Exactly one month ago when I first started on Steemit, I was given a blank canvas on which to craft my profile page, a FAQ page which might as well have been written in hieroglyphics and a shiny number 25 next to my username.
After anxiously waiting a day to be accepted into Steemit, I thought I had hit the jackpot. I hadn't even written a single comment and I was already starting from Level 25? I was jumping for joy and high-fiving imaginary friends until my eyes landed on the Trending page and spotted several users with reputation scores over Level 70! Although I was karate-chopped back to reality pretty quickly, I had nonetheless realized that it would require a lot of hard work to get to the top of the mountain.
But the journey to the highest reputation score would be worth more than anything else. Why? Because your reputation score is the single most important factor in determining your success on Steemit!
Let's do some math!
Before we get into some arithmetic and algebra, I need to tell you that your reputation score comes in two flavors – a simplified score and a raw score. The simplified score is the whole number score you usually see next to your name. It is also available as a decimal score on sites such as steemd.com and steemwhales.com. Your reputation score is also represented as a raw score – this number is usually on the order of billions and trillions, which are generally called Reputation Points or REP. The REP is the number used by the Steem blockchain and if you have ever played around with steem.cool, you will be able to see how many REP are needed to get to the next reputation score.
Now, let’s see how we can use the equation for reputation score – which you can find in the Steem whitepaper – to both calculate your simplified score and use your simplified score to calculate how many REP are needed to get to the next level.
Starting with your REP, you must:
- Compute log(REP)
- Subtract 9
- Multiply by 9
- And add 25
- Round the result down to the nearest whole number and you have your simplified score!
As a new user to Steemit, you start out with 1 billion REP. Thus by using the above formula, your starting reputation score is 25. The math checks out!
Now what if you already know your simplified score and wish to figure out how many REP are needed to get to the next level? Well, we will have to use the converse of the above formula and calculate the REP for Level 50.3 (my current level) and the REP for Level 51 (the next level) and subtract the two results.
By the way, here’s the formula to get from the simplified score to the raw score or REP:
- Subtract 25 from the simplified score
- Divide by 9
- Add 9
- Raise 10 to the power equal to the result of the last step (e.g. 10^n)
Using this formula, we get a REP of 647,308,203,701 for Level 50.3 and a REP of 774,263,682,681 for Level 51.
When we subtract the two REP values, we determine that the REP needed to get from Level 50.3 to Level 51 is 126,955,478,980.
If my math made your eyes glaze over, you can always use steem.cool to approximately determine the amount of REP needed to get to the next level!
Only upvotes from higher-ranked users increase your reputation score
Okay, so we know the relationship between REP and reputation score – but how does that help us at all? What if we want to know what actions – posting, commenting, curating or upvotes – are needed to get to the next reputation score? How does that factor into the equation?
An excellent question which I can answer pretty easily – only upvotes from higher ranked users can raise your REP and thus help you get to the next level! Not the number of times you post nor the amount of Steem Power (SP) that you have in your account. Only the number of higher-ranked upvotes matter for your Reputation Score!
You’ll notice that I mention “higher-ranked upvotes” because only upvotes coming from users with either a higher reputation score or greater SP will change your REP and get you closer to the next level. Thus, if you are at level 50 and you get 100 upvotes from newbies all at Level 25, your REP wouldn’t budge at all. It will take upvotes from higher-ranked Steemians to increase your REP, billions at a time!
Moreover, if you get a 100% vote from a higher-ranked Steemian, you will get to the next level much faster because this will earn you even more REP; depending on the rank and the amount of SP held by the voter, one vote could easily signify an increase of 50-100 billion REP!
Reputation depends only on your content not on the money in your bank!
Regardless of how much Steem Power you have in your wallet, that won’t make any difference to your reputation score. Your reputation score will only depend on the number of upvotes you get from higher-ranked users. Thus, your money has nothing to do with your reputation. Only your blood, sweat and tears determines how high you rise in reputation at Steemit. Depending only on the quality of your content, other users, preferably higher-ranked users, will read your content and decorate it continuously with more upvotes.
However, here is an interesting tidbit. Do you remember when I said that only upvotes from higher ranked users increase your REP and thus advance your reputation score? These higher ranked users will often have more Steem Power and thus the weight of their upvote will significantly increase your REP.
Hence, the amount of Steem Power in YOUR wallet doesn’t increase your reputation score – the amount of Steem Power held by YOUR VOTERS directly increases your reputation score!
