts are being created with malicious intent and so hard to catch all of them. One step at a time, we will get there :-)

Cheers to you dear.

What's plan

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@paulag, your on your own blacklist!

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Somebody told me that you put me on a black list ?!?! Could you explain why ????

Hey @mammasitta

Last month we produced a list that contained many of our supporters, including ourselves.

The goal was to at some point in the future hold a list of each person's main account. After an update to the list, if you or anyone had multiple accounts, then it would make you appear on the list. We didn't have the complete process in place for getting removed, other than seeing your accounts there and saying 'hey, this is my main account, the others are for x y z.

Clearly there are some flaws in this approach, as for example, people create accounts for others.

After some 'strong' feedback, we took the list down. The list was not 'active', it was not use to downvote/ignore anyone, and it no longer exists. We will let someone else delve into Steemit's proposed 'Oracles' and see if they can learn from our mistakes.

I hope that the work I/we have done in the past year is considered when deciding if we are doing an OK job.

My apologies for any frustration/anger caused.

Thank you so much for the new tools @steemcommunity.

I wish there was some way I could block people on the exclusion list from interacting with my account but I'm assuming that's not possible. Is that correct?

Being able to see the SBD/Steem relationship over time will help me make better powering up decisions. For the last couple of months I've just been waiting for the rate to get back to 1:1 which, of course, it hasn't.

Thanks for all you do here! 😊

Are you sure? They put me on their blacklist, me, the Most Righteous Steemian Ever.

Is this reply to me @ocrdu. In which case, in answer to your question, no I'm not sure given some of the comments in this thread.

and, I've just checked and both @abh12345 and @paulag are on the exclusion list and so am I. 😂

In fact, as I skimmed through I noticed a number of upstanding Steemians I'm in regular contact with that are on the list.

So, obviously something is a little off! 😁

No doubt it will get sorted. If it doesn't I'm not too bothered since I only appear on the exclusion list and on none of the others.

And thank you for your support Gill :)

The best approach is to ignore accounts - they can't be stopped from interacting, but you can make them invisible to you :)

The rate is getting better, slowly. I'm not sure if it will get to 1:1 though, as I expect (but could be totally wrong) SBD to fall to $1, and STEEM to range around this price before starting a new upward trend. Last time though, SBD led the way, and so it could be worth keeping some in case history repeats itself.

Cheers!

I'm not sure about getting better @abh12345. It seems to have been stuck around 0.77 for a while now.

Ah Hang on. Isn't there a new tool to check that assumption? 😂

. . . I'm a bit confused though. I just checked the tool and is says the last exchange rate was 1.3 but in terms of what I'd get it's actually 0.77 so the tool is obviously not showing me what I thought it was.

I though it was showing how much Steem my SBD would buy me over time. What it is actually showing?

I think your'e right about the spam accounts lessening. I seem to be getting fewer following me but then that maybe one of the positive aspects of the Steem price dropping I suppose. 😊

I power a bit up every day and have watched the exchange rate come down/closer over the past month or so - that's my tool :)

the .77 or 1.29, depending on how you look at it is the live rate, not an 'over time' period. I think that's what you are asking?

Low price - less spammers, we like that :D

No. The 'over time' period I was referring to was the whole graph from left to right. Where the confusion is is how I read the graph the rate should be 1.29 but in actual fact is it only 0.77.

i don't understand where you get 1.29 from. If I could get 1.29 Steem for 1 SBD I would happily be powering up! 😁

Hope that's clearer @abh12345!

its .77 steem for 1 SBD, and 1.29 SBD for 1 STEEM :)

OK. It took me a while but now I get it @abh12345. Thank you!

I only ever powerup so I'm only interested, right now, in how much Steem I can get for my SBD.

Would it be possible to create a similar graph that showed that relationship over time as well?

Well, obviously, it's possible but is it quite easy to do? Is it just a question of reversing the numbers?

I'd love to see what that looks like.

And . . . I think I'll go back to doing what you're doing and power up a little SBD each day. I always used to do that, but once the exchange rate dropped I stopped.

Maybe Paula's tool will help? :)

http://steemcommunity.org/steemit-internal-market-visualization/

If you power up a little each day, you'll never win big or miss out big. SBD could go to $1 or $5 tomorrow, but as long as you are doing it bit by bit then the swings are not important :)

haha I have been reading the conversation with you and asher and I better step in to clear things up. I have just updated the lables on the charts. is priced STEEM/SBD so 1 steem will costs you 1.28 sbd at the moment. its the price of 1 STEEM.

Is it possible to add the chart the other way too @paulag?

I'm most interested in the price the other way because I only power up. So I'd love to see SBD to Steem. 😊

I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that follows it that way round more than the other way. Or maybe other people are able to turn the other one around in their heads. 😂

I can, will do it during the week :-)

No probs if you don't find the time @paulag. I know you've got a lot on your plate at the moment. 😊

All three of the announcements for new tools, including the contribution to Steemit list you're putting together are all very useful. Thank you.

I use Firefox and Safari for different things and I've discovered that the lists you've created does not scroll at all in Firefox, while it's fine in Safari. I haven't tried it in Chrome. I don't have a problem using Safari, but I thought I'd let you know that it doesn't scroll in Firefox in the event you were able to make any changes that might help that. I have no idea who uses Firefox, so there's that to consider, too.

I was not aware of issues with Firefox. I am using PowerBI for the reports and will have to see what workaround I can do. Its one of the limitations of third party programs :-(

Yeah. Always going to be something, isn't it? :) Well, as I said, no worries. Just bringing it to your attention to do with as you see fit. I could be the only one who actually uses FireFox for Steemit, and since Safari works, I can look at the lists there. :)

I like the price tracker. It would help to indicate the units on the Steem price tracker in the title or axes and definitely in the tooltips. I think the numbers are SBD/STEEM. However, this isn't really clear from looking at the graphs.

the number are STEEM/SBD. I just updated the chart titles to be clear. So it is shows how much 1 steem will costs you in SBD.

