Are You An Active User? (Experiment #2)

in steemit •  6 years ago 

2 Days ago i made a post about an "experiment" i am conducting regarding the activity in here. In case you missed the part 1 and wanna check it out click here. What i did was to simply ask for people reading this post or watching the title of it :P, to just make a comment. After nearly 2 days the number of total comments was 19, out of my 1600 followers, so as you can understand something seems off. 

If you recall a couple of months ago the whole community tried to promote a voting that took place in netcoins in which the winner coin/crypto would earn a free listing that worth 30.000$. Thankfully, we won but the number of the total votes was a disaster and not even close to the 50k of daily active users. Note also that this contest promoted by many "famous" and influential Steemians as well as communities and they even rewarded those that voted.

In my previous post i said that from those 50k active daily users let's just exclude 10k of them that probably are bots or alt accounts. I also stated the following:

 To be qualified as daily active account you just need to do at least one transaction per day. That means that a power up,power down, 1 upvote, 1 comment, 1 reply, 1 post,sending % of steem-sbd equals daily activity for your account. 

We now have a total number of 40k daily active accounts but the reality is much worse than you thought. A lot of people use autovoting services that i am not against but it still mislead us in a way. If you have no free time or you follow too many people then it's more than ok to use autovoting services, it's a must! That way you can reward the people you love or at least find interesting. 

The problem though is that by doing this the account counts as a daily active user even if you are at a cabin in the woods without any internet connection. Also, many people don't bother to do any manual research at all, maybe cause they are bored, maybe cause they don't have the time, maybe because they do everything automatically? 

Thus, my speculation is that the daily active accounts are around 10k  and even less. Moreover maybe that is an answer to some question you may be wondering. Questions like:

"Why nobody reads my posts while stats say 50k daily active accounts??"
"Why my posts don't get that much visibility?"
"Why from my *insert a number* followers only 10%-20% reads my stuff?"
"What are the reasons behind that low activity?"


Now i am gonna use more DRASTIC MEASURES to see if anyone will bother to leave a comment. As you know in my previous post i just wanted to see some activity from anyone by just commenting. Now i will take this a step further and use @steemitboard's ranking page to sort it out by the number of comments (i"ll try to exclude the bots,some fishy accounts and the ones i follow or follow me) and below i am gonna mention a lot of top ranking (by comments) Steemian names just to see what will happen!

 

Note that the reason i am doing this is because most of us use apps,bots,dapps that notify us when somebody mentions our names, either this called Gina-Bot, Steemworld etc etc. You can do the exact same things in the comment section, it will be fun! Will they bother to check why their names mentioned or not? Let's see what will happen!

@arcange @tattoodjay @jlufer @blazing @meesterboom @ace108 @dswigle @kimsungmin @karenmckersie @melinda010100 @gringalicious @luzcypher @steevc @dineroconopcion @foxkoit @dobartim @karenb54 @barrydutton @abh12345 @rehan12 @hjk96 @tangmo @offgridlife @centering @thecryptofiend @noisysky @firepower @lyndsaybowes @richq11 @nolasco @tata1 @kus-knee @mammasitta @gillianpearce @mariannewest @jaynie @stackin @chireerocks @stellabelle @daveks @doitvoluntarily @englishtchrivy @jwolf @venti @bree1042 @sweetsssj @sallybeth23 @jaytop @lovehm1223 @quinneaker @gilma @sindoja @skuld2000 @girina79 @ackhoo @khaiyoui @onehand @jamieinthedark @rosaria @wilhb81 @ewkaw @opheliafu @makesushi @saffisara @margaretwise @immarojas @everlove @eaglespirit @junny @vimva  @tarazkp @mastertri @gochuchamchi @jhy2246 @hodolbak @tailcock @silviabeneforti @idikuci @ddllddll @theguruasia @pepe.maya @erikah @surfermarly @himapan @kiwifi @lemouth @nonameslefttouse @mimistar @dreemit @dayleeo @neojew @kaminchan @kingscrown @maikuraki @happyphoenix @hanen @greenrun @twinbraid @seunglimdaddy @pandafam @hersnz @epitt925 @andrianna @asinayo @acidyo @creatr @taskmaster4450 @dwinblood @veryspider @lukestokes @denmarkguy @lichtblick @trafalgar @bluengel @allasyummyfood @sunnylife @cine @sunscape @wandrnrose7 @dandesign86 @stokjockey @jinuking @kaylinart @clixmoney @jyinvest @arbitrarykitten @newbijohn @freebornangel @r2cornell @angelina6688 @viktoriyani @pipurilla @mcsamm @deanliu @ayogom @paradise-found @enginewitty @lucky2 @yasu24 @joythewanderer @valth @ackza @hatu @krnel @whatsup @gaeteul @djohan @bashadow @sergiomendes @knozaki2015 @brittandjosie @themanwithnoname @ninahaskin @songa0906 @gardenofeden @klye @trincowski @jhani @exyle @rizasukma @mariska.lubis @kevinwong @choogirl @yoshiko @future24 

