Rise of the Bots - Are your Steemit posts giving you the rewards you deserve?

in steemit •  7 years ago 

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The Steemit Bots are revolting, no literally they are have you seen the LoveJuice one going on about spraying bodily fluids over each other - so appalling. It’s nearly as bad as when I accidentally turned on show NSFW posts and then browsed the NEW posts lists - it’s put me right off cucumbers for life that is for sure.

Now for many of us starting out on Steemit the first thing you do is look around for some guidance posts, and generally you find most say you need to follow people who post on topics you are interested in, upvote the posts you like and comment on the posts you are upvoting stating why you like the post (preferentially including information about the post, and not using the now standard spam of “Nice picture”, “Good Post”, “I upvote you, you upvote and follow me”. ) I don’t think you have to write a massive reply, but at least showing you looked at what was posted and took in the information - engage the poster is probably the best description.

So like a good steemie I did all this, and posted my own posts in the hope that I would get loads of returned upvotes and comments. You can view my blog https://steemit.com/@c0ff33a and scroll down to the start to see how that went.

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Now the reasons for my problems are plenty, to start off with I don’t have very much time each day to devote to being a community member of Steemit - so trying to upvote and comment on people’s posts is limited and the less you do the less you are going to see back. Second, I’m not a people person - I grew up on a farm with my own company to occupy me and that has followed me through life - I don’t have great social skills and struggle to engage people whether in real life or virtually. That’s a big downer on a platform like Steemit where you have to engage and bond with your potential audience to ensure they keep loyal to you.

The big problem however, and I feel from viewing my feed of posts by people I follow it is a common one - is the simple volume of posts occurring every single minute means when you post something it instantly drops down a massive list - and unless someone you interact with just happens to be online browsing when you post they will likely miss it and possibly never even see it to give you and upvote and reply. In this way some really good quality posts, which should be earning a really good author reward for the effort - get 0.05 SBD or other fractions just because it dropped down the list before anyone had chance to see it.

Of course if you just want to share your content to the world whatever, then earning a little reward is no doubt enough. But I’m sure many of us scroll through the hot list and see the same people getting rewards of $10, $40, $80, $100 and just don’t understand why our own posts struggle to even get a single $1. Simple answer is it’s not what you know it’s who you know - and once you have the big upvote power it’s obvious that groups with the same upvote power will latch together and upvote each other to gain even more.

So for the rest of us we either have to befriend a few whales with massive upvote power, or help ourselves by using the old adage speculate to accumulate. That is reinvest the SBD your posts have already created into the new ones to get more value from them - and you do this by paying the bots for upvotes.

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This handy list https://steembots.com/#/ shows you all the currently available bots with their current vote power and the value of that vote. You can search the bot name on steemit and on their blog will be the instructions on how to use them - it’s quite simple most work by you sending the bot name the required amount of SBD along with the link to your own article you wish to upvote in the memo.

BUT, it’s a massive gamble - while one the whole you should at least get back what you put in - sometimes you won’t. And this can be particularly bad for Bid Bots likes BellyRub where you send your SBD bid - and it’s gets pooled with others for around 2.5 hours and then the upvote is shared by all the bidders - if many people bid in the same period as you the upvote gets diluted and you might get an upvote less then the amount you sent. This is not good.

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Minnowbooster have hit a new spin on the idea, they have a website with a graph showing the available bids you can send - https://www.minnowbooster.net - this graph changes all the time. What you need to do is work out how much you want to send maximum, and then keep refreshing the page until that bid range becomes available - then dive in to your wallet and send it quick before someone else gets in. I prefer to have my wallet all set up ready to send just waiting for the target value to be put in. The bonus of this waiting is you can get really good ROI - last night I got a 97% Upvote - that is I put in 0.65 SBD and got out $1.25.

Investing to gain upvote value works in two ways, first off if you keep making more on your invested money you are increasing your SBD and Steem Power faster. And getting more upvotes also will get your post onto the Hot List and give it more scope for real people to see and enjoy - maybe follow you and support you more in future. But you have to be careful with the Bots, do your homework - visit the bots wallet before you use it and see who has been sending what value to it - and then view their posts to see how well they got a good return.

You don’t have to pay for upvotes though, some are free and easy. First off you can just reply to your own post and mention @originalworks - and it will confirm your work is original and give you a bonus upvote. Also in your post include your location tag - this is mine !steemitworldmap 53.766547 lat -1.801500 long Bradford, West Yorkshire, United Kingdom. d3scr

This is mine, just change the lattitude and longitude to your own and the physical location text to your own.