Downvotes can zap your reputation into oblivion
Unfortunately, it’s not all sunshine and rainbows due to certain folks in our community that continue to plagiarize entire articles from the Web and often times from other Steemians in order to get cheap upvotes. For these punks, Steemit has a downvoting system which allows you to identify whoever is plagiarizing, spamming, promoting hate speech or abusing other users and downvote their post.
Since your reputation score is also a function of the amount of downvotes you have accumulated, if you get enough downvotes on your posts, your reputation score can actually drop. There are some users that have been flagged so many times for plagiarism and abuse that their reputation scores have nosedived into single digits and their posts are now invisible. No one can comment or even see their posts now – basically, these guys are finished!
Moreover, Steemians can also enlist the help of Steemcleaners and Cheetah in order to report users that are spamming their links all over the platform as well as constantly plagiarizing. If these repeat offenders are caught and punished, their reputation scores are actually shishkabobed into negative values! BOOM ROASTED!
Keep an eye on your reputation and you'll go far!
Take a look at the users with the highest reputation scores on Steemit and notice what they all have in common – they all have enormous amounts of Steem Power! These users are being rewarded for devoting a significant amount of hours each day to produce high-quality content useful and informative for all. It’s no surprise that it is reputation score alone that helps you earn the most rewards on Steemit.
Sure if you already hit the crypto lottery and invested all of your funds initially into Steem Power, you will have a lot of money in your wallet. But if you don’t create any posts, your reputation score will stay frozen at 25. Heck, it might even fall to single digits if you choose to do naughty things on Steemit – it doesn’t matter how rich you are!
Keep this in mind as you contemplate the overall importance of reputation score: A rich person can very easily become poor, but the hardest working person will always be the richest!
So keep building that reputation and who knows? One day, you might just be the first Steemian to get to Level 100!
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Until next time, keep acing life!
Resteemed and Following you Ace .... HolySmoke! This is good information !
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Thanks for reading @primal-buddhist and thanks a ton for the resteem and follow!
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More POWER !!!! thank you !!
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really great article and hopefully will help everyone!!! reputation score goes up slowly after 50!! but its worth it!! :))
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Thanks so much for reading Alla! Reputation score is very important on Steemit and so worth it! :)
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I have more respect to higher level steemit users after I have read this article. Also I felt desperate. Anyway thanks for sharing to show us the cruel truth :)
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indeed it is
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I went from 57 to 58 in just over a week! 🎉
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Congratulations! This post has been upvoted from the communal account, @minnowsupport, by Ace from the Minnow Support Project. It's a witness project run by aggroed, ausbitbank, teamsteem, theprophet0, and someguy123. The goal is to help Steemit grow by supporting Minnows and creating a social network. Please find us in the Peace, Abundance, and Liberty Network (PALnet) Discord Channel. It's a completely public and open space to all members of the Steemit community who voluntarily choose to be there.
If you like what we're doing please upvote this comment so we can continue to build the community account that's supporting all members.
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This post received a 1.6% upvote from @randowhale thanks to @cerebralace! For more information, click here!
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Does this mean that RandoWhale increases your Rep ???
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interessing thanks for sharing
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Thanks @machhour!
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nice one thx so much
i have been seen that number growing lots this days i been just a month in steemit
i can understand what its that little number in the right hahah
thx so much for the info i will be glad if you like to see me dancing in my blog and help sharing your influence
have a good life
Val
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You're welcome @valblomqvist and I must say, you are quite the talented dancer ;) Keep it up and watch your reputation score skyrocket - like the price of BTC!
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It does not make sense, you can grow youre rep by getting vote's of people with an rep higher then yours right?
How to grow further if you have the highest rep?
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After read your article,I know the value of reputation score. Thank you.
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Rep is still something I haven't figured out... Mine's 67.9 I think... I don't worry too much about it. Someday it may hit 70, maybe not. I just worry about one thing... writing stuff people want to read.
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That's a great advice for everyone on Steemit. Focus on producing cool things you wish to read yourself and everything will even out automatically. Thanks for reading Rich!
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Wow, I've been on here a couple weeks and I didn't even know all this! My reputation is 44, and I'm working on slowly getting it higher :)
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Welcome @raptorman and thanks for reading! I'm glad you learned something from my post and I wish you much success on Steemit. And nice username by the way!
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You as well :)
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Thanks!
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Very nice article!. Particularly I found your post very interesting and helpful!
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Thanks @javierlandaeta! I'm glad you found it helpful!
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this was so interesting!!! I didn't know votes from highest ranked users is what helped you to increase, I always kind of thought it was the amount that you post :)
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Thanks for reading @hannalicious! After playing around a ton with steem.cool, I observed that each time I received an upvote from someone ranked higher than me, I received an automatic increase of 1 billion or more REP. This is what actually helped me advance even faster to the next level.
