Would you buy a Steem account for a friend with Steem or SBD?

in steemit •  8 years ago  (edited)

I recently proposed to the Steemit team to add a feature to allow Steemian's to create accounts for their friends via Steemit. By coincidence, this feature was added shortly thereafter to http://busy.org and @timcliff made a post about it here:
https://steemit.com/news/@timcliff/new-tool-from-busy-org-create-new-steem-blockchain-accounts-with-steemconnect

Personally, I'm very excited about this feature because it seems like one of the best ways to validate users as "real people" for onboarding purposes. This method of account creation gets around the faucet abuse problems with previous methods, because the Steemian would actually have to make a gift of some Steem to their friend to create the account (with the faucet method, accounts were paid for by Steemit, and some people went so far as to fake their identities to get lots of accounts). I think people are already primarily brought to Steem by friends, and I don't think it's a great leap that people would be willing to buy or at least loan Steem to a friend to create an account for them.

Anyways, I'm mainly posting this to get other people's opinions on this. Would you create accounts for your friends this way? Or, have you used it already? If so, any comments on the experience? Do you think there should be a direct link on steemit.com to the account creation page?

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yes this is awesome, that way we can offer a Steemit account to our friends or relatives as a gift, the link on Steemit.com is a must ! resteemed

Awesome advice...hope they bite! lol

i agreed to you :)

Why not. I used that feature already.

@blocktrades, it's an awesome idea and I would buy a few of my family and friends steemit accounts. i would like for my young boys to have accounts as well. They are too young now, but for future use and so I can tag them in my posts.

I figure if I could start gifting them Steem Power now, they could have some serious Steem Power in the future.

This feature actually exists today: usage is documented in timcliff's post, if you want to give it a try. I'm hoping a good response here on this post will get a link on steemit.com so the feature has more visibility. If you do wind up using it, please post your thoughts about it afterwards here.

@blocktrades, I delegated 20 Steem to each of my sons, so they can have early accounts here on steemit. They won't be active for some time, but their steemit accounts are ready when they are.

My plan is: whenever I post about one of my sons or post regarding both of them, I will transfer a percentage of the steem power to both their wallets. A steem power savings account for both of my precious boys.

I wanted to do it once, but because I never hold liquidity, I was not able to, it would have been nice to add the SBD option as well.

Great idea. I wasnt a content supplier and had to be placed on the waiting list due to not having a Facebook/Reddit account. I signed up in Aug and was accepted in Dec. I have more than 10 friends who want to sign up.

Domi

I would. Considering I've had many dear friends sign up and some find it difficult or time consuming
As a user whos actively marketing and promoting steemit I'd love to be able to instantly create an account for a friend during a discussion and hand it over immediately and get them to start using it the minutes after creation. I could get 3x the signups i am currently. :)

It's nice to be able to get an account verified right away... Yes I am going to use it for family/friends, but I haven't as of yet.

Thanks for the always great service blocktrades, I use you guys over shapeshift. 👍

By the way, last night I created an account for my nephew using steemconnect. It was very easy, I just had to pay 6 steem to create it. The 6 steem went to his steem power, I told him the first 6 steem he makes is mine. 😁

Yes... I also have made one account for my daughter. I use busy.org as @timcliff write on his posting. :)

Do you think there should be a direct link on steemit.com to the account creation page?

Yes, sort of like an invitation, would help steemit viral growth!

yes, that would help out the beginners out a lot im sure.

I would... especially since the blockchain would show who is creating friend accounts to keep abusers out of the way. I man, I don't have 9999 friends, and if my account created that many.. well.. then you know something fishy is going on..

Personally, I'd like to see new accounts have to serve some sort of probationary period. If you don't write "ever"... or get upvoted "ever"... then perhaps after 30 days the account gets released again.

I don't know... as long as we can stop name hoarders from buying up every cool name in existence... I'm all for it.

Sounds like an awesome idea, i would be willing to open a account for a friend and send some sbd there way. In my opinion this would make it easier to get people to our platform.

I hear it the first time and find the idea nich bad. However, I also consider that this system might be abused. Maybe I think because synonymous wrong and everything would run without problems....

