Top 50 witnesses who DO NOT directly support bidbots with their delegations.

empato365 (64) · 7 years ago

Yeah I agree with you. We should research about a witness before voting either from their witness thread other activities from them, we cannot just exhaust 30 of our votes to people who just ask for it.

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bycoleman (59) · 7 years ago

As far as I know you can vote for 30 witnesses and then change then change your selection at nearly any time.

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ebargains (68) · 7 years ago

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scottcbusiness (72) · 7 years ago

is there a reputation requirement or could infinite bots proxy their vote? I can't find out about this anywhere and I think it's insanely important to address that or fix the loophole it creates. Also is there any tool to see who is getting their proxies from and who is sending out proxies? Not accusing anyone, but if that is the case anyone who is a witness could have paid to be one. Thinking like, if you spent maybe 20k on bots and got like 12-15k bots out of it and proxied their vote and then vote for yourself as a witness. Out of the almost 1 million users that is a 1.5% vote that puts you at 80 in the top 100 witnesses. Pretty important for fact checking! That is a lot of money, but to someone wealthy they could become a witness overnight using bid bots for reputation boosting and then bots for witness voting.

bycoleman (59) · 7 years ago

Thanks for the great questions.

Reputation does not directly factor into becoming a witness. Someone with a higher reputation probably has a greater chance of being voted on, but that is it.
As I just found out from @gtg earlier today, delegations do not affect the amount of voting power each person has, only vested shares (not deletaged shares)

So, the use of bots are not a direct factor in becoming a witness, but there is of course an incentive if your run bots to be a witneess so you can insure the bot revenue remains.

scottcbusiness (72) · 7 years ago (edited)

No I mean like using a proxy vote from a bot to do a witness vote. Someone who owns say 50 bots can proxy them to one bot who can then witness vote for yourself. Is there a way that is prevented?

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bycoleman (59) · 7 years ago

It is not about how many accounts you have, it is about how much SP you have vested. One account or 1,000. It is the sum total of the SP. One account worth 1,000 SP = 1,000 accounts worth 1 SP each.

All witness votes are SP weighted.

scottcbusiness (72) · 7 years ago

So then you can only vote for 30, is voting for more than say 5 depleting the available vests you give to the original 5?

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cryptosharon (69) · 7 years ago

No, all votes are the same. If you vote for 1 or 30, the vote for the 1st one remains with the same weight.

The difference is that if you have 1000 SP and someone has 1,000,000 SP and vote for different witnesses, the other person will have choice privilege and your votes will matter much less.

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scottcbusiness (72) · 7 years ago

Yeah makes sense. So the issue is anyone can technically buy their way to being a witness. The only way to deter that and make it more expensive is if everyone participates in voting / proxies their vote

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pradhan222 (48) · 7 years ago

Thanks for your sharing.I like it.

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shamimsheikh (16) · 7 years ago

nice

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msabbir (44) · 7 years ago

thanks for sharing this post i appreciate your post best of luck..

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bhop42moro (46) · 7 years ago

Not just voted, but resteemed, too.

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bycoleman (59) · 7 years ago

Thank you!

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hasenmann (65) · 7 years ago

Thank you for that!!

##upvoted and resteemed##

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bycoleman (59) · 7 years ago

Thank you!

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sumon130514 (50) · 7 years ago

Thanks for sharing the informative upvote & comment. Everyone will know how to increase vpvote??

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nishadhasan (50) · 7 years ago

@bycoleman Brother, I found it informative. I upvote this post. I don't have voting value, sorry for that. I will have millions of SP and will vote you with my 100% Voting Power. Keep sharing please brother. Blessed. <3

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bycoleman (59) · 7 years ago

Thank you, have a blessed day.

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crypto-econom1st (57) · 7 years ago

Is the intention of this list that I can vote for witnesses that will do something about upvote bots?
At least those witnesses don't seem to be a fan of the bots?

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bycoleman (59) · 7 years ago

This list is information only and not a direct solicitation for votes for those listed.

