We Really Need SubSteemits To Be Implemented As Soon As Possible

in steemit •  8 years ago  (edited)


Source: steemit.com

I think that steemit should implement things that has been proven to work. You don't have to reinvent the wheel when it comes to social networks, just take something that has already proven to work and copy it.

Steemit is already superior to other social networks because of its voting algorithm that battles spam and trolls in the best way, so what is needed to be done is just making Steemit look like Reddit, if that happens, I know for me that I will use Steemit as the only front-page of the Internet.

Feel free to comment on whether you agree with me or not.

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Could you describe what do you mean by SubSteemits? What features do they need to have? Why does Steemit need to look like Reddit, I see them to be quite different - Reddit is more like content aggregator, Steemit encourages original content.

I believe what the OP is talking about is "Content Siloing", which is something reddit does through subreddits. Each piece of content belongs to a specific silo within the site, and that silo is highly curated to only allow relevant materials.

Currently the tag system we have in place is doing a terrible job of siloing. Tags are being used inappropriately - causing most of the tag pages here on steemit.com to be just a jumbled mess. Occasionally a large stakeholder in steemith will issue a threat saying "I'll flag anything with inappropriate tags", but that's not a good solution, as it requires constant vigilance and is impossible for a single person to do, especially given the limited payout windows.

To draw the comparison further between reddit and steemit, steemit.com's homepage right now is just like /r/all on reddit. It's shows everything, all tags, sorted by the "hotness" factor (payout in our case). It honestly doesn't make for a homepage that's all that appealing, except to those with a lot of power. There's also probably good reason as to why /r/all isn't reddit's homepage, and instead reddit uses a silo'd approach to the default subreddits.

To answer your question of "what features do they need to have", in order for steemit to move to a silo'd approach, we would need:

  • A mechanism to allow for one "tag" that would act as the Silo. The post would only show up under that tag.
  • Limiting each tag page on steemit to only show posts that used that single "Silo" tag.
  • A mechanism to allow the community to adjust the silo'd tag on a post. For example, a great post that used "gaming" as the silo tag and "league of legends" as an additional tag, but is 99% about league of legends, should have the tags swapped so "league of legends" is the silo'd tag. Pseudo-moderation.

I don't know that any of this would necessarily work in the steem ecosystem, but I think it's worthy of the discussion. Currently what we have isn't good, and a better solution needs to be worked out. Hopefully the OP, your comments, mine and everyone else's will help lead to that conclusion.

Yep. This is what I'm trying to beta test with stuff like #steemit-hunt. I think we can (for now) just make do with having groups of people be thoughtful about using tags and self-policing.

Then we can also build alternate client front ends which are optimized for different kinds of use cases.

Of course, @jesta's #steempress project might very well be used to have individuals RUN those separate "sub reddits" in even more of a distributed way, even with separate domains.

It does bring up the issue of trust. What to display / what not to display / algorithms for content sorting can very much influence what people see, which influences how they vote.

This guy gets it :)

Great comment, This is really what I meant by SubSteemits, There should be a discussion about improving the Steemit front page, because as you've said, currently Steemit front page isn't appealing to everyone.

Thanks :)

I've been putting a lot of thought into steemit lately, and I think you're touching on an issue that many feel. I hope we can get some good discussions going about it and help spark a change that'll benefit us all.

Reddit has original content too, we need Substeemits to work the same as they do in Reddit, with the option to have either a text post or a link post. Not all people can create original content, some are good at finding great content too, so why limit the options of what steemit can be, it can be both, a content aggregator and content creator.

Each SubSteemit should focus on a subject that it's members are interested in, I'm not sure about how should the moderators part be implemented here, maybe people can vote on moderators decision to avoid censorship or even SubSteemits without moderators, I'm not sure what is best, other people may have better suggestions about the implementation details.

Think it needs to be even better than what reddit has. More of a hierarchy system. Root->steem->mining Root->steem->steemit Root->games->simulation etc. Then you could choose to browse the entire site, everything steem related or just steem mining related.

Good call! I'm sure it's in the works :)

I'm dying for this, it will be a whole new place when this happens.

Cg

I totally agree with you my friend! :)

100% agree! I don't want to waste my attention to those crap anarcho capitalist stuffs everyday.

yes there is a lot of anarchist here, that's okay, but I want my front page to look more customized for my preferred subjects.

Yes, that is it.
I don't mind anarchist either, but I hate those who are silent about the violence of captial power.

Sounds good to me.
dubloon135

I'm with you on this

Steem dollars will have more of an impact in the future digital economy.. So maybe being like Reddit would trap us into being just a blogging site :/