The MinnowSupport group are awesome and should be a big one in your arsenal, read more here http://minnowsupportproject.org you need to open a Discord account and then view this page https://discordapp.com/channels/319885228464406528/319885497428344832

Wait at least an hour from creating a new post, then post a message as you will see others do with $upvote yourposturl
The two bots should confirm the upvotes, if one does not upvote wait a day and try again. It’s well worth it, you get around 20 upvotes and while the value is not massive it all helps.

And it’s not just Bot’s that will help you out, I forget how I found https://steemit.com/upvote/@larryphang/mini-power-up-free-upvote-for-followers but he’s well worth following, upvoting an commenting on. More importantly, for a nominal transfer of 0.02 SBD transfer he will upvote the post link you send him, and from experience also comment and resteem. Personally I save him for special posts (maybe this one) because if you flood him with requests I’m sure he would start ignoring quickly - remember this is a real person not a bot. But I think the concept is outstanding, and I want to use it once I can recover my upvote power and get it to the point it makes a difference to people.

Finally the best value to promote your posts is the Resteem bots, these are

22 hours ago Transfer 0.002 SBD to resteem.bot https://steemit.com/photography/@c0ff33a/giving-tigger-a-run-for-his-money-at-oxygen-trampoline-park
22 hours ago Transfer 0.002 SBD to resteemr https://steemit.com/photography/@c0ff33a/giving-tigger-a-run-for-his-money-at-oxygen-trampoline-park
22 hours ago Transfer 0.050 SBD to resteembot https://steemit.com/photography/@c0ff33a/giving-tigger-a-run-for-his-money-at-oxygen-trampoline-park

As you can see the first two are very good value, resteembot requires you send your reputation value - ie mine is 50 so I sent 0.050 - adjust this to your reputation.

To conclude we don’t have to slog away creating post after post on Steemit that rewards little, what you do after your post to it is nearly as important as the post itself. And you don’t need to have unlimited funds available to give your post a boost - free and very inexpensive services are available to get you more reward for your work. And you can use the transparency of Steemit to see what you favourite posters did to replicate it - if you view my wallet https://steemit.com/@c0ff33a/transfers you can see what I have been sending to various bots and how I did out of it - draw your own conclusions.

A future post from me will include plug in sites - where you can further improve your posts, and followers even using separate web sites that link to Steemit.

If you enjoyed my post don’t forget to leave an Upvote, feel free to comment on what you liked or where I can do better even. Follow @c0ff33a for regular and varied posts, photography, my weekly VLOG, posts on coffee roasting and brewing - just follow and see.

JoinSteamfollower and get upvotes in return for upvotes
https://steemfollower.com/?r=158
It’s free, simple, easy to find new content to upvote and get your own content seen by more users and possibly upvoted.

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Thanks for being awesome, such a great idea for a service. I'm being restrained and only going to send you my best posts to upvote.

A super impressive post buddy. You seem to have really gained a fair bit of knowledge on here now. Keep up the good work but don’t forget to keep the vlogs going too 👌

The Vlogs are a big part of my steemit posts now Bob, embedding my YouTube videos to my posts gives me a double gain back. But it helps a ton if you have a bit of free funds to promote your posts on here, you get extra back but you need to put something in to get it back.

Hello Bob! Good to see you buddy!

Hi Paul. Hope you are well. Just getting a bit of a headache trying to navigate this place right now, and keep up with all the comments lol.

Yeah I agree it is not good to get an up vote worth less than you put in. Thanks for the link @cleverbot you used to show where we can see all the bots and there is a Steem Bot Tracker created by @yabapmatt that can help people bid without overbidding; hopefully if they use the tool correctly.

Thanks for dropping by and the link for Steem bot tracker - that is a new one for me and looks very useful.

I don't know, I'm a jobless 18 year old.

Calling @originalworks :)
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Nice post - thank you !

Some things I didn't know until now.

I don't offer a bot but I guess my service can also be very interesting for people who want to grow here in Steemit.com.

I would be quiet happy if you can mention it in one of your posts ;)

I have made a note of your service and it will indeed feature in a future post.

Yes, you are welcome ;)

Great post @c0ff33a! Keep up the good job!