Those people are among the top 400 users based on the number of their comments. I wanted to continue but doing it manually takes a lot of time. Also, the Koreans are all over the top spots! What's your key for engagement guys, share your secrets!

Once again the only thing i want is quite simple. I just wanna see if you are one of those active accounts. I don't care about upvoting or resteeming this post, all i want is to MAKE A COMMENT, anything that you like even an emoji will be just fine! You can also add others by using @andthenamehere and make the "experiment" your own! 


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Here :)

yea!!!

i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

I'm here as well!
It's funny that I'm in the top comments I had no idea, I don't feel like I comment as often as I should. But I certainly try :)

yeahhh another active one! If you think you comment as often imagine if you did :P

probably not. but ok

wow a fellow "comedian"!! comedyopenmic rules!

i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

You could also be active and have a look at my blog to see if I'm active. ;)

That was exactly what I was going to suggest that he could do as well. Guess that would be too much work for him tough :P

@nonameslefttouse @valth as a matter of fact all the names i wrote are supposed to be active users and to be more specific daily active users. I opened around 400 tabs based on the number of comments via steemitboard, then i excluded all the bots, the ones i follow/followed and some accounts that seemed fishy or inactive (at least to be counted as daily active users), maybe i excluded some actives by mistake cause 400 tabs and checking them manually is a bit of tough work actually.

Now i could easily boost my first posts to see bigger activity but i hate bid-bots thus i tried it with 2 different ways. The first one was to simply ask for a comment and guess what. The majority were people that follow me, showing once again that mostly none search manually new posts.

In the second one i wanted to see if the most active users sorted by comments which i consider give a true sense of activity and engagement in the platform (i also checked a bit some of their comments to avoid the "good post sir") will actually check this if i tag them cause otherwise they won't.

What i wanna show is that the 50k of daily active accounts if we just stick to posting/upvoting/commenting/replying is far more less than that number, aproximately 10k or less and that number plus automation is one of the answers as to why many users don't get new followers, have the same people check their posts, have a feeling that the place is getting dead etc etc Add in that the bad interface and the bid-bots and there you have it!

Ahh before i forget it, as i said because i had so many tabs opened at a certain point i wasn't even checking the names only if they are active, not bots, not fishy etc etc. Now that i get to see some of the tags or replies i have and check the names i have to say i already know that @nonameslefttouse you are active, i have upvoted some of your posts in the past and i know the whole fight you give against the extreme use of bid-bots. @valth it's the first time i see you though :P Also i promise to check more thoroughly your profiles/post as well as the majority of people that commented here!

hf

haha that's true. It seems that i need a little bit of interaction to go on to feel like my post actually hold value to someone!

5 out of of the 25 current responders are from #thealliance. One thing we try to do is engage with our family. And, since you mentioned me, @partiko was nice enough to tell me before Gina tried hitting on me again. But, you bring up valid points about activity and I think a lot of it has to do with there not being a sufficient notifications system. The app I'm on right now is about the best I've used where I don't have to leave the chain.

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I so agree on the notifications!

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Ya they frign rock!

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5 out of of the 25 current responders are from #thealliance.

That's really something -- all things considered. That makes me really proud of us.

All things considered indeed. Been really rough since the freeze prior to the fork.😏

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tell me more about the alliance! is the a community account that i can learn more about the whole vision? (cause i like engaging!)

