Steemit Exclusive: Larken Rose On Steem And How It Is Helping Power The Mirror Project

daut44 (63) · 8 years ago (edited)

Steemit's structure creates a mostly troll free environment.

This is a huge plus, but one mitigating thing is a lack of raw dissenting opinions (you probably disagree due to the backlash on a couple of your posts, but the majority of the posts on this site contain milktoast agreeing responses due to the nature of economics and people not wanting to put more time and effort into something with likely as great a reward as they can receive in a few short words). Many of the commenters simply drop a substance-free praise hoping for some upvotes from the whale or semi-whale author.

But appreciate you educating the masses on steem, gave your video a like on youtube and left a comment.

With regards to this game, is there any website we can visit? I tried googling "the mirror project" but the only thing that came up was a site posting pictures off reflective surfaces lol

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churdtzu (68) · 8 years ago

For me personally, I know I'm still willing to disagree with someone on Steemit, but I'm also acutely aware of my tone when I do it. Even if I do strongly agree with someone, I might start by talking about the things we do agree on, or with a compliment, or wishing them a good day. It's made me realise that, for years, I've been really annoying every time I leave a strong comment.

Here are a couple of videos relating to the mirror

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sigmajin (65) · 8 years ago

Agree completely... this i s something others have noticed. people call it the circlejerk. There is allegedly a movement away from this, but it is heavily incentivized in the current system.

side note: Have really enjoyed your posts.... I actually played professionally for many years (though i eventually went over to the business side of the gambling industry)

daut44 (63) · 8 years ago

Oh yeah? What did you play and what did you transition over to?

sigmajin (65) · 8 years ago (edited)

I played mostly LO8, live and online (stars and tilt). For most of the time between the UIGEA and BF i was a reg at the 30-60LO8 game and the 40-80 mix game at the B. No, im not 80.

I was an OK nlhe player but given a choice between that and practically any other game, my choice was almost always the other game. Esepcially online, from the uigea onward i really felt kind of outclassed in NLHE on stars and tilt.

Post uigea, i was also involved in helping people get money on and off the major sites. Post black friday, i ran a vpn network. that led to helping start a DNM and a bunch of other highly lucrative, somewhat shady stuff,. Now im an attorney, which is what i went to school for. I mostly help off shore business establish a presence in the US.

linked my intro post with some of my back story:
https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@sigmajin/attorney-gambler-businessman-and-soon-to-be-former-steem-ian

sigmajin (65) · 8 years ago (edited)

Just as a side note, if the steemit circle jerk reminds me of anything from the poker universe, it was the lovefest you usually saw with regard to full tilt poker and its management and administration on forums like 2p2, p5s and full tilts own forum from about 2008 until black friday.

churdtzu (68) · 8 years ago

Re: Jeff's comment about making thousands of dollars per post

When the price of Steem took one of its first big surges, from around 25c to $4, we started to see some huge payouts... One of them was for a make-up tutorial which made about $25k, much to the chagrin and confusion of certain people on Steemit.

The thing is, it's true that the more people join Steemit, the less Steem there will be to distribute. However, it's also true that the more people join, the more demand there is for Steem, and the higher the price. Perhaps we'll see the rewards stay the same, but we might even see them go up. Imagine if Steemit were paying out $10 MM a day, with 500k users... could happen.

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dollarvigilante (76) · 8 years ago

This is true @churdtzu, and something I hadn't fully considered. If demand for Steem keeps up with growth of the audience then it should not result in lower payouts. The distribution of those payouts could become more widely diversified though (and that is quite likely), which could result in the top earners today earning less on a percentage basis.

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fuzzyvest (62) · 8 years ago

this ^

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sigmajin (65) · 8 years ago

The thing is, it's true that the more people join Steemit, the less Steem there will be to distribute. However, it's also true that the more people join, the more demand there is for Steem, and the higher the price.

this isnt necessarily true. Why would someone joining steemit need or want to buy steem?

