Thoughts on Gaming the Reward Pool

clayboyn (70) in steemit • 8 years ago (edited)

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8 years ago by clayboyn (70)

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whatsup (75) · 8 years ago

I agree with some of what you wrote, but I have disagreed from the beginning that anyone will come to a site for quality content.

Name a site that you go to, because they have the best content on the web. . .

I think it is this message (quality content) and our lack of functionality that most users on the Internet expect that inhibits our growth.

We don't have communities so you have to sift through everything to find what you want. That is the problem, not that some people spam.

If I want to operate a charity there are plenty of worthy causes. I am not sure why I would choose to select the steemit community to drop charity. Not saying I wouldn't do it here, I just don't see the "cause".

Anyway, I always enjoy your position on things even when we disagree. Keep making me think.

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clayboyn (70) · 8 years ago

I don't really go to any website that I don't want to view the content on. Like Facebook or Twitter, I rarely even go to the site and never really waste much time reading or following anyone there. If people see nothing but spam they'll leave too, that's why I suggest using some of that whale power delegated to bid bots or lottery bots and actually adding long term value to the platform instead of going for a quick cash grab approach. Just my thoughts though. I can see your points as well. There are people that will strictly come to try to get money out of the platform or visit friends pages, but when it's someone that controls 20% of the reward pool spam voting their own "literally" no content posts or comments, then it's just like that 20% is actually a hindrance to growth.

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barrydutton (74) · 8 years ago

Boom, and there is another vote for some truth.

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gigafart (57) · 8 years ago (edited)

When we get the communities feature, I expect a lot more people will use Steemit for what it was designed for.

I know I'll be rewarding the real experts in the niches I'm interested in, just like I do now on Reddit and YT. I'm guessing most others will do the same. I'm optimistic this will ease a bit of the selfish behavior.

Having said that, it seems we need new algos to disincentivize the most egregious profiting. Like buying 80k SP from the loan market to spend it on self-vote spam (saw that last week). The code should make such a scheme much harder to profit from. The community can do the rest.

I think @clayboyn brings up the right concerns, but flagging / police state / warfare is something I'd want to avoid at all cost.

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netuoso (70) · 8 years ago

Maybe you could consider looking into my Witness offering and sharing a vote with me? I am trying to give back to the STEEM community with open source development and supporting projects helping other users.

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barrydutton (74) · 8 years ago

I just UV this at 100% power, and nearly doubled this post payout, because you speak a lot of honest truth, always, and today is no exception.

Also because this post contains a lot of things I have said, publicly, many times and also lost support by large accounts on.

And as such your post here is undervalued.

I am tempted to send you some SBD tonite also, so no flags can steal the rewards from you on this post.

You are always worth a large vote to me, because you speak so many things, that need to be said more.

Thank you for being a decent human being man, you know how I feel.

33 views on this, is a travesty and it only had $5 before my vote, also a travesty.

This long term view and so many things I have said myself, need to be said daily.

You are a beaut buddy. +1

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clayboyn (70) · 8 years ago

Thanks for the support @barrydutton. I really wish more people would stop viewing each other as a meal ticket and start considering how to exist in a mutually beneficial way. I don't really care if it gets flagged to be honest. I'd rather have integrity than a few bucks any day.

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barrydutton (74) · 8 years ago

#BroHug

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roykattoussi (44) · 8 years ago

realm of the mad god player? btw nice post. because i dont have much i always upvote 100%

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clayboyn (70) · 8 years ago

Once upon a time I was pretty heavy into it. :) Thanks!

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arekwolf (53) · 8 years ago

Well put. There are too many talented newcomers to this platform who put out some great content, then grow bitter seeing subpar posts collecting hundreds of views and $ while their own posts are passing unrewarded, and finally slacken off in their efforts or quit altogether.

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barrydutton (74) · 8 years ago (edited)

I wanted to check on this post.

Still Under voted.

Still under valued.

Still not enough eyes on it but more needed to read and vote for this.

Nite buddy.

I am glad to see some of the people I sent this to voted.

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clayboyn (70) · 8 years ago

some people get it, some don't, trying to focus on the positive :)

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isaac.rodebush (54) · 8 years ago

On point thoughts @clayboyn

wee need to keep the end in mind to provide the longterm health to the community!
Best,
Isaac

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pepe.maya (65) · 8 years ago

Absolutely agree with you!

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apolymask (67) · 8 years ago

Well said clayboyn. I totally agree with you, and thus I don't have much in terms of a thoughtful response to leave.. But.. I support what you've said and hopefully we(the people of steemit in general) can steer things in a better direction.

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battleaxe (69) · 8 years ago

Gonna be interesting, that's about all I'll say , lol

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omwith (59) · 8 years ago

Thanks for this!!! This is actually what I have been feeling since I joined the community. What is the incentive of writing quality content posts, if then you only get few cents?
Most new users get bored....I often feel I'm wasting my precious time.
I must say I truly believe in Steemit, but to be honest, if things do not change, I will stop buying steems with money from my pocket to be invested here!

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clayboyn (70) · 8 years ago

Flags started going out today, not happy about it because it gets petty, but something has to change.

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