I haven't though that much about the notifications part. It is very important but i think in order to reach that point we need to be more active in order to have people to tag :P My main issue is the number of daily active users that are way less than 50k and the automation of everything. I believe that some dapps/curation trails/autovoting services lead to an "ease" and people don't bother to engage that much. Those are just tools though so i am not against it or anything, i am talking about the mindset of any individual!

Also, i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

@thealliance is a high quality content and curation 'family'. I use the word family because we really do get to know each other on a personal level and foster engagement on the chain. I can put your name in the hat if you like, and see what our officers have to say?

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yeah why not!

Is there any specific rules of the community cause i wanna check based on my time if i could be up to this or not. For example if there is a rule to upvote and comment 5-6 posts per day of the community i can't do that both because of time and cause i have already a bunch of people i follow (add the drop in prices, my upvote don't worth a lot now). If it is 2 people though or something more "open" then i think i can do it

It's not all about the voting. Browse the tag awhile ( #thealliance ) and tell me if we're a fit. Find an alliance member to sponsor you if you decide you may want to join us. You comment well😎

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i checked it, i saw many different posts which i like both because it shows activity and i can find posts that seem more interesting to me than others (i am not limited), so count me in! i don't know how to find a sponsor, or to be more exact what to say so let's me just say to you to sponsor me?

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Glad to know that I'm on the top 400 people based on the number of my comments. I commented more than 11,000 times in steem blockchain during almost a year and half here.

I also agree that automation is not always good. I ask to follow the trail of the community @dcooperation I'm building, at least with 1% just to be in our automatically daily posts. But I do all the upvotes manually. Because only with manual curation we can make it fair. Of course it's not always easy thing to do, but it's the better way. I just track people here : http://www.steemreports.com/outgoing-votes-info/?account=dcooperation&days=14

And I upvote them depending on how much they delegate or contribute to the community.

I hope more people will do manual upvotes and this is the best way to make us all grow.

I hope also that people will upvote each other fairly, not whales upvoting whale, dophin upvoting dolphins and minnows upvoting minnows. This is what I see happening now. We are all people, we are all the same.

i completely agree with what you said and i am also upvoting everything manually. I am not against using dapps/curation trails/autovoting services cause sometimes i even consider it a must. Think of someone working a lot and still wanna reward some friends and people he/she finds interesting so in a way these services are more than welcomed.

My issue is that like in real life automation makes thing easier but also make people distant. People in here overuse these services and don't bother to interact with each other and build relationships. Also as i mentioned in my post with all these the actual number of daily active users is far more less. I do agree so much with your following statement!

I hope also that people will upvote each other fairly, not whales upvoting whale, dophin upvoting dolphins and minnows upvoting minnows. This is what I see happening now. We are all people, we are all the same.

Also, i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

Thanks for the nice reply. Don't worry about upvoting the comment, I don't upvote comments at all. I think we have to save our power for posts to motivate people. Because people spend so much time writing posts and doing their best to get their posts noticed and they need that support. A lot of people don't like me because I don't upvote comments, but this is who I am, I try to reward those who really deserve it.

About engagements, I hope you will join @dtube . I was posting for 11 months in steemit for pennies and I almost left steem blockchain, but after joining Dtube, I improved a lot. Not only in engagement, but also in building relationships. I even met a few steemians after that and I'm building now a very good community, where we all collaborate and support each other. I hope you will think about joining Dtube, because I feel you like me 7 months ago before joining dtube. I really like your thinking. I wish you all the best.

yea i completely understand your logic for the comments. I try to reward some of them (not now that the prices are like that) but for that particular post i just wanted to "give back" a little something to those that actually replied. Sadly my full upvote now worth 5cents but still i gave to mostly anyone commenting a small upvote (1-2cents worth) to one or more of their posts!