My opinion is that creating an account for friends would not be a problem personally for me, the main thing is that friends want it. So far I have not done this, so it's hard for me to give my experience. Link to the account creation page would be logical. Maybe someone has other opinions, it's interesting

If I had a friend who wanted an account I would be happy to create one for them this way if they wanted. However I don't know if it's a mechanism which should be overly publicized, as it could lead to trouble from some with more questionable intentions.

A direct link would be great! It would be put to use for sure!

I think most steemians will do for their family and friends. @blocktrades

Its definitely something to think about, but probably need to be monitored... people would always find a way around the system....fake accounts should definitely be taken serious as well...I still see promotional videos through youtube, advertising time at peak hours on major media house and a general regional tour in various places would help grow Steemit....

I've made accounts for a few people, the process was quick and easy - I'd love to see the feature built into the steemit interface directly

This is an excellent idea.

Definitely would do this, I have s specific friend in mind for it already.

This feature actually exists today, usage is documented in timcliff's post. I'm hoping a good response here on this post will get a link on steemit.com so the feature has more visibility.

Hi @blocktrades. The latest pull request that I submitted to the condenser repository will add info on using SteemConnect under the question "What are other ways to create an account on the blockchain besides using Steemit.com?". This should at least help.

I think having it in a more prevalent / built-in part of the site though would be really good, since it would get it a lot more exposure than being tucked away in the FAQ.

A link on steemit would make ease of use go through the roof in regard to this. Appreciate you creating buzz for it.

Have yet not used it, but certainly would. Yes, I do support the idea of a direct link on steemit, as opening up of accounts for new ones at times takes very long. So it seems necessary to reduce the hurdles in order to speed it up:

Absolutely that's a great idea. I actually just sent a friend the @steemit website link if this was in place I could've easily set her up myself.

It's an interesting idea alright, and yes at least if someone is willing enough to invest some of their steem into the person they should at least be real!

I wonder could it ever be made to sell a steem account? Say if you needed money fast and couldn't wait for the power down to complete, you could sell your account with all your steempower in it to someone obviously for a lower price then it's worth!

Oh and now I'm suddenly getting thoughts of all the account names that sometime in the future could well be worth a hell of a lot!

Yes, there's been a number of name-squatters who've accumulated names for their potential future value. At least this method forces them to pay for the privilege. It is possible to sell an account now, it's been done a few times, although it's not totally trivial to do.

The potential future value of some names could be very lucrative.

Amazingly @rte was not taken, until I took it.

Lucky!!!! That's the retirement fund sorted!

I know many people that would be great Steemers but they are too lazy to make an account. Maybe this could be useful

Yes. I would.

Sounds ok to me :-) Considering people make multiple accounts for themselves anyways there would be no higher risk than there is...

I want my mother to join actually, she has no creative outlets at the moment but technology kind of scares her away. I would gladly make her an account to ease her in, that would be awesome!

Good idea!!
And add an affiliate feature so people actively look for good bloggers.
Have a nice one :-)

Sound a good idea but its not a guarantee to keep then here, maybe they get there bonus when they have wrote so many posts or reached a higher Rep :)

We'd need some kind of referral system as well, where if I create their account, I get maybe 1% of their post rewards for a year.

That could be a big form of abuse. Someone could buy a bunch of accounts and just have them post and upvote each other endlessly. Affiliate schemes tend to attract scuzzy people, in my opinion 🤷🏽‍♀️

There is nothing in Steem that cannot be abused. It's just a matter of how effectively we can police it.

True, I just think any kind of affiliate system is very carefully reviewed and considered. Also, an affiliate program can project a scammy appearance and could scare off new people who may already be confused about how money is "made out of thin air" on Steemit. I probably wouldn't have signed up if there was mention of affiliate because I've been burned so many times by "products" presented to me that only serve to enrich the referrer aka clickbank type junk. IMO steemit sells itself and doesn't need MLM style tactics to grow. Basically I'm allergic to the word "affiliate" and also "downline" "backoffice" "matrix" etc... I can just imagine some shady internet marketer coming up with a "product", something like "Learn how I made $XXXxx in five hours by using this new emerging tech!" And then charge $47.95 for a five page ebook, steemit account and a bunch of "training videos" where they spend 75% of the time going off topic and pushing more of their products...