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fuzzyvest (62) · 8 years ago

the likelihood is high that they will choose to get steem if they find it preferable to creating content to earn it.

For instance...a Dr. who makes $200k per year might want to give back to people who they think write amazing content, but not have the time (nor inclination) to write their own content. This is a prime candidate for the type of person who might like steem.

or someone who is running a record label...

Many cases where it is worthwhile to buy steem to have influence in the network.

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sigmajin (65) · 8 years ago (edited)

the likelihood is high that they will choose to get steem if they find it preferable to creating content to earn it.

this presumes that they see utility in it commensurate with the investment. No such utility exists.

As i said in my reply to chrudtzu, i think its incredibly optimistic to believe that people will invest a huge sum for a very tiny amount of influence. I certainly wouldnt, and ive owned and run several businesses. The doctor who makes 200K a year can't really afford me, but the doctor who makes 10x that might be a client. Im the guy he goes to to find out if an investment is on the up and up.

Even absent due diligence, your doctor example just doesnt make sense. You think hes going to buy steem for the purposes of rewarding content that's published on steemit.... lets assume he he invests his entire annual salary in steem at the current price point.

Hell get about what 140K steem.... so the "reward" hell be able to distribute to this valuable content would be about two bucks. you go make that pitch, see how its recieved.

Yes, i understand that there are people who have invested money. Many (like me) already regret it (i powered up 5500 steem or so shortly after i sold the bulk of my investment in the currency)

the strongest argument against your position is simply the reality of where the price is at and where it seems to be going. Now i know there are several well-"price-hype" propaganda types on the front page every day. Maybe the whales who upvote them even believe the hype.

I just wonder if theres a reality check in the furure where you guys realize that, as things stand, people don't want to buy what you got to sell.

Im not saying this to be a douche or a hater. I actually like steem as an idea, and its already made me quite a bit of money as an investor if not as a writer. At least at one point, i thought that steem was a good enough idea to take $40k out of pocket and invest it in the currency.

At the end of the day, getting people to buy steem is about delivering utility in exchange for money. youre just not offering enough utility

churdtzu (68) · 8 years ago

I didn't say they would necessarily buy Steem; I said there would be more demand, and this is true for a few reasons.

Firstly, when they start curating or writing content, they're going to receive some Steem dollars or Steem power. The fact that they're holding that currency, and not giving it away for free, is demand. Holding is demand just as much as buying is demand.

Secondly, the more people join, the more valuable Steem becomes, because Steem can help buy people's attention. Attention is valuable, because it allows you to have influence over people's opinions.

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sigmajin (65) · 8 years ago (edited)

Firstly, when they start curating or writing content, they're going to receive some Steem dollars or Steem power. The fact that they're holding that currency, and not giving it away for free, is demand. Holding is demand just as much as buying is demand.

No, just people earning SP and holding it is not demand, at least not in the economics sense as effecting price (which is the context in which you used it). Just people earning steem and not selling it won't increase price. (if they did sell it, it would decrease the price, but if they earn it and just hold it it won't have any effect on price.)

Secondly, the more people join, the more valuable Steem becomes, because Steem can help buy people's attention. Attention is valuable, because it allows you to have influence over people's opinions.

You can't really buy peoples attention with steem. Not unless youre willing to buy a couple million dollars worth. You seriously think someone is going to buy thousands of dollars worth of steem so that their vote can go from a tiny fraction of a cent in value to a slightly larger fraction of a cent in value? thats kind of optimistic

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churdtzu (68) · 8 years ago

No, just people earning SP and holding it is not demand, at least not in the economics sense as effecting price (which is the context in which you used it).

I disagree, and if you'll allow me, I'd like to make the case why holding is indeed demand in the economic sense of affecting price.

If people didn't hold gold, but instead threw it out in the street or in their garbage collection, would it affect the price or not? It would mean that the available supply would increase significantly. The fact that people were willing to throw it out without receiving any money for it, would mean that $0 was an acceptable price for them. If there were other people who did put a non-zero price on gold, any pricing mechanism would have to account for this increase in the supply.