Generally my priority is to upvote and make some comments depending on time, to the ones i follow! Also, i am not a dtube guy :P i don't like showing my face or at least showing it all in any social media so for now i will keep as it is! Because i am almost 2 years here i completely understand the difference Dtube can make both in engagement and wallet ;)

I hope to see you in dtube, you can also follow @nathanmars and participate in his ideas. He delegated to dtubers a lot of steem power, and maybe if you will decide to jump to dtube , you will also get some delegations. The ideas of #dtubesnap are really doing well now. We are curating them to help everyone grow and be excited about steem blockchain. Steem blockchain is really great if we use it the proper way, but using most apps built on it. I didn't undertand that before, but now I see that without those apps it's almost impossible to reach somewhere. And more and more are building now. I'm sure about the good future of steem because all apps. We have so many interesting developers and you can see that at steemfest video presentations, I don't know if you were in steemfest or not, but I watched a lot of videos there and they are all building something really huge for the long run of steem. You can watch those videos here if you want : https://www.youtube.com/c/steemfest/videos.

Hello, just responding ...

that will do just fine!

Also, i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

No worries! I was not sure what this was about and just responded because I saw my name tagged and this wasn’t a write a post about my 10 likes or who am I. Lol

Thank you for writing my name.

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you are among the top users based on comments so it's natural

Also, i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!). I know a bit of Japanese so hopefully i could read and understand something :P

Amazing ! :)
in the list many members of KR community ♩♬ ♥

thanks for your efforts to steemit ecology !
wish make good progress !

have a great nice happy day with STEEMLIFE ♥

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yea too many Koreans good for you guys, you are awesome!!

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badass :P

@filotasriza3, my love, I am here. I know exactly how you feel (and I have my own theory on why this happens) . Like you, I have over 1000 "followers" none of whom seem to do me much good. It does make me wonder why they even bother to punch that "follow" button. By the looks of it I'm just cluttering up their feed.

I wasn't around 2 days ago -- well, not reading much although I was certainly signed in on Steemit. (I have responsibilities that preclude anything like ... a day off.) But I'm here now. Count me in. Let me be one of the 19 -- or whatever -- responders. Life is too short to feel you're just shouting into the wind.

P.S. Edit: I love the list, BTW. I'm stealing it for future reference.

yea i am on the same page. I have 1600 followers and mostly get 30 upvotes for the usual people i am engaging :P Most of these followers are bots, people that dropped steemit and the usual ones "good post sir" that just follow everyone in a silly attempt to gain upvotes/followers.

hehe i wasn't intended to include you cause i excluded all the people i know that are active (so it's not a bad thing :P) but i had 400 tabs opened, so you get me :P What i have seen is many people wondering why they don't get new followers,upvotes,comments, in general engagement and interaction and i wanna show them that one of the reasons is the way lower amount of actual daily users than they thought and the automation of Steemit (autovoting services,curations trails,dapps) that prevent the interaction in some extent. I am not against these services and dapps but i think people need to draw a line or learn to balance it somehow.

In this experiment i also tried to see if some of the top commentators? (is that a word? :p) are actually active or not but because i don't wanna boost my post to attract others and in my first experiment by just posting didn't worked at all, i thought to use tags to see if they bother to check it out :P

I've thought about doing something similar -- where I would comment on either expired posts or one that will soon be out of pay-out to see how much response those gathered. My feeling is, not many -- which is where the idea came from in the first place.

Part of that problem -- and maybe others as well -- is Steemit's dismal "notifications" system. GinaBOT helps some with that, but even she is not 100% reliable. I've wondered if people only look through the comments of their latest post to pick up what's going on there. Often even the "big names" you mention don't seem to respond to comments that come in later -- when they have "moved on" from the topic themselves.

I believe there are things Steemit itself could do to help with the engagement problem -- but, of course, they won't.

Also things seem to get lost in long comments sections. Part of the reason for this is there just aren't enough hours in the day. For this reason I rarely comment on something that already seems pretty active. There is evidently a "goldilocks zone" that hits the space between "hardly anything" and "too much to handle."

I also question the logic behind why Steemit killed the "views" feature. That seemed useful once upon a time -- especially when it was set up so that you opening your own page didn't add the the score.

I also have personal issues with people who seem to comment just to say something. It goes beyond "Great post!" -- but the comment lacks a certain sparkle. You can always tell the person was "trying to find something to say." On the one hand, they made the effort. On the other hand, there's usually not much substance there I can build on beyond, "Thank you." Which seems pretty lame.

Also projects like TrufflePig and curation posts don't seem to funnel much traffic to a featured post. People seem to slack off on reading and commenting because there's really no incentive to -- or not one that pays off well on any level -- and again, there just not enough time.