If you feel these people are a good choice as witnesses, than by all means vote for them. There is a URL for each to find out more about them as you see fit.

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crypto-econom1st (57) · 7 years ago

I actually prefer witnesses that will do something about the bots. I guess I have to read all their info posts. I have something to do this weekend 😀

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fullcoverbetting (69) · 7 years ago

Come on @crypto-econom1st, you know which witness we should lift to the number 1 spot! Don't you?

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crypto-econom1st (57) · 7 years ago

Yes, but I can't vote outside the top50. Will try it again tomorrow. Guess I have to use my desktop computer...

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fullcoverbetting (69) · 7 years ago

You can!
Go to : https://steemit.com/~witnesses
Go to the bottom and there you can cast your vote for witnesses outside the top 50!

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crypto-econom1st (57) · 7 years ago

I know but for some reason it doesn't work from my smart phone. Guess the phone isn't that smart 😋

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cotsybob (35) · 7 years ago

Hi @bycoleman I have just recently signed up to this and I am still learning. I have put @kevinmeehanmusic on to this too. Also would like to thank my friend @blascobite for giving me this opportunity

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gems.and.cookies (65) · 7 years ago

I like the subliminal effect of the photo used for this post.

True friends are like angels. They are precious and rare. False friends are like leaves. They are found everywhere.

FUR'd.

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bycoleman (59) · 7 years ago

Thank you Gems --- not sure it was that subliminal :)

Yes, I have less friends now than I did years back, difference is, they are true friends.

I guess quality is king, just about everywhere.

It's time for your to write a few words so your blog is not a clone of mine ;)

Blessings.

gems.and.cookies (65) · 7 years ago

Well if you'd gone down farther you'd know it's not a clone of yours : ) But I agree I am not much to writing my own these days. Last one I did received Stents without the manual voting. I don't think you even saw it as you've been very active cleaning up the john. I find commenting and replying to other's posts more productive sans the frustrations. Can't even bring myself to do the Writing Contest reflection post you requested seeing how the one that was done performed at the gates even after you FUR'd it. I'll snap out of it, don't worry. Just need a little fresh air so to speak. Great to hear your thoughts again my friend.

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bycoleman (59) · 7 years ago (edited)

Wow, I can feel your pain from here. So sorry to know you are a bit melancholy or at least pretty frustrated and the moment.

don't think you even saw it as you've been very active cleaning up the john.

Yes, I think you are very right, I have been obsessed with trying to find ways to "Clean the John".. It is overflowing and it does not smell very good. What you are feeling is real, the platform is mutating to a very useless place and will spiral out of control if we do not get a handle on it. Thus my obsession. I do not give up quietly.

Sorry I missed your post and I also did not see the contest write-up for several days and by then it was a bit late to give it any real boost. I probably should have have paid for a little bit resteems for it.

Yes, it is great to be talking with you again, lets find some solutions and we'll get to stick around for awhile.

Blessings!

gems.and.cookies (65) · 7 years ago

Yup. Am with you all the way my friend. Whatever help you need from me it's yours. God bless us all.

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steemzit (25) · 7 years ago

This your post is not nice at all. For how many hours no commenter has been able to make just a cent.

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hypnopreneur (57) · 7 years ago

Good stuff man, much appreciated.

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cowboyup (50) · 7 years ago

So I'm new to this whole thing, what is a Witness? what does it do/mean?

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https://steemit.com/stats/@eroche/steem-get-to-know-the-witnesses-part-5

bycoleman (59) · 7 years ago

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riazsheikh (44) · 7 years ago

Great post. thanks for sharing

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thatguyjoe (51) · 7 years ago

@unlimitedorizons
Here are some solid witnesses to look into!

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mediaservice (53) · 7 years ago

nice post. your method is good. thanks. @mediaservice

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clixmoney (76) · 7 years ago

Amazing, I just wrote about the same topic here : It's the time to vote for the right witnesses !. It's good when you care about the community and share the truth here, I will vote on more witnesses right now. Thanks for the list.

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