Or to look at it another way, if the largest gold producer in the world decided, instead of selling their gold, that they were going to hold onto all of it, would that affect the price or not?

To put it yet another way, if you bought something and then immediately and extravagantly gave it away for free, flooding the market, how would that affect the price? If you buy, but do not hold, is that really a stable, established demand?

Yet one more way of looking at it, is that, if everyone in the world decided that they didn't want to hold gold, but to sell it, how would that affect the price of gold? Surely if they want to sell it, that must mean a decrease in demand, and an increase in supply, and therefore, the price will go down.

Whether you're buying something or holding something, the effect is the same - a decrease in supply available for purchase. If something is worth enough to you that you take the time to secure it, you are exerting effort to maintain it. So, from one perspective, that means you are constantly "buying" that commodity.

You can't really buy peoples attention with steem. Not unless youre willing to buy a couple million dollars worth.

If a couple of million dollars' worth buys a large amount of attention, then ten thousand dollars' worth must buy a small amount of attention. With the amount of Steem power I have, if I look at a post with say 5-10 comments, I can normally decide which comment is going to be at the top. I can also decide which comments will be at the bottom, though normally I abstain from exercising that right. If a company has an advertising budget of millions of dollars, and they understand this technology, do you think it would be worthwhile to invest tens of thousands of dollars in Steem so they can have that kind of influence? Especially considering that, using Steem power, they can upvote their own posts, giving themselves more capital while expending very little energy.

u seriously think someone is going to buy thousands of dollars worth of steem so that their vote can go from a tiny fraction of a cent in value to a slightly larger fraction of a cent in value? thats kind of optimistic

It's not optimistic; it's reality. I can name a few cases of people doing this. For me personally, I could have cashed out some Steem dollars, but instead decided to power up for $1000 or more. @dollarvigilante has done the same, with all of his Steem dollars. @cryptomarket invested 6 BTC in their account when they started.

Perhaps, instead of telling me that people aren't going to do that, you should be asking, why are they already doing that? Of course, it's not purely because they think they can buy people's attention with it, but that's definitely a factor in the equation.

Thanks for your comment and have a good one

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hrottie (54) · 8 years ago (edited)

I dont like people that say they can consantly make money here.
It is pretty annoying, because your payout depends on community actually.
But we have people here that get thousands of dollars every day at their every post, comment etc.- even if it's not so good.
for example, @fuck.off
just look there, he gets few hundred for nothing... Is it fair? I really doubt it.

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ottobox (25) · 8 years ago

Yep. No different than YouTube. First there was little payout because it was an unknown (and YouTube wasn't paying.) Then there were good payouts for early adopters with high number of views. Then more creators joined as well as watchers so the pie grew but so did the competition. Markets. You know I love 'em.

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kennyskitchen (72) · 8 years ago (edited)

Wonderful video you three! You lay it all out clean, and people watching it because of the attention on Steemit all of a sudden know about The Mirror as well :-) You're all featured in my next post, around 9am PST/noon EST tomorrow, talking a good bit about Anarchapulco, getting really excited for this winter!

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kennyskitchen (72) · 8 years ago

"The 40 anarchists you want to follow on Steemit!" is up, and @dollarvigilante, @dragonanarchist, and @larkenrose are all on the list :-) You can find it here

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dragonanarchist (64) · 8 years ago

This was a fun interview, I am excited about the possibilities behind Steemit and I can see the massive potential behind the concept it is founded on. Thanks so much, Jeff, for the opportunity to have your platform to talk about the merits of Steemit and the economic implications for the globe if such social media platforms really take off and do well.

Thanks to all who left positive or balanced feedback!

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kennyskitchen (72) · 8 years ago

Another wonderful video @dragonanarchist! That was quite the trifecta of awesome anarchists :-)

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craig-grant (75) · 8 years ago (edited)

so complicated, there's beauty in simplicity

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8 votes

paco (63) · 8 years ago (edited)

I like watching videos instead of reading. Youtube got me used to watching blogs that way :) Thank you.