Sorry for the rant...! 😬

i already created one account from busy, paid for it. I like the option

I'll do it if friends want to join.

I haven't use it but i think is a good idea. Yes I'm going to use it to create account for family members , friends or even not for profit organization that want to try Steemit. I support it.

Indeed, the account will just need a simple comment that I created to this account for .... then its verified. Aside from the fact that it can be seen internally by the admin. No need for verification, I guess

Yes, all day yes.

Sure, it will act like a marketing tool. We can use affiliate links , and if someone is recommending someone it makes sure that person will contribute to the platform. Looking forward to it.

Steemit.com should give three options for getting an account:

  1. Get a free account from Steemit.
  2. If you already know somebody who uses Steem, you can ask them to create an account for you.
  3. Buy an account. Currently there is AnonSteem, but of course it would be better if there were more cryptocurrencies accepted, or even fiat-currencies.

When a new user buys an account, they could also pay some extra and get more SP immediately. It would be very easy way to invest in Steem.

I suggested almost a year ago that Steemit should have an easy way to buy new accounts.

I pretty do buy my friends and family steemit accounts by me giving them bitcoin which they purchase STEEM/SBD which they POWER UP into Steem Power.

So if steemit in the future is no longer free...

I still would give them the bitcoin or STEEM/SBD so they can be a part of my life...on steemit.com

I would endorse and use this feature!

yes but not sure if they would use it often enough. but its a good idea.

I would... if I had any friends.

well, I think Vera deserves one at least...

Funny you should mention that...

Haha nice one

When you had to buy an account - did not know where ((
Kind people helped with registration for free
Upvote please @blocktrades. Need SP! Thank you all...

I made an account for my wife on anonsteem.

Cool. I haven't tried blocktrades.

Honestly I never think of that, this is an awesome idea, tho I am a newbie here, found that steemit is really a good platform, your post inspires me , cheers man! have a good day!

I'm seeing this way late, but that's a great development and I'll surely use it when trying to get friends onto the platform! Having a bit of value already in an account that was gifted will probably do wonders on making sure new members remain active as well.

I do think this should be a feature directly implemented into steemit.com, to make it easier to find and use.

Considering @timcliff was the hero of the year for me yesterday, (he helped me set up my account), I'd say I approve of being able to buy friends steemit accounts.

Thank you very much for suggesting this @blocktrades.

After battling two months and trying with 3 different cell phone numbers I was no closer to getting a Steemit account for my brother.
Then I eventually found the post by @timcliff which was a total life saver.

I do however think Steemit devs must somehow try and limit it to stop abuse to maybe a certain number accounts per month allowed for creation.

But overall a very handy feature.

I don't mind the slightest to donate some of my own Steem to get an account for a family member or close friend.

User acquisition is no doubt one strategic objective that needs to be worked on. I like Seth Godin insight on this; where it's best to implement and test different marketing tactics i.e. put in action to establish what really works and what not. So I'd say open up various ways for people to sign up (and make them visible and clear at steemit homepage); along with how-to-videos for the different proposed ways of signing up. Referral is no doubt one good way, and that's how I got to learn about steemit in fact. Of course a little incentive e.g. couple of SBD or SP would be nice if offered for referring.

This is such a great idea , I have many friends and family who'd like this idea

Wow you are rich with this site

How much would the accounts cost if you were to throw out a price?
If not too much, seems like a great idea.

I think it's six steem now.

Sounds awesome. I wanna bring a few friends on Steemit. One of them it's a novel writer. :D

hmmmmmmm, waiting to invite some more wonderful people to this community, lets all get rich! brace face laugh

Hello @blocktrades ! I'll share/resteem all your posts if you can follow me and resteem too my future posts ,you're the best ,thank you and hope we'll help each other ! I wish you have the best posts !

I could make an account for my girlfriend. Hmmm... She is lazy about joining, we'll have a chat. Btw, I sent people your way and refereed blocktrades exchange in my last post. Hope I help someone somewhere! Cheers!

