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in steemit •  8 years ago 

can you please translate that to logic please?

thanks

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      ·  8 years ago 

    I remember reading about Fredrick Engels from---Communist Manifesto #5,
    Karl Marx & Frederick Engels

    Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.

    That's scary shit!

    The quote I gave you is from my study on Marxism and how it's being used in the past and today.

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        ·  8 years ago 

      thats Marxism-Leninism marxism is the ideological attack of capitalism
      I'm a marxist anarchist not a marxist-leninis
      did you even read my name?

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          ·  8 years ago 

        Sorry, I looked at your link and only saw Marxist shit😟

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            ·  8 years ago 

          it is marxist?

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              ·  8 years ago 

            Frederick Engels was not an anarchist right?

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                ·  8 years ago (edited)

              "Other writers, while admitting the distance between Marx and Engels and Stalin, are less charitable, noting for example that the anarchist Bakunin predicted the oppressive potential of their ideas. "It is a fallacy that Marxism's flaws were exposed only after it was tried out in power.... [Marx and Engels] were centralisers. While talking about 'free associations of producers', they advocated discipline and hierarchy."[93]"

              nope

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                  ·  8 years ago 

                The Marxist view like the advocates for a true free market may never be realized because of those pesky inbred psychopathic demons lololo

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                    ·  8 years ago 

                  english?
                  " like the advocates "?

                  are you saying that it is because of other people a free market can't exist? My first link had examples of market socialism, the only true form of free market.

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                      ·  8 years ago 

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                        ·  8 years ago 

                      From your link.....Marx and his co-worker, Engels, consistently argued that socialism (or communism, they used the terms interchangeably) could only evolve out of the political and economic circumstances created by a fully developed capitalism. In other words, production would have to be expanded within capitalism to a point where the potential existed to allow for "each [to take] according to their needs". In turn, this objective condition would have created the basis for a socialist-conscious majority willing to contribute their physical and mental skills voluntarily in the production and distribution of society's needs.

                      Hence the quite from Brzezinski

                      Brzezinski described Marxism as a further vital and creative stage in the maturing of man's universal vision... Tension is unavoidable as man strives to assimilate the new into the framework of the old. But at some point the old framework becomes overloaded. The new input can no longer be redefined into traditional forms, and eventually it asserts itself with compelling force.

                      I argue a true free market has nothing to do with the state and democracy is anarchy in its purest form.

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                          ·  8 years ago 

                        I still don't understand the point of your quote

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                            ·  8 years ago 

                          In a capitalist system socialism will replace the old capitalist frame work....the capital needed to feed a socialist system will devour the old system....as the old system collapses there will be need for force to bring in communism.

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                              ·  8 years ago 

                            I forgot to give you the book title Antony Sutton and Patrick M. Wood, in their book 'Trilaterals Over Washington', quoting from Zbigniew Brzezinski's book 'Between Two Ages'

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