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paquito (43) · 8 years ago

Youtube addict eh? Grrr....go grab a book.

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circuswerld (46) · 8 years ago

Then you may like this video I made of Larken Rose's essay The Myth Of Authority

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eric-boucher (68) · 8 years ago

May the force stay with Steem and us all: All for one and one for all! Namaste :)

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kevinwong (76) · 8 years ago

Thanks for doing this @dollarvigilante! You have no idea how many ideas for posts I've got from this one video alone lol. Keep asking the right questions, I think you have the right personality when it comes to connecting with closet anarchists (which is everyone, in my opinion).

kevinwong (76) · 8 years ago

I find the approach pretty ingenious @dragonanarchist @larkenrose , once when I was writing my book, I was thinking what's the best way to write for a group people in which aren't really on your side? I wonder if i can replicate some of the ideas that you guys have been implementing for the game. Very fascinating.. thanks for doing this!

thylbom (55) · 8 years ago

Great show, Jeff. I'm also looking forward to your upcoming conversation with Tone Vays. He's been quite vocal on Twitter about calling Steemit a ponzi scheme, and I'll listen to what he has to say... give him a chance to convince us if he thinks he has a point. We can decide...

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ateam (35) · 8 years ago (edited)

Just joined steemit and saw this post, checking out your blog now @dollarvigilante but I think I am going to like it.

Edit: Holy hells bells just checked your profile and in less than 2 weeks you made $42k on steemit....man I wished I could do that......you got it dude!

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dwinblood (73) · 8 years ago (edited)

@dollarvigilante, @larkenrose, @dragonanarchist - Another thing you may not have had happen. This platform also encourages great commenting and engagement between the content creators, and their audience. In fact, it extends the content. You can actually have people up vote your comments quite a bit. That can encourage you guys to stick around and talk to your audience. You'll make even more. @dollarvigilante has posted a couple of great posts that he didn't really stick around to talk people (I looked to see what he'd posted and he posted the blogs and kind of left). So get involved in some dialogs and you can make money doing that. I've seen @larkenrose do this and debate with people, and it was good stuff. Oh and I do recall the @larkenrose dead sea scrolls post. :) That was pretty funny. I remember my eyes going cross eyed reading that, but I up voted it too. I didn't know @dragonanarchist before steemit. I'm glad all of you are here. Now we just need more people. :)

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katyakov (63) · 8 years ago

Great to see Steemit powering such ambitious projects. And you are doing a fantastic job promoting Steemit, which all of us benefit from!

Interesting about the Mirror project itself - don't you think that it might have issues with government institutions when it reaches a certain scale?

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ericbelsey (40) · 8 years ago

Might. Might not. Issues with what might happen are no reason not to try. The federales have hassled Larken to the point of a stay in prison, but he used the time to write books. At this unique moment of an overlap of mass communication being accessible to the mass, and the crumbling of a regulatory apparatus that was never real to begin with, who can predict the future?

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katyakov (63) · 8 years ago

Definitely it's not the reason not to try. I'm just thinking if they have assessed these risks or even they had to face any issues like that already

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lukestokes (75) · 8 years ago (edited)

Great interview! Just finished it. I'm so very happy to see @larkenrose and @dragonanarchist loving this platform as much as I do. After a month or so of posting about Steemit on Facebook, it's really encouraging to know some people I'm friends with (Amanda, Sterlin, etc) may have noticed some of those posts and got curious themselves. It makes me feel special and valuable in some small way to the voluntaryism community.

Can you believe this is just getting started? The future possibilities get me so excited. My wife actually just powered up some of her blogging winnings today. Crazy! I love it. :)

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jeremyfromwi (54) · 8 years ago

This is great, I'm going to make my mom watch it. She's active on Facebook and Twitter, so I was trying to explain Steemit to her and get her to join our community. She's convinced it's some kind of scam to take all my money, lol. This should clear things up a bit.

