Welcome to the eleventh day of the May 30 days writing challenge. If you don't know what this challenge is about, please have a look at the introductory post. Also, at the end of each article I will post the links to all the posts in the challenge (if you're joining the challenge, I encourage you to do the same). Also, if you join, don't forget to tag your post with #challenge30days and also leave a comment with the link of your post, so I can evaluate if you're one of the 3 lucky Steemians that will get a full upvote from me.
What’s More Important For Steemit Right Now: Smart Media Tokens or Hivemind?
Let's start this with a disclaimer: I don't think there is an ultimate, correct answer to this question. Today's topic is meant more like an invitation to conversation and not necessarily like a final decision on where Steemit should head right now.
With that being said, let's proceed...
To Be Honest, Hivemind...
From what I'm seeing on Hivemind's Github repository so far (following closely @roadscape's work on it) it looks like it will fill a very nasty gap between the bare blockchain and the rich user experience that we're all missing now. And user experience is fundamental for mass adoption.
Hivemind is a layer which allows you to build a Facebook / Instagram / Twitter clone on top of the Steemit blockchain in a much consistent - and standardized - way. As of now, Steemit is rather rough around the edges and even busy, org, which is a class above it form a UI perspective, is not ideal. What's really missing right now from Steemit, as a social media product, is usability. So now, I think Hivemind is the feature that should be rolled out first.
Don't get me wrong, I still believe SMTs will deeply disrupt the Steemit ecosystem, and they will probably generate a lot of new products and communities, but this is a very intricate feature and it requires a more complex set of skills to implement, manage and improve. That means it has a shorter market niche and a slower impact.
Your turn now. Which one do you think it's more important: Hivemind or Smart Media Tokens? Leave a link to your post in the comments so I can check it out.
Previous Posts In The Challenge
- May 30 Days Writing Challenge - Day Ten: What’s Your Favorite Morning Drink: Coffee, Tea, Water, Juice? Why?
- May 30 Days Writing Challenge - Day Nine: Where Do You See Steemit In 5 Years?
- May 30 Days Writing Challenge - Day Eight: What’s Your Most Consistent Hobby For The Last 5 Years?
- May 30 Days Writing Challenge - Day Seven: Name 3 Things That Must Be Done Immediately To Make Steemit.com A Better Experience
- May 30 Days Writing Challenge - Day Six: What Is Your Main Reason For Staying On Steemit?
- May 30 Days Writing Challenge - Day Five: What Are The Top 5 Crypto Assets You’re Investing In Now?
- May 30 Days Writing Challenge - Day Four: What Are The Top 5 Most Relevant Witnesses On Steemit? Why?
- May 30 Days Writing Challenge - Day Three: What’s The Best Thing That Happened To You Because Of Steemit?
- May 30 Days Writing Challenge - Day Two: If You Will Get 1000 STEEM Tomorrow, What Would You Do With It?
- May 30 Days Writing Challenge - Day One: How Did You Get On Steemit?
- Announcing May 30 Days Writing Challenge: Strengthening The Steemit Community
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Well, obviously Hivemind! Convenience is the word for the next wave of Steem users.
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To be entirely honest, what is most important right now is that Steemit Inc starts shipping something. It doesn’t really matter anymore what as long as we see something happening because ever more it seems that after @dan left this is becoming a vaporware roadmap blockchain.
Don’t get me wrong, many early stage companies underestimate the work scaling can require and also how to become a company. But there’s some things which raise way too many flags, such as the app (compare message delivered at SteemFest2 to Ned’s update post), the constant mention of work on scaling (create a team to focus solely on that but continue the rest as well), while I’m not sure agile method is necessarily the optimal method for a blockchain (SF/HF), surely for frontend and app Steemit should have been agile since its earliest days, etc...
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A-fooking-men!
I mean, I cannot applaud this first sentence enough. I've been in technology since 1985, and any other company operating like stinc and dependant on real outside investors or with a board controlling the executives would be dead as doornails by now.
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HF20 surely is another nail in the coffin of waterfall. Or maybe just in the performance of post-Dan Steemit Inc?
At this point I would be happy just with a fluorescent unicorn background even. At least we would see something being shipped, right?
The difference in message about the mobile app is unforgivable and proves that there’s something seriously wrong in the tech org of Steemit Inc.
How can it “not be as good as you want” after all that time? Surely wireframes existed and the app was developed accordingly.
Or should we read in between the lines and face the reality that the codebase sucks because that ranks otherwise among the slowest app approvals EVER by Apple Inc. Which usually is a testimony of shit code. Simple as. Many manage to get their app approved at first attempt.
In fact, I currently have 4 indie developed Steem apps for iOS installed on my phone. Indie meaning no gazillions of ninja-mined Steem available to fund development. 🤷♂️
Addendum: just saw this image and while not totally related it totally is.
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haha great photo. So on my resume is over 4 years as Director of Technology for a social networking app that ran on desktops, iphones and android. Having been through the submission processes with my teams products over the years, I agree with you once again. Obviously you have some time in the biz, unlike the student driver interns driving the ship over at our favorite nicely coiffed dev shop.