Often even the "big names" you mention don't seem to respond to comments that come in later -- when they have "moved on" from the topic themselves.

This exact thing happened to me 2 days ago. It has happened more times but in that particular one i got a little bit pissed. A "big name" wrote a post giving out some stats and stuff and i basically disagreed with that making a long long comment, a little bit longer i think than yours now, i even used bold to make it look easier to read :P

He never replied, then i checked the other comments. He mostly replied to nobody but 1-2 that are likely his friends and hold quite a bit of sp like him ;) 2 other random people upvoted my comment and i also gave a 1cent selfvote in order to make it reach the first spot. Till now he has made 2-3 other posts and never replied to that one, i will just say he maybe read it later :P (i am never commenting on his posts again though)

For this reason I rarely comment on something that already seems pretty active.

I tend to do that to some of my "friend's" posts. By friends i mean loyal followers, people i follow and regularly interact. By now i think they know my style that i am person that likes interaction and stuff but sometimes i just don't got the time. Likewise i kinda "expect" the same. Till now this is happening without any problems :P

I also have personal issues with people who seem to comment just to say something.

Yeah i totally understand that phrase! I think most of us know 100% by the comment if someone actually read it or not. If it's a completely random person the one making that comment i will have an issue with him/her and probably reply the same not bothering to check his profile. If though it's a person i follow/loyal follower that has upvoted mostly everything i make or commenting often then i won't mind cause it's like i know him/her and get him/her!

Also projects like TrufflePig and curation posts don't seem to funnel much traffic to a featured post. People seem to slack off on reading and commenting because there's really no incentive to -- or not one that pays off well on any level -- and again, there just not enough time.

i totally agree with you on that. There are many more factors in my opinion that lead to that. Some people have already too many people that they follow so it's really hard to check more stuff, especially if you do everything manually than i do. Once in a while though i think everyone should go and check this daily-weekly posts out he/she will find interesting people!

Another issue that i am try to highlight is the automation in everything. For example someone will give 1% of his voting power that results to 0$ to a curation trail (numbers like these are very usual :P). Then he won't care about actually reading the post or making a comment, in his mind he has done the good deed of the day (also he will count as a daily active user)

Now with the dapps that have a lot of sp for various reasons everyone will turn there cause it's less effort with more rewards. For example and i have seen this way too many times: Someone will upload and actifit post just mentioning their footsteps for today. He then will be rewarded with actifit towens, a small upvote and the people that use autovoting services. How easy is this? Zero effort for the same or more rewards that would earn by making a post. (that's the mindset)

Oh, Lord ---> there is so much meat here I could comment back on this alone for a week. I'll try to get it together and at least do something -- because you raise some very valid points. Again there's that "time factor" though. There's just not enough of it. Thank you for your long and thoughtful reply. We're really uncovering some other concerns worth discussing.

I didn't even know @Steemitboard had a list like that ES!

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@enginewitty you learn something new everyday :P

My grandfather used to say "a day I don't learn, is a day I just assume forget"

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Active to the best of my capabilities. I agree interactions are so few on my posts.

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yeah another active one!

Also, i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

thanks so much!

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yeaaah!

Here I am, paying attention. I'm an active user.

yeaa activity!!!

Also, i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

I'm writing a diary for my daughter every day :)

wow extremely active and for an awesome purpose!

Sadly i don't know Korean and can't read your posts :(

@filotasriza3, Yes, you've said true, in my opinion also the Daily Users count is very less than what we are shown, and we all have to agree that in daily active account many are Bot Accounts. And we are still away from the mass adoption but i believe that in future we will talk about why too many people are joining (just joking) ha ha, because reward pool will shrink and that's why SMT will play the real role.

Engagement Strategy

If we have to engage effectively in this Economy then first of all we have to remove the Expectation aspect and that is because, if we expect more and if we receive less then we will enter into demotivation phase. So, when i engage in comments i make sure that i am doing it organically, and not just because of Steem Power holding by next person.

Wishing you an great day and stay blessed. 🙂

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Yea i tend to follow the same engagement strategy! A real example that happened to me was to just keep doing my stuff, writing great comments and suck and welcoming new people. One of those newbies that i engaged in his first steps and throughout his steemlife bought steem and became a dolphin! Thus i wanna say how much i agree with the following phrase of yours

So, when i engage in comments i make sure that i am doing it organically, and not just because of Steem Power holding by next person.