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bbrewer (58) · 8 years ago

Please allow me to indulge myself by posing the following inquiry:

What is the inspiration for the title of the game, The Mirror?

The title is reminiscent of an intriguing practice I read about in a novel written in 1895 by John Uri Lloyd, an american pharmacist, entitled Etidorpha.

The concept behind the practice described in the book is comparable to the concept described in the video for The Mirror, which you have kindly referenced above- that is, by seeing the inner workings of your own brain, you will be changed forever.

Was there any, pray-tell, inspiration for the title of the game found in the contents of this mysterious novel?

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michaelmatthews (54) · 8 years ago

Jeff... It's great to see you getting paid finally for all the great work you do! Hey... I had a quick question. Considering steem dollars are pegged to the U.S. dollar... What happens to steem dollars if the U.S. dollar goes to zero??

https://steemit.com/money/@michaelmatthews/what-happens-if-you-re-pegged-to-something-that-goes-to-zero

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satire (52) · 8 years ago

Nice to put a face to a name.

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jeison (49) · 8 years ago (edited)

By that talk of anarchy and freedom?

Are schools we educate to grow intellectually, but morally I don't teach anything if you really want to make a change is not going to do with her ass stuck to a Chair

Look video this is freedom

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sebastianbauer (25) · 8 years ago

Great introduction to Steemit and how it supports a fantastic project. Love it!

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jimcorrao (54) · 8 years ago

Sweet bro! Make that cash and get yourself scarce. I don't want to see you get purged!

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jakemccauley (59) · 8 years ago

Excellent interview!

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quinneaker (74) · 8 years ago (edited)

On one hand it is very sad that people are so dumbed down that not only do they not know fluoride is a neurotoxin and that schools were designed to create drones but the "only" way to get through to them is via a video game~
On the other hand its awesome that they are doing this and I hope they have great success. We are in dire need of re educating the masses as they have been programmed by an institution designed to create complacent statists.
Thanks for being a bad ass and sharing this new project with us here~
I published a very valuable article title "The Truth About Money" of which shows how the fiat currency, fractional reserve system works to keep people in perpetual debt. Seems very relevant for people appreciating your content so I will share it here.
Best Regards~*~
https://steemit.com/money/@quinneaker/the-truth-about-money-what-you-need-to-know-to-free-your-self-from-perpetual-debt

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stevenlytle (41) · 8 years ago

It's not just that games are fun, so do it as a video game. The video game format offers nonlinear paths through the maze of possibilities that a linear book simply can't match.

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azurejasper (61) · 8 years ago (edited)

Lol - how many times did you click on the first image's play button?

Anyway, this sounds like an amazing project. I've started watching the video just now.

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quinneaker (74) · 8 years ago

HAHAHAHAHAHA I clicked on it 3 times and was like well FUCK it and kept reading and realize as soon as I saw the next image that the first image was just a screen shot and that the video was at the bottom!
Hahaha

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dollarvigilante (76) · 8 years ago

Sorry to cause confusion! By putting the Youtube play button on the main image, when it is shared on other networks it has a far higher chance of getting clicked on. ;)

jaytaylor (62) · 8 years ago

Yup - me too :o)

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filmaker (38) · 8 years ago

It is amazing to have so many options available to tell our stories!

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royalmacro (72) · 8 years ago

amazing video. I've learnt a good lesson

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nathanbrown (54) · 8 years ago (edited)

I live in an ecovillage (http://www.dancingrabbit.org) and share a lot of values with anarchists in many ways, but one thing I don't understand is how anarchists suggest responding to someone who is infringing on the rights of others if you don't have a state to turn to for help. How do you deal with this without a state in your ideal anarchist world?

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clevecross (59) · 8 years ago

This honestly was your best video yet..... Guests had AWESOME comment and you are really starting to understand the blockchain bit of it! I am happy man.... Never heard of you before steemit, but this was an enjoyable program. I am looking forward to what you do next.