I believe it should be SBD/STEEM. Right now the internal market tool is showing that it costs around 1.29 SBD to buy 1 steem and they indicate that using SBD/STEEM. Your tool says it costs 1.29 STEEM to buy 1 SBD, but that can't be right because 1 STEEM is worth more than 1 SBD. So if your tool is showing how much 1 steem will cost in SBD, the units should be: SBD/STEEM. I read the / as PER: SBD PER STEEM.

Glad to see more updates from this account. I’m hoping more will see what I do with your witness and give it a vote!

That is one massive exclusion list. Something I’ve been looking for it. One of community I’m in acquire a rather short but unknown reason why master blacklist. Some of the names are on your list and many are not. Without fully understanding why these people where included on that list it would be unfair to bring their names forward now.

I will bring that list forward to that community and if we have any future names to add with reason I’ll be happy to share it.

we can talk on discord about the master exclusion list, yes it would be unfair to publish names now. One thing I must say, if people find they are on my exclusion list, they can talk to me to see why and apply to be removed. there are 44K accounts on my list, is the biggest list of all provided and is set to grow as I ramp up my efforts to improve it.

Thank you for your comment and support :-)

Glad to have one, central naughty list. That market interface looks incredible. Going to go play around with it now :)

Maybe not that glad, because you are on the list:

Your also on that blacklist @mattclarke!

Wow. Didn't even think to check for myself. Thanks, I'll have to take a closer look, although reading some of the comments, it seems the 'nice' bar may have been set a little high.
I have a lot of time for @paulag and I'm sure she'll be revisiting some of the parameters, too.

I have taken the tool down @mattclarke, I ran an update on the query today and published to early. There has been a little drama over it but mistakes happen ( if I was a bot it probably wouldn't of happened lol)

if I was a bot it probably wouldn't of happened

"NO" (to quote you) ... If you were a responsible person willing to discuss the "mistake" you made and fix it ... it never would have happened.

But at that time, when I brought up your, what is now referred to as a "mistake" ...

you seemed to be indicating that everything was working just as you planned



... is that not the case?

At that time, before you got nuked, you said it was due to our account being "bots", which it's not.

When you were called out on that, you then said it was due to "duplicate" accounts (which every Community account is).

NOW ... for some odd reason ... it's a "mistake".

Anyway, I didn't want to let you just walk away free and clear with a revisionist history apology ... like all the others who pull shit like this on this platform for money.

@paulag when you decided to go public with your ridiculous shame tool, you became responsible for the information you spewed. Trying to hide behind 'mistakes happen' is a further show of irresponsible and immature actions - the same immaturity and irresponsibility that you showed when you published this thing in the first place.

I make it a habit never to criticise somebody while they're doing something I can't.

It wasn't my intention to criticize, just thought it was was quite a damaging list to have posted without running any checks.

Yes, she's certainly copped some flak for it.
It might be justified, I just don't feel qualified to hurl any criticisms myself :)

thank you @mattclarke - glad you like it. Really hope it comes to use for people

These are really useful tools, nice additions, and there's something to appeal to my sense of irony too....proudly powered by WordPress!

haha Indeed :)

A bit like using busy.org I guess, expect we didn't get the tags right (although not that I would have mattered!)

Great tools, a bit of a pain on the blacklist one for having to refresh because it takes you out, (well at least me) of the fullscreen mode, but I can't see my self using it to frequently other than to check myself a couple of community accounts I belong to and to check the I've been blacklisted whiners out, (just to see if they are being over dramatic, drama seems to be a thing lately).

The financial tool is going to be of use one of theses days for me, I still have yet to even look at withdrawals from steemit, or how to do it. It will either still be here when I need it or not. It's not like it cost me anything to sign up.

Thank you @bashadow. Not sure if this reply will be hidden, but thanks for your support :)

Shit happens. It looks like 4 days ago something happened. A shame that there is not this much out cry when something goes wrong with the steem dev's, like the bad Privacy/TOS fiasco. I know you are working on it, and it will likely be fixed. do not sweat the reactionaries. Life goes on, and the ones that are developers or experts in their field, I am sure they never in their lives made a typo or miscalculation, or linked a bad link.

So I hope those that had some not so nice things to say step back and re-look at what the purpose was, what they said, and that they best hope they do not make a mistake in their Steem careers. All of them with the exception of @berniesanders made the wrong call when refusing to support Bernie in his fight against haejin. All of them allowed haejin to become one of the most powerful accounts on steemit, @berniesanders warned them all. I understand his reaction to the mistake, he is a reactionary, and he acts as he see right, the others well they obviously from previous lack of actions only react when thing effect them not steemit.

So yes you two still have my support.

Great tool! Vote, resteem and vote again for witness

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how and why did I make your "blacklist" again?

ITT: Basically, everyone who upvoted it did not actually check out the tool to see the bug.

I doubt they even read the post. This is Steemit, after all.

such a shame you feel that way about steemit. but is many cases you would be right!

Interesting information good job

hopefully with this tool can be useful for us all
Thanks a lot for the new tool @ steemcommunity

I hope so too

Thanks for this report and sharing some new important information for us. I am one of your supporter, and I am happy to read this post. I am going to join the @theexcelclub.

thanks a lot,

regards from Aceh, Indonesia.

you support is much appreciated . Thank you

Nice one Paula! :D

Thank you partner :-)