Great idea and questions

Hello, @blocktrades. My sister @shellany accidentally sent 291 SBD to your Steem wallet (see your wallet history). She forgot to input the blocktrades.us memo to be sent to her coins.ph wallet. Please send it back to her. We need it to add medical expenses for my scheduled surgery this week. Sorry for the inconvenience.

no problem, I've refunded it

Thank you very much!

I said a big prayer for your tonight @darthnava - I hope you felt it :)

can you help me with openledger, I couldn't withdraw my SBD and I didn't get the minor sum I sent in, any ideas, sorry If I'm bugging you, It's a first and I'm still learning the ropes, I've been trading for a month, I think I did everything correctly, sure I didn't copy paste 5 times but there shouldn't have been an error on my part, can closing the deposit window fuck up the transaction, also how do i withdraw back

i surely would if a real friend wants me to do it :)

Good posts from you @blocktrades
I like it ^_^
Upvote & Resteem

I am not too sure, about *buying steem for friends part. But I introduced two of my friends here. And they are having a nice time here.

  • Be it Fiat, Steem Dollars or Be it Linden Dollars or Poker Chips, people are generally selfish when it comes to money: real, crypto, game money, or even monopoly money :)

I am so glad to see this. I tried to sign up my brother, confirmed email and phone... but never received the final sign up info. When I attempted to reconfirm, it said that phone number had been used. Maybe I can just give him an account.

Can we create accounts for kids? I have nephews I would like to do that for.

Sure, there are several kids with accounts on the Steem blockchain.

new news for me. Interesting. upvote and follow you!

Steemconnect is great I already used it to sponsor and onboard a new writer to @steemsports by instantly creating his account @sportsdesk, he is resposible for the America's Cup yachting posts.

I have created a few others, one was a dev I'm trying to bring in, and a potential investor, the idea is to onboard sports writers from across the globe.

hi @blocktrades, sorry I'm having problems again with my transaction. This is what coins.ph sent me

https://blockchain.info/tx/16e4196202e3175afdae53445fac8e6d867b856d9de46ae412a3a1aec0c9597f

Hope you could shed light on this.

Great idea and i already did that :)

Hi blocktrades, I'm new here. I'm curious why my purchase of steem, shows that it was received from you? are you Daniel Larimer, are you a steem admin of some kind? The transfer was BTC from coinbase to the steemit address/key I was given, so why does it say it came from you? I'd love some clarification, hate to think you are a hacker who got my key code...
Thanks,

BlockTrades provides the feature for purchasing Steem on the Steemit website, but we are a separate company. You can find out more about us here: https://blocktrades.us

Thanks, somehow that was not clear in my purchase of steem. Glad you are not an evil doer :)

good

Nice Idea. I think this will help me add some of my nearest friends. This will help not only to prevent spam account s also we can make a big friends group easily.

I have just sent you $5.016 as I didn't put my reference, like an idiot I put an om and a smiley face. Please can anyone help. I am heart broken because I needed that to move house and I don"t know what i can do now. This was my fresh start, I am devastated and don't know what to do 😢😢😢😢😢

Hello, blocktrades. I think you are right, have you ever hear of the phone app Whatzapp? people can buy it for other so they can have free communication trough the internet and that really worked out. So I don't see why this wouldn't.

That's a great idea. I'd do it.
Just need to get a friend to join now :D

I have on boarded friends using this method.
Ps. Upvoted as witness. Ty for helping to keep this community great!

yes i would

Looking forward for the improvement and awesome features. Namaste!

Great idea!

Why does it have a line-through on the upvotes?

It just means that I declined payment for any upvotes to this post. It's an option you can set when you make a post, if you don't won't to receive a payment for upvotes that are made on it. It's generally done when the post is more directed to improving steem. I declined payment on this post, because it's not my content that was supposed to be important, so much as what the responses are by commenters.

Just realized it says 'payout declined' clicking on it. Thanks for the explanation. All makes sense now.

definately agree. great idea. I was telling few friends about it. taking that fisrts step seems to be the hardest one. This would accelerate the user base increase I think.

Good afternoon! Today I see the problem in the work of the site. I can not make an exchange.