All this posting is making me sweat my friend, I'm a bit behind with your comments but I will get to them when I can. Your upvotes are on Auto though so I always have your back on them as one of my greatest supporters ;-) Keep on steeming buddy :-)

Well I love coffee!!! Lol
For real I do appreciate your daily support too! You are very kind :)!

Awesome post, it seems that I've begun to see an upswing in posts about the voting bots....my only concern is that now that more and more people are being shown how to use the bots, it will result in over-saturation of the market and it'll be a lot more frustrating to use the bots as everyone is just going to start bidding at the maximum profitable window...

I actually just recently got into using the bots to try to help boost my visibility...it seemed to really work well for my recent MSP post.

Yes, I noticed an increase in these sort of posts but I had already planned this one and I do think the important thing to take away is that anyone can promote their own post - with free or paid tools. Thanks for dropping by and leaving a comment.

It is quite the important thing. There's a lot of negative stigma attached to using the upvote bots, but honestly, in this current oversaturated sea of posts, where even a post as young as 5 minutes will just get buried under the flood of newer posts...it's all that some people can do in order to try to get their post seen. Thank you for responding to my comment! :)

I have to say my friend, you know how to work them like no one else lol.
BTW you have never seemed in the least bit shy or awkward to me. Just sayin, I think you interact marvelously.

You have caught me out Paul, I am well behind on commenting on your posts and I have a Hank video and a few others to watch too. I would not say shy, I did Barista coffee making training on Tuesday night for 8 staff of a Bistro - with age I learned how to speak to a group and pass on knowledge and guidance. The problem is it's forced and not natural - I will interact with people but I don't love doing it and would mostly be happier sat with my own thoughts.

Oh never bother with watching old Hank. He is pretty much a one trick pony as we say here lol.

Say maybe you can help me with what to do. I have had several folks on YouTube say I should do a tutorial on using Steemit. To me I dont know what to do actually lol. I mean it seems if you can use Facebook or YouTube, you can use Steemit. Any thoughts, being as you are newer than me?

Lot’s of thoughts on that Paul - but it’s nearly midnight in the UK now so I’ll follow up tomorrow. Certainly part of it is in this very post - I am sure we can make something awesome for your YouTube.

Sounds good, bud. Sleep well.

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This is really interesting, I've tried using bots before and made a loss. Since then I've been wary of these bots even though I hear some guys do make profit.

I'll be trying out some more bots because of the way you've explained it here. I really enjoyed reading this, keep up the good work

It is easy to send money to a Bot at the wrong time, and not get the full value you sent back even let alone gaining more. Try this list https://s3.amazonaws.com/yabapmatt/bottracker/bottracker.html#bid<< it shows you the maximum bid to send for the various bid bots so you do not send bids when they are already at capacity. If it says 0 for bid don't bid, if it has a value that is the maximum - you don't have to send the maximum anything between 0 and the Maximum will do - but don't send more then the maximum or you won't get the benefit back.

Thank for this man, I checked out the tool you recommended and it seems it just might be the solution I've been looking for... More updates on how it works out.... Cheers, you rock

I have to admit this one of the best posts I have come across steemit.com. Very informative about bots and tools to get upvotes. Yes, most of us have to do thatto gain some value to our posts, but I think once we start getting reputation and folloers who are intereted in our content, then we can get more value. Resteemed and upvoted.

Thank you for the upvote and comment, I'm trying to create different and informative posts with my own spin - sometimes it works better then others. From my experience it seems whatever you post can quickly get lost in the rapid pace of posts on Steemit - using the Bot's gives your post a Kick which makes it more visible and helps you gain rewards it is worth.

That's 100% true. Many posts for each refresh. But, as your post shows, if you write good content, people will recognise you, just that we need to take help of bots ;)

As a Steemit newbie, I am still unsure whether to get these bots or not. But I will read your post again once I am ready to explore.

See the link and comment I left @gotgame - it is worth even sending small amounts to the bots to give your post a bit of a kick start. Investing in your posts helps alot - my blog is testament to that you can see exactly when I started using them and how my post values increased because of it.

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I don't know, but what I know during those days when steemit had just started, the community is so active. You can feel people around unlike today, robots are on the move.

This was posted 6 months ago whereas it is my 2nd week in steemit and I am still trying to figure out how bidbots work. I didn't know about resteem bots and larryphang's program.

This post was an eyeopener about a lot of stuff that I feel foolish not having any clue about!

And the ordeal of being an introvert is real in my case too!

Thanks for this useful post!