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chessmonster (68) · 8 years ago

A great video with great guests, and hilarious to boot!

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tito-baron (48) · 8 years ago

follow u @dollarvigilante

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ultramari0 (58) · 8 years ago

i'm very poor i'm glad that this way i can still contribute via upvoting to such a fantastic project! just up and take my upvote ;)

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alexoz (59) · 8 years ago (edited)

Thanks for spreading the word! I follow you since August 2015 and now my friends think I turned crazy hahaha ;)

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acassity (61) · 8 years ago

Great work as always @dollarvigilante! Steemit is no more a scam then the US Dollar and US Debt is a scam to the country. Steemit and Bitcoin are great safe havens for your money if you are worried about the US Debt and a devaluation of the dollar.

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https://steemit.com/money/@vee.kay/u-s-federal-government-deficit-last-week

vee.kay (38) · 8 years ago

More details here!

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meteor78 (45) · 8 years ago

👍nice video, and very interesting discussion

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localether-com (35) · 8 years ago

Up voted, and I am a fan for sure. But I do think the bubble will burst with the current business model. The money is coming from the exchanges - those buying Steem with either Bitcoin or Ether (mostly Poloniex). That volume is drying up and the price of Steem is going down. Something has got to give.

That said, there is still a lot of opportunity to fix the business model and bring in other sources of income. I think an Adsense style of bidding on ad space on the website could bring in a lot of money and fund the content producers, as well as increase the price of Steem and the interest in investing further. So.... as things are now, we will see the earnings drop until the business is modified. Why not do ads? This is how FB makes their money.

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innuendo (65) · 8 years ago

These are valid concerns. Please read this post where I try to address them.

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rangertx (65) · 8 years ago

I'm excited to be here at the beginning. I always seem to get into these things too late. Not this time...

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dragonanarchist (64) · 8 years ago

Same here! Not this time! :)

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rawnetics (43) · 8 years ago

Great video @dollarvigilante. Very enjoyable. Cheers!

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driv3n (57) · 8 years ago

Steem is the place to be. It's great to be along for the ride, and great to see so many prominent people making an effort to grow awareness and change the world as we know it.

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rwgunderson (50) · 8 years ago

I love the idea of a currency created from labor, instead of debt -- this is a true debt free currency!

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randr10 (62) · 8 years ago

You made the comment in the video @dollarvigilante that the thousands per post thing might go away if the mainstream catches on to it. Isn't it possible that with the popularity of the platform, that it would increase the value of Steem to the point that, even if you're earning less in terms of the cryptocurrency, you'll still be earning a similar dollar equivalent due to its increased value?

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runridefly (72) · 8 years ago

Jeff @dollarvigilante, you're a cool cat. Always enjoy your videos. I'm going to buy you a beer one day. Best wishes.

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happyphoenix (66) · 8 years ago

NIce.. I hope this video usefull and help others to understand about steemit

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dicov (53) · 8 years ago

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anonymint (65) · 8 years ago (edited)

Jeff, I don't think you nor the people you interviewed understand my reasons why I think Steem(it) will fail. Please read the following comment trail. Your anarchy theme and audience is well tuned to the groupthink, so it is misleading you as to actual appeal of this "circle-jerk" groupthink to the world outside our microscopic audiences.

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innuendo (65) · 8 years ago (edited)

In those comments you offer quite an interesting opinion - which I think deserves to be turned into a separate post.

No one wins if we all bind ourselves together in one groupthink and fight over who has control. Instead the solution is decentralization of groupings, so our like-minded groupings have localized control, not site-wide.

What makes you think that, as time goes by, the whales will not diversify and start specializing in different areas? There can a whale supporting travel stories, another supporting fiction writing etc. Especially when Steem Power gets the ability to be rented out, so that whales can delegate the curation task to reputable dolphins?

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anonymint (65) · 8 years ago

In those comments you offer quite an interesting opinion - which I think deserves to be turned into a separate post.

Ty. I will blog post again when I have something to offer as solution. Not to just make more complaints.