I really like that idea, it be a great way to get people on here and we need that. Glad to see how active Blocktrrades is being within Steemit, so glad I use your service.

I did a write up for you guys today, well included in how I mine and use you guys to hopefully get you more users and miners feeding your service for more Steem Power ups here. I think your service is the way to go for miners end needs so hope this brings you more customers.

Here is my article, if there is anything I need to add let me know:

https://steemit.com/blocktrades/@sflaherty/how-i-mine-for-steem-power-and-get-weekly-sp-boosts-nicehash-blocktrades-steemit-wallet

Thanks for the post!

Anytime, really back what you guys do so anytime I can get you a good shout out I will...you guys done great by me so its the least I can do. Keep up the good work and I will keep letting them know how to use you guys to their advantage, should help users and you out hopefully.

I don't work in marketing for nothing lol...gotta help the good services out when I see them

Great article, thank you for sharing. Followed and upvoted!

thank you son much for sending me steem dollars..... am greatful.
have been following up on your post and i learnt a lot.

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This is a good idea, and I hope to get a positive appreciation from the person in charge

What a great idea. What better way to learn and grow from others than to offer accounts to our friends/family. I just joined @blocktrades and already learning so much and reading such interesting blogs!

We love what is going on here and we really hope everyone wakes up to this technologies. This can very well be our future, and in our opinion it will be a brighter future.

A perfect idea. I would use it for friends.. maybe some prepaid steem card which he can activate when he used the account and made 5 posts..

can someone tell me why this post has a strike-through and declined payout ?

I don't quite get it.. although I'm figuring it's because the post contains bogus info ?

It's an option when you create a post, if you don't want to get paid for the post.

ok .. that makes sense now, it's all paid out in steem power instead ! got it. Thanks Blocktrades :)

There is an option for it all to be paid out in Steem Power, but this is a different option called 'decline payout'. It means that no payout will be paid to the author of the post.

ah i see this is so that the big fish can choose to leave something for the smaller dudes.. very generous ! I like that. It's kind of self regulating.. not like the (usual) real world !

good blog right up my street ! following :>

This is cool.

This is really awesome idea my friend!

The basic problem is I think people are not ready to pay money for creating accounts, facebook account can be done for free, same for reddit and anything online mostly.

It's pretty easy to get the cost back via a few good posts, so I'm not sure it's much of a barrier.

This would be great , there are lots of users who made dead or fake account .this would be initiative step for steem community .

Thanks for this post. I've been wondering if this was possible!

Thanks information @blocktrades
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I'm from steemit indonesia community ..
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I think it's a great idea, I might set up an account for my kids, they are obviously not going to use but atleast maybe I can transfer some of my shares(if any-lol) or buy some for them. But sorry if it is a stupid question I am new to this-if we start opening multiple accounts then can't some people take advantage of it by just using those accounts for person gain. Sorry if it's a very stupid question 😬

Steem power was created as a concept to avoid the problem of people creating multiple accounts. You can create as many accounts as you want, it's your total steem power that matters for voting, not how it is divided up.

Ok thank you, will have further read into it. It's still very confusing the whole steemit I mean.

so much what was created here for a better cause.... but quite a lot people are using this for their advantage... but I agree with you totally

This is really a great step towards the success of the steem community.

Yes -- and no. I donated some bitcoin to my niece and to a friend's son, but that's only because I have fared well recently and want to interest the younger generation in cryptos. Nevertheless, as a minnow, I spread my votes out too thinly as it as, and I'm still trying to build up my reputation and my steem. But if I had more than I needed, I would definitely spread the wealth. Thank you, btw, for your upvote, @blocktrades! It really made my day (and month, and year), as I don't think I've ever received such a generous reward before -- not even close, in fact!

great idea to steemit.Thank you for your post. I want to boost steemit community in Japan. Regards David

I just come across this post and knew about this new feature. I have tried to persuade my close friends to join Steemit but none have taken up the offer, perhaps this will do the trick.

that is a great idea!!

Why wouldn't people create their own accounts for free? Chances are if u gift someone an account they're not gonna use it anyway..idk maybe I missed something?