Also, i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

Good to hear these words and keep enjoying your Steem Journey. Have a great time ahead. 🙂

Wow, I am included in the top 400 active users? Well, I am trying.... And I think that many people only hang out here when Steem is a bit higher. The new ones don't have the RC to interact much and probably don't know yet that that is the way to make friends...

We kick ass right?

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Yeah i agree with everything and what i am trying to say in my post is that the actual active daily accounts is far less than 50k, i assume 10k or less. Also automation (curations trails,autovoting services,dapps) make interaction far more less. Those are just tools though and i am not against them but people have to maintain a balance in their use which i think they don't resulting in this.

Agreed. And we really need more active users if we want this platform to have a great future. I find that I get invited to new discords and I already know a lot of the people there LOL

User retention and engagement is a tough problem that communities are fighting on an everyday basis, believe me...

you are one of the people i highly value your opinion! so what do you think the problem is? does the things i wrote being any representative at all to the reality? what are some methods to do you think will increase the engagement?

What I found out is that most users who joined last January-February are now gone, and those who joined when the Steem price was low are still around (mostly). I tihnk the reason is evident: money. I would like to have more users joining for another reason than the faulty "get rich quickly" one. Now is the good time and we are trying to being new people. Slowly and slowly.

I am curious to see the continuation of the experiment...Have a nice day !

haha that was it :P ηθελα απλα να δω κ να δειξω οτι οι ενεργοι χρηστες ειναι πολυ λιγοτεροι απο οτι νομιζουμε κ ενας απο τους λογους για αυτο ειναι ο αυτοματισμος σε ολα. Επισης ηθελα να δω κ να δειξω τι ποσοστο ενεργων χρηστων θα δει το ποστ μου χωρις να βαλω λεφτα για promotion με 2 τροπους. Ο ενας ηταν με ενα απλο ποστ, ο αλλος με την χρηση των tags π ερχεται ειδοποιηση στους πιο "ενεργους" χρηστες της πλατφορμας (θα τσεκαρουν τι ειναι η απλα θα βαρεθουν να μπουν στην διαδικασια?)

Αναμενόμενο το αποτέλεσμα του πειράματος φίλε μου @filotasriza3 ! Δυστυχώς και με τις τιμές που βρίσκονται στα "τάρταρα", πολλοί τα έχουν παρατήσει ή κρατάνε μια στάση αναμονής γενικά
...! Βέβαια, υπάρχουν και σοβαρά τεχνικά προβλήματα ( όπως με το steepshot που χρησιμοποιώ εγώ κατά κόρον και το πρόσφατο hard fork...) που δεν θα έπρεπε να διαρκούν περισσότερο από λίγες ώρες, αλλά κάνουν μέρες ή βδομάδες για να διορθωθούν...Η γνώμη μου ειναι, να κρατήσουμε όλοι οι ενεργοί χρήστες την ψυχραιμία μας, να ανεβάζουμε ποιοτικά posts και να το δούμε σαν ποιοτική ψυχαγωγία και μόνον...! Με το πέρας του χρόνου και την αλλαγή της ψυχολογίας, αλλά και την μετάβαση στην νέα blockchain τεχνολογία, θα δικαιωθούν όσοι ακολουθήσουν...! Να είσαι καλά και καλό σ/κ !!!

απο την μια προτιμω λιγοι κ καλοι, γτ οι περισσοτεροι π ειναι τωρα δν εχουν τοσο τα λεφτα ως προταιραιοτητα αλλα κ παλι πρεπει να ερθει νεος κοσμος. Οι τιμες οπως ειπες κ εσυ δν βοηθανε ουτε κ το RC (to νεο συστημα μετα το hard fork π τα κανει λιγο δυσκολα για τους νεους). Το θεμα ειναι οτι για να ερθει νεος κοσμος πρεπει πρωτα να βρουμε λυσεις σε πολλα προβληματα π υπαρχουν ηδη αλλιως απλα θα κλιμακωθουν! Καλη βδομάδα! :P

I think a part of the issue is that steem born as a blogging platform. Now evolves and have so many other uses. Things like @steepshot or @Steemhunt also @musing i have some interactions with many users. In musing interact is just TO FAST! Ill do a question and in the day i get 3-4 responses.