On the flip side, I post a lot each day - more comments than blog posts - and while I earn pretty decent on blog posts and comments, the amount of times I post doesn't affect my REP. Thus based on my personal experience, my experiments with steem.cool and after PMing some of the whales, I came to the conclusion that higher-ranked upvotes make the greatest difference of all!
My next job is to figure out if there is a way to calculate how many higher-ranked upvotes are needed to get to the next reputation score. The experiment is ongoing and the result should hopefully come soon! :)
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yeah super interesting!! yeah I should start commenting a lot more. If only we didn't have jobs to go to and could spend all day on steemit haha :)
That would be really interesting to see :) I unfortunately dont have such a mathematical brain like you so I would love to see it if you manage to conclude your experiment!!
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You should definitely spend some time with comments and be sure to leave comments on posts of some of the more philanthropic writers like trevonjb, craig-grant, aggroed, acidyo, allasyummyfood - all amazing content creators who love to reward great comments! But I know exactly what you mean - not enough hours in the day to spend on Steemit because of our day jobs!
There are a lot of awesome tools being built by some super smart people in the community, which helps a ton with determining things like voting percentage, weight, etc. That's what I'm using right now and hoping that my math leads me in the right direction. If everyone on here can benefit from my little experiment, I'll be as happy as a clam! :)
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Why wouldn't everyone upvote the positive comments on their post... esp. if you know they Resteemed ... Seems like a decent thing to do... Just sayin.. ; )
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Nice article, didn't know most about these stuff.
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Thanks @deveerei - I learned a lot just from playing around with steem.cool and analyzing the Steem blockchain code in GitHub.
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Great read! Resteemed!
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Thanks for the support @philippinetrail!
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Very interesting read. Only open question - if you are the very top of the REP heap, how does your reputation get higher?
Must be something missing from your equation to address this special case.
STEEM On !!
Dave
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Thanks @davebrewer. I think it might have been @dantheman who wrote a post a while back stating that the maximum possible reputation score achievable is 100. Thus, the maximum possible REP for Level 100 is roughly 2 x 10^17!
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this still does not answer what he asked..
I was wondering the same. How do the guy at Reputation (Number 1) keep going up when there is no one above him to upvote?
I think even a lower vote matters it just takes long to equate the vote a higher ranked would give
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Great post! I did not know that an upvote from a higher-leveled user was the only way your rep score could go up. I assumed commenting, upvoting and just using Steemit in general did it too! Thanks!
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Thanks for reading @vegansilverstack! I thought the same way when I first started but continuous experiments with steem.cool and some probing around with the Steem blockchain code made me realize that higher-level upvotes made all the difference!
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Great post!
I did know that the Rep score was important but never had explained the way you have in this post.
Good job!
Looking forward to more from you.
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Thanks @probizranker! Just learning along with everyone else. I hope to bring you guys more useful and helpful content - stay tuned!
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Cool post! Thanks for the knowlege!
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You're very welcome @maygarcia!
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What if you have the highest rep in Steemit? So it's impossible to go up? haha
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I think the highest possible REP is reached when you get to Level 100. No one has gotten there yet to tell the tale so to be continued lol
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Finally, an explanation about REP. Lots of people right about upvoting, commenting and resteeming. This is the first article I've seen in my time here that talked about what causes your REP to go up, or down.
Thank you for helping us to understand.
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Thank you for educating me @cerebralace.
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You're welcome @croat!
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This post has received a 4.19 % upvote from @booster thanks to: @cerebralace.
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Thanks for the clear explanation on reputations :)
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You're welcome @samrg472!
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Great investigation , thank you for charing 😁
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You're welcome @evie5el!
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There is so much to learn. I feel like an inchworm, but I love it here at steemit. Great to meet you @cerebralace. Followed and upvoted.
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You're very welcome @sallykwitt - STEEM ON!
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Hey! Thanks for this great article !
I am so obsessed with my rep score at this moment... Just want to hit the 60. But the journey is so long..... :-D Wish you all the but! To the moon (and beyond :-)).
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Whoa, I did not know that the user had to be of higher score O.o, thanks for telling me!!
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No problem @helpingothers - we're all learning together, one day at a time!
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This article was so helpful for me.
I already knew that the reputation is important, but not how much in reality. Your article showed me the true weight of this topic.
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Thank you So MUCH! it was very helpful for me as a newbie!! i am so following you.. i appreciate your time taken to make this post! have a nice day sir!
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You're welcome @soykatonline! I'm glad it was helpful - STEEM ON!