What makes you think that, as time goes by, the whales will not diversify and start specializing in different areas?

Because they are all cryptonerds.
They are all (now due to Steem) rich with presumably masters and PhD education, so they won't identify with the interests of the masses.
They don't have time to be engrossed in "1000 points of light" content cultivation. They can't get down in close to niches the way individual bloggers could. For example, travel isn't just one niche, but dozens or 100s of niches.
Knowledge creation is like spontaneous combustion. It can't be top-down managed. It is a grass roots, bottom up activity. I wrote about this some years ago and we were discussing it at Bitcointalk in depth over these years.
Static content is not the value of the social network. The value is in the network connections and the dynamic interaction between the blogger and sub-community. A whale is an outsider to this interactive grass roots process. The whale can't even see all the information because it is happening in real-time ongoing. I refer you also to this blog on the fact that Steem doesn't understand the content must be alive.

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innuendo (65) · 8 years ago

If you've seen past Steemit videos of mine on Youtube, you'll notice it gets a lot of people down voting it and calling Steemit a "scam". Please take this 24 hour period to "like" the video if you enjoyed it and also make comments on your experience with Steemit, before all the trolls get on.

@dollarvigilante, why don't you make a bold move and just disable comments under your video on YT? And instead, offer a link to this post as a place where discussion takes place.

It might be a bit controversial - I'm just offering a suggestion for you to consider. But I'll understand if you think it's not a good idea at this stage.

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clintb (25) · 8 years ago

Great post as usual Jeff. Steemit really is a great thing for us AnCaps, we're finally catching a break. Lol :)

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bettyanne (25) · 8 years ago

Thank you all!

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santiagomaicon (25) · 8 years ago

Very Good

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bitbutter (55) · 8 years ago

@larkenrose @dragonanarchist The mirror is sounding very promising. I'm encouraged by what you said in the video about the design decisions going into presenting the branching discussion - I especially like the decision to just present a users previous responses alongside their apparently contradictory ones without prescribing the correct answer.

Will the finished product be freely available? What plaftform(s) will it be available on?

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ericbelsey (40) · 8 years ago

@dollarvigilante, I love and follow your work, and enjoy Anarchast. One semantic quibble I catch you in frequently enough to finally say something. The spelling, and pronunciation of the word is voluntarYism. It is clunky, and does not roll off the tongue smoothly, I know. But it distinguishes the word from another different, but related concept, voluntarism, the tendency and willingness of people to work at things they enjoy, uncompensated.

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alexskinner (50) · 8 years ago

good

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future24 (75) · 8 years ago

Thanks for sharing! I really hope Steemit will help the world to change a little bit better. Let´s spread this out to the world! Best regards, Jonas

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sharperguy (28) · 8 years ago

It would be really cool to see Milo Yiannopoulos on here. Since his twitter ban he might be looking for other outlets. An uncensorable one would be a great place to start I think.

Looking forward to the debate with Tone Vays. It would also be interesting to hear an interview with the developer(s) of steem. Having read the whitepaper myself I'm still not totally convinced that the platform can have long-term viability, but I don't think there is any scam involved.

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bik1980 (25) · 8 years ago

это правда

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dwinblood (73) · 8 years ago (edited)

If you down vote this you didn't watch the video. ;)

Screw you @larkenrose you look like a lumberjack!

EDIT: Could be worse. I currently look like a crazed santa claus.

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larkenrose (70) · 8 years ago

I am a lumberjack (on occasion). That might explain it.

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sigmajin (65) · 8 years ago

im getting a mental image of the monty python skit.

dollarvigilante (76) · 8 years ago (edited)

That's actually true. I made fun of @larkenrose at our roast at Anarchapulco by saying "I didn't even know Larken was here until someone said, 'Did you see that ginger lumberjack down by the pool wearing flannel?'"... Amanda told me afterwards, "We laughed because Larken actually used to be a lumberjack"... Knowing that, it made my joke somewhat less funny but also explains a lot about how he looks. :)

dwinblood (73) · 8 years ago

Hehe. Me too. I used to split a lot of wood. :) I wonder if my excuse for how I look could be that I have been known to be Santa Claus before. Nah, I kind of look like Einstein and Santa Claus had a baby. I really need to go get a hair cut before that annual company meeting in a few weeks... laugh

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jonnyrevolution (59) · 8 years ago

I'm excited to start seeing more anarchists/voluntaryists joining steemit. The atmosphere is great and I really loved this video. Thanks for the content.