Guess many people are not used to read much and that is something impacting on the blogging community. And Dapps are dividing the content and users into selective niches.

Ill put lots of effort on my writing and i think most people even read. Im not good anyways. But steem is a good place to improve my skills, my english is better than in the begining. Some of my desing improves also.

I have been curated once by ocd and i get whitelisted on the best community bot.

what you said is very true and if i may add some of the dapps/autovoting services/curation trails lead to extreme automation. There are tools though, useful tools that we as individuals tend to overuse to the extreme!

Also, i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

Its ok! Ill interact just to have fun and know more people on the platform. Also i read a lot and i see your experiment and i want to participate.

There are some active users arround here. Im not receiving much comments on my posting and im going to swith my topics.

Your English language skills have increased and been getting much better😀

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Hello there! I have made it on your list! That must have been hard work to get together. Pleased to meet you ! GO STEEMIT!! ( I love this community) ❤️🌈🍀🦋🌴

hi!! it wasn't exactly my list but you are among the 400 top users sorted by comments according to steemitboard!

Also, i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

lol i had to hear this song for ages!

Alos, i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

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OK, you got me here, bravo 😂

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hehe i used "dirty" tricks :p thanks for answering!

Also, i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

I'm always active every day I spend more than two hours at the site

that sounds great!!

Also, i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

Yes, this is what I always do
Thank you

Well it is true like you said and moreover I do like your drastic measure to call upon the users.

The more activities is what we need actually, the increase of dapps in Steem Blockchain is kind of attracting specific users of those choices resulting users staying on those platform and not getting out and waching other dapps I really wonder what is going to happen when SMT's hit the floor.

While getting more active users should always be great!

thanks for your kinds words. As i see it with that many Dapps out there people are getting more and more into automation. Dapps are a tool so it's up to any individual how to use them but from what i see some people use them to insta upload/make posts just to post something, like how many steps they did today etc etc.

Also, i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

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Interesting post. Yes, I did try to check why my name was mentioned. :)
Some of the people you mentioned are Korean, and it's possible that they don't leave any comment because of the language barrier.

yea i get it, it was a hard time for me also to check if you guys were bots/actual people/communities :P You have such a strong community and from what i understood (because i opened and checked around 400 tabs manually) is that there is quite some engagement between your community/ethnicity which is awesome!

if you have any Koreans to suggest that make posts in English let me know, cause i really like your culture!

Were you looking for me?hahaha

yea another Korean! wow you guys have such a strong community. I mentioned it in my post too, while i was searching through the most active user by commenting way too many Koreans had a place in the top 400! Whats your secret? :p

I wanna check your posts but sadly i can't read Korean :( if you still have some Koreans to suggest that you find interesting and write in English i would appreciate it. I really like your culture!

I'm alive! :D

yeaa another alive one!

Also, i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

It's all good! We need more active users. Old ones would be nice but new ones are great too! Let's get'em in here lol

Yesterday I spent about two hours up and down in the new tab, looking for new content something different. Someone I was not already following or checking on a semi daily basis from a list I keep. It was rather disappointing.

yea i have done this too, so many times and i am just getting disappointed. Add the fact that is time consuming cause all you see is plagiarists, scammers, and promoting shit. When i actually find one quality-good post i am so damn happy :p

Also, i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

Totally understandable, a couple weeks ago another steemian and I were talking about how every time our account values would get close to $650, it would go down, no matter how much steem we powered up.

I will be a very happy voter though when the price makes it's 180, if we have anyone left to make interesting post. I am not even super concerned about it being a quality post, just something real, something different something creative, something that is not stolen or cut and paste garbage.

Take a picture, describe it, say why you took it. I am just glad there are a heck of a lot fewer just blanket "quotes" from famous people, with no reason at all as to why they posted the quote, Those were so annoying. If you are having a hard time finding things some of the post for @tattoodjay #wednesdaywalk are pretty interesting. Some nice pictures also. That at least covers one day.