Even when our app blew it with major fails, we could appeal and get the apps out the door in less than 3 days in every single case, and when they didn't blow up, we got them out within the same day in most cases. You can even take a fast track option and accelerate that review in many cases for routine oop's that need a do-over on a release.
But hey, speaking of slow releases, aren't we still waiting on milestone items from 2016, 2017 and expected-already 2018 releases? Oh yeah... we are.
But do you like the new logo and pencil button though?
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Ah those roadmaps.
I think first thing they did when going agile was icebox the main task for 2016: find a CEO.
Because that’s what Steemit Inc. needs most and we definitely deserve.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You sir are a new hero of mine for that one remark alone! :D
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I agree Dragos, Hivemind should be rolled out first. If SMTs will come out in a rough ecosystem, this will probably generate an initial wave toward Steem, but regular people will not stay if the user experience isn't as expected.
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At this stage of the game, it's still fertile ground for many innovative initiatives (e.g., SMTs, Hivemind, Smart Wallet, etc.).
In the end, I'm hoping that the mass adoption of cryptocurrency and the mainstreaming of blockchain technology paves the way for the next global economy where decentralization makes greedy middlemen obsolete (AKA: Buckminster Fuller's prediction).
And in my lifetime I would be delighted to see the drudgery of cheaply compensated manual labor replaced by efficient smart machines; hence, freeing up more time for what I consider more noble and productive ways to spend one's personal time (the MOST VALUABLE COMMODITY that anyone possesses).
That will herald the beginning of an economy where contributions to humanity, a fair global economy and human creativity is duly rewarded.
Until then, my eyes and my mind are wide open.
Thanks for the thought provoking post.
Namaste, JaiChai
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I don't understand SMT's. I THINK I might have a clue about HiveMind. I like it.
No doubt in my mind that it should be first and SOON.
One other thing.. in a previous post you mentioned Busy, Dlive, Dtube and some others, particularly the one(s) which allow steemers to sell things for SBD.. We need and easy and VISIBLE method of cross-access....yesterday.
That's a big thing and the moment Steemit is not taking advantage of it.
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I am actually clueless at first how the two will work, but here is my answer:
https://steemit.com/challenge30days/@iyanpol12/day-eleven-may-30-days-writing-challenge-what-s-more-important-for-steemit-right-now-smart-media-tokens-or-hivemind
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Again, an interesting topic to talk about. I really had to take my time to study it thoroughly, so I'm glad I could learn something new.
Here is my entry: https://steemit.com/steemit/@tim3w4rp/to-hive-or-to-smt-that-is-the-question
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I'm very happy to send this post - I had technical troubles today - very tiring :)
What's More Important for Steemit - Smart Media Tokens or Hivemind?
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I would agree with you on this for the points you made.
The other issue in my mind is regulation. Will there be issues with SMTs legally speaking? In effect you will be able to do a type of ICO on the Steem Blockchain so will this be an issue and will this cause delays for issuing SMTs? There is so much uncertainty here prioritising hivemind sounds like a good idea.
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This is a real challenge, because based on what I have read about these, I think that both Smart Media Tokens (SMTs) and Hivemind is both equally important for Steemit.
Since I can't choose between them, I guess I pass on this one.
I will probably participate in the next part of the challenge tomorrow.
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For the purpose of this topic of discussion, are we saying Steemit and STEEM are more or less synonymous? That's what I took from your post. At any rate, tried to answer this how I thought it should be answered. Here's the link.
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My opinion is that they should not be taken even remotely synonymously. It's exactly what creates confusion among less technically knowledgeable people.
I think you were of similar opinion in your post.
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Yeah. In the post, I went ahead and made the distinction, simply because I've seen others making the distinction, and because I think there is one, particularly in this case. When you have a UI that people use with varying degrees of success and satisfaction, and then you have a blockchain where the interactions of the UI are being recorded, it seemed appropriate to separate the two.
And when you do separate the two, as I said in the post, it seems like neither Hivemind or SMTs help Steemit, but both could do wonders for STEEM depending on the implementation and ease of use.
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It not a matter of "thinking" or finding it "appropriate" to separate the two. They are two distinct entities. Stinc is a company that can't really execute anymore, but could go away and we'd possibly be better off for it. The blockchain is an open source decentralized system owned by no one and everyone all at once.
The only connection is that stinc devotes developer time to BC pull requests, primarily to ensure things go their way, just like shadowy accounts ensure the top 20 are going to be so controlled by the votes that they will most assuredly allow a hard fork such as smt's to proceed, right or wrong, ready or not, IF they can ever actually produce substance from the vapor they exude now. And to ensure they can mostly gate user contributed pull requests in ways that suit them, good for users or not.
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I guess I like to finesse words a little. It's kind of what I do. :) I feel the post was actually more to the point, anyway.
Now, would you might explaining something for me. You're like the third our fourth person now who has made a statement similar to:
Would you mind explaining that? Open source is not owned by anyone, but does not each blockchain have some kind of trademarked, proprietary code or technology that actually does belong to someone? Like Steemit Inc.? If they wanted for some reason, to shut down access to the blockchain, wouldn't they be within their rights? What or who would stop them?