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Thank you.. ut really was! . @steem-untalented
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Hi @cerebralace, we visit you with our tinnie winnie upvote and give your our "seal of awesomeness" as you have been determined by a human @soykatonline, to be gifted.
Welcome to the #untalented family, where everyone is seen as possessing of rare gem
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Very nice and long and interesting article. thanks a lot!!
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Ive been on the interwebs since MS dos Ive scratched my way to near the top of every place Ive ever posted. Reputation means nothing. Its all about a loyal following and interacting and supporting them. And not walking on eggshells and not calling out wrong doers.
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Thanks for reading @woodywood143. Having a loyal following is important everywhere you go but having a high reputation score is especially important here on Steemit.
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I read today somewhere that the reputation score is not a reflection of what your peers think of you, rather its a automated score given to you regardless of what you do here as long as you contribute.
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Your Steemit reputation score is a direct reflection of the amount of upvotes (and downvotes) you receive from higher ranked users. The code for the reputation score is actually documented in the Steemit whitepaper as well as in the Steemit GitHub.
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read this its a algorithm based on your participation not what anyone thinks of you. https://steemit.com/steemit/@digitalnotvir/how-reputation-scores-are-calculated-the-details-explained-with-simple-math
[STILL A WAY TO GO FOR NEXT REP POINT! 48%] Just by commenting without any upvotes that 48% will increase
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agree look what happened to me
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I am a newbie on steemit, Its just been 2 days that i have joined this community and now my reputation is increased to 32. I wanted to say thanks to you man. Now I know what to do more to get to the top..!!!
Have a nice day brother.!!
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I wish I could resteem this. Amidst all this controversy that's going on right now I think people really need to read this post. Thank you for writing this, it gives some faith and reassurance to me that the steemit system is not that broken! Even though it's being severely misused right now.
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thank you for this very insightful article for reputation. :)
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Question from a newbie. Are there any potential hidden REP penalties (e.g. not being active enough, too much self-voting, etc.)? Using the information in your article and the sites you referred to, I'm getting the result that I've lost over 60% of my initial REP points (currently have about 387M) even though I have received zero downvotes. Or perhaps is there something that I'm misreading in these statistics?
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Welcome @doughtaker! There are no hidden penalties to your REP from not being active enough or too much self-voting. If you're not active enough, your reputation score will simply stay the same. If you vote a lot on your own posts and comments, you will simply reward yourself proportional to the amount of SP you have. Your REP and reputation score will not decrease unless you are flagged for any violations (plagiarism, abuse, spamming etc.)
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Thanks @cerebralace It's really helpful post
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thanks a lot @cerebralace for your time and effort in the post.
It really is helpful.
Cheers.
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Hi! This is an excellent analysis on a Steemian's REP score. I wish there's a resteem, fave, or save button for me to share & reference it. Still, thanks @cerebralace for the informative post.
Check out #LoveBooster daily for a dose of love & inspirational stuff.
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Still an very relivent article six months later. I guess I'm doing pretty good for almost a month on Steemit. Today my rep# is 41. Still have less than 12 steempower in the bank, but that will grow in time too.
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Of all the how-to steemit articles I've read so far this was clearly the most important. Many thanks!
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There is so much to consider, but the one thing is always the same. Keep working and keep working hard and that is a calming thought. Sure, there are individuals, who are cruising through life and are lucky as ****, but most successful people earned it and I intend to do the same.
Thank you for an excellent post.
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usefull and simple for noob like me,thanks for posting it
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Thank you for this Blog Post, I am new to Steemit But I made my IntroduceYourself Post and noticed the number went Higher. After reading your post it makes perfects sense to understand the community would reward those who contribute and chastise those who are the source of difficulty.
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So ... at the risk of definitely being downvoted over here ... this sounds like we're effectively all being judged on our level of agreement with people who already agree with themselves. That seems like it would horribly increase the whole echo-chamber problem. And look around ... almost every post on steemit as it is, is about steemit, and how to game it.
Something about this whole reputation system is just sort of wrong.
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Helpful write-up! This sheds some light on how reputation works. Thanks!
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Now i understand the meaning of the number beside my username...
Thanks for the clarification.
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I've been looking for this. Great content. Thank you.
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Good article. Keep it up! I'm new to Steemit and I wonder, where I can see my Raw score?
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This post is like a year ago but still helps me alot 😍
Thank you for the big help 😊
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As a newbie, I thank you.
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Thanks @cerebralace for sharing this useful article.
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Upvoted by a low minnow. Liked the article and its my way of saying thanks. Do check out my post if you have time.
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