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rimann (57) · 8 years ago

Whaaat? @dragonanarchist is the voice in all of those videos Larken makes?

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jlufer (75) · 8 years ago

Gracias por compartir este material, me gusta lo que has publicado. si deseas podes visitar mi blogg, votar, seguir o compartir con tus amigos

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jlufer (75) · 8 years ago

Gracias por compartir este material, me gusta lo que has publicado. si deseas podes visitar mi blogg, votar, seguir o compartir con tus amigos gracias.

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mrrl (25) · 8 years ago

The best post about steemit so far.

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maykor15 (52) · 8 years ago

interesting.

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lifeworship (66) · 8 years ago

vote Larken Rose for God, because the first thing he would do is abdicate. i love this.

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jaytaylor (62) · 8 years ago

Thank you for this post and the video, @dollarvigilante, @dragonanarchist and @larkenrose - I thoroughly enjoyed it on every level, and I'm feeling really inspired! In my everyday life I barely meet anyone with a similar worldview, but this place is fairly heaving with like minds! Long may Steemit run...I'm off to formulate my #introduceyourself post...! :o)

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xzars1 (1) · 8 years ago (edited)

This is the simplified future roadmap of Steemit

Month 1 - founders pray for no copyright violation claims/other legal issues
Month 2 - same as month 1
Month 3 - founders cash out and abandon the ship
(Steemit dies)

Month 4 - dantheman initiates another pyramid scheme: 
 "We've learned a lot from Steemit and Bitshares"
 "Please join our new shitcoin INSERT-NAME-HERE project, we guarantee you...
 this new thing has the potential to take over the world!"

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simon.braki.love (52) · 8 years ago

Thanks for the interesting interview, I'm going to watch it now and I'm anxious to know their opinions and explanations. Have a great day to all of you!

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vonpetro (55) · 8 years ago

how do you get people to follow you?
i blog alot but no followers

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magdalenaruth (42) · 8 years ago (edited)

Very cool idea! - Watching video now- lovin' it! ( i'll have to refer my friends who are still doubters of the truth!) Sweet validation! Cheers! - upvoted, followed and shared!

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rgao534 (14) · 8 years ago

https://goo.gl/CFveOF , Did you look at this post?

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https://steemit.com/anarchism/@maytons/i-write-cool-songs-around-sublime-anarchist-themes

maytons (41) · 8 years ago

Just lookin' fer some love! ;)

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martial (26) · 8 years ago

I'm still wading in, but I can't see much issue with publicly posting content on a social media site when you already do that very thing.
I can't fathom a reasonably coherent argument.

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rich77 (53) · 8 years ago

Great show as usual! Mirror sounds cool and Im glad steemit is helping to fund it.

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nima (25) · 8 years ago

A fascinating discussion and very helpful for newcomers to Steemit -- like me! Thanks so much!

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recursive (62) · 8 years ago

Haha, @berniesanders is getting his money's worth of trolling for his downvote, he must be kicking himself on this one!

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happyphoenix (66) · 8 years ago

NIce I see you are smoking....yeah, nice to meet smoker...I am smoker too, any way nice video

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mrmike3rd7 (25) · 8 years ago

Larkin Rose, what a mind!

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infowarfare (35) · 8 years ago

We need more people advocating for voluntary society! Thanks Jeff, Larken and Amanda.

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lightobserver (34) · 8 years ago (edited)

Awesome video guys. Informative, inspiring, and entertaining. The dead sea scrolls bit made me lol.

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