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Nope, they can't - Like the internet itself, it's designed to literally withstand take-down, EMF bombs, nuclear wars. As long as a copy of the code is running on a machine somewhere on earth, an entire copy of the entire history of the chain is on that machine. It's on ALL our machines. No company owns a blockchain, and no one can make it stop. That's the entire point. Every witness, RPC node and seed node contains an entire copy of the entire history of the chain, any node can be added and its first task is to download ("replay") a copy of the entire thing. Then it attaches to the network and helps process blocks. Take one out, the rest keep on trucking. Take out an entire continent, and the rest keep on trucking.
It's beyond the scope of a comment to teach you how the system you are using here works, but it's not a secret, google is your friend. It's all documented out there since the beginning of the first well known public one - bitcoin - first launched in, um, 2010 I think it was?
A PRIMARY thing to know is, that steemit, inc, is just a company that makes a blogging site, they happen to be the ones that initated this block chain from dan larimer's code base, and kicked it off, but then once running it isn't theirs at all. They literally could go out of business tomorrow (and perhaps, it would be beneficial to the platform in some ways if they did, some might say) but the chain will live on forever.
Stinc is NOT steem. NEVER confuse that. Stinc is an basically an amateur software company. Dan's blockchain code is brilliance. The two are not synonymous in any remote way whatsoever.
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Okay. I wasn't equating the one to the other. I've been grasping the idea that they're not the same. And I also understood what you said about how the blockchain is on every RPC and seed node. What I was not seeing was how little control Steemit has over the blockchain, except then you also say they have considerable sway through BC pull requests, and it's obvious they're more or less in line with those shadowy accounts you were talking about keeping the top witnesses in line. So, while no one owns the blockchain, it sounds like there's plenty of folks doing a good job of controlling what happens on it, with or without Steemit Inc's direct involvement.
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NOW you smell the stuff we're stepping in...
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I'm just now reading through some of the comments. I try not to read other people's comments and posts until I've completed mine. Then I can make sure it's as much my own opinion as possible. I also ended up making the distinction between them. I took it a step further than you and @tim3w4rp did. Heh. I have to take off soon, but looking forward to reading the posts from each of you.
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I think you are right, to some extent.
From the lack of due diligence, I've given less credit to Hivemind than I should have. I've stated in my post, that Hivemind is: updates to the UI of Steemit and as such could be helpful to Steemit. I can see now that it is much more than that.
I think that the cornerstone of the winning argument for Hivemind is that creating the tools necessary for developers to easily access the data stored on the blockchain can essentially be helpful to any frontend out there. Not just Steemit. SMTs would do nothing for the ease of use at both sides of the party.
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Okay. So, there is a chance that Steemit does benefit from Hivemind because it would make it easier even for the developers who work on Steemit day in and day out to make changes quicker, if I'm understanding what you're saying. And I would agree, from what I think I understand of how Hivemind works, any app, including Steemit will be able to build out and attach to the blockchain quicker and easier.
The question then becomes intent. Is there an actual intent on the part of Steemit Inc. to keep Steemit going? Or is it going to be replaced by Communities through Hivemind? We find out in time.
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Yep, that is what I was saying.
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I can not decide for one or the other. I go for both.
Here's my post
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May 30 Days Writing Challenge - Day 11: What’s More Important For Steemit Right Now: Smart Media Tokens or Hivemind?
There is only 1 correct answer.
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I really hope that Hive mind and Communities will help fix some of the problems we face right now.
I am still bullish on Steem and support it but something needs to be done.
https://steemit.com/challenge30days/@maverickinvictus/may-30-days-writing-challenge-day-eleven-what-s-more-important-for-steemit-right-now-smart-media-tokens-or-hivemind
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I agree with you on this one Hivemind it's what will take steemit to the next level and from there the sky is the limit
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Thanks for this Initiative sir I am going to make a post on Day -eleven @dragosroua
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I think a great strategy.i guess
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wow sir nice, important and learning post.
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I’ve always been caught behind on my schedules on my 30 days writing but this is an interesting discussion which I’d love to be part of
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Gooood
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Not really sure about SMTs, but Hivemind could lead Steemit away from the "Future MySpace" fate.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@unacomn/30-day-writing-challenge-11-more-important-for-steemit-right-now-smart-media-tokens-or-hivemind
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I came to the same conclusion you did.
Here's my post for the day: https://steemit.com/challenge30days/@themanwithnoname/what-s-more-important-for-steemit-smt-s-or-hivemind
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Hello @dragosroua,
Sorry for arriving at the party late, but I had promised to keep up with this challenge.
Here's my entry;
https://steemit.com/challenge30days/@joshuaetim/may-30-days-challenge-day-11-what-s-more-important-for-steemit-right-now-smart-media-tokens-or-hivemind
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Well, I think I need to lear more stuff related to steemit ( we all learn something new today). Sadly, I will passed this because I think that if I do a post about this won't be a good opinion. So far, I've enjoy all the answers.
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Day 11 - Hive Mind or Smart Media Tokens
here we go - Hivemind first!!!
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