Cheers mate the platform does seem to be getting quieter, but I to feel it will rebound and I am staying for the long term, that said the nest couple of weeks I may be quieter on here but thats just because I am going to be busy and wont have as much time as normal.

That and holidays are coming up, family visits, and shopping and all that other late november December, Oh Yeah, I have a real life.LoL Things to do. Understandable

Ohh yeah it will be even quieter for the next couple of months I suspect for many of us, real life has to take priority

In a way i can guarantee that the prices will increase (this happens all the time :P) and steem will at least worth once again 1$ I remember when the prices exploded and sbd worth around 8-10$ and steem 3-4$ my account worth was over 60k. During that time i though, i am gonna get rich :P but the reality him me with the decline!

I am thankful that most of the dumbasses with the quotes and single photos left the platform. I prefer people that care about the community more. My issue is that the way this is progressing call it use of dapps,automation,interface we aren't solving any actual problems and steem-steemit has way more potentials than this. I will also follow both you and @tattoodjay cause when somebody recommends someone in here always pays off!

Been there. Done that. Had the same reaction. Maybe I was following in your footsteps.

I ve just avoid trending... Only hot content (low paid but real engagement) and ill mostly use steem tag...

Yes☝️

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yeahh!

i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

Thank you 🙏

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I'm active to the max!

ahh how i missed you :P i tried to exclude people that i follow and know their 100% active :P

😊got me

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great!

Also, i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

Its sad that the steem powers that be think faking things is just as good as organic truth.
Likely if the full truth was known none of us would be here.

possibly yeah!

Hellooo I'm here again!!! :PP

εισαι βασικος παιχτης εσυ :P

haha Oh yeah! :P

I consider myself to be an active user!

that's great!

Also, i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

I agree with you 100% and you would always be welcome to stop by my page! Upvotes or no upvotes!

:P

Is this all right?

yep :P

Another Korean that replied! i already said this 3-4 times but you guys have such a strong community. Many of you were among the top 400 active users, it's amazing! What's your secret? :P

I wanna check your posts but sadly i can't read Korean :( if you still have some Koreans to suggest that you find interesting and write in English i would appreciate it. I really like your culture!

Thank you for your love of culture.
I am happy to be interested.

To communicate in English
I didn't think about it.

Because it is written in Korean
I was playing steam.
I'm going to do that.

But
About me with you
If anyone is interested,
Think about it, make an account,
I will try to find a way.

Ah, and
for some secret
if so

to say that

I'm doing it!

Trust me, I'm a doctor.

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I’m here baby!! 😂😂😂

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f@@ yeah! another active one!

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It is true that are not a lot of users in here and everyone is spread all over the different Dapps and their own communities. This happen all over the Internet. That's why we need more users joining the platform. We cannot wait that everyone will be doing a life from the Internet so it is up to us the creators to keep our audiences happy and engaged 😉 but now all we can do is to keep promoting outside the blockchain and create engaging content that people will want to comment, like and share no matter if there is a reward or not 😉

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i think one of the issues i try to highlight is the automation. Like in real life automation sure makes things easier but also makes people distant. That's happening in here as well cause we tend not to keep a balance over things we are doing. I remember when i first joined that everyone was so full of life, motivated and there was great interaction. Now as i see it, it's extremely hard to get even one new person to comment on your post (except if you use bid-bots and are in trending page or you have a whale friend that will resteem it). It doesn't matter so much the quality of your post because mostly nobody even bothers to read it :p let alone commenting. Thus i wanna show to others that this is a real issue as well as the fact that the actual daily active users are less than 10k.

Also it's hard for new users to enter, first of all the trending page is extremely misleading, secondly the RC system for them isn't that helpful and they will also have to deal with finding an audience which is extremely hard for the reasons above. Thus they will probably use a dapp that make them more distant! (I am not against dapps but the way some people using them, still it's their decision to make not mine)

i won't upvote the comment due to the low prices but i promise to check your posts upvote and comment some of them! (engagement and interaction is always better!)

Do you only want to know if the names on your list are active?

I think that most of the 'very' active accounts are limited in the sense that they concentrate on a number of friends etc.

I make from 1 to 4 posts a day and each one, when I submit, the page goes to New posts and I usually find from 3 to xxx to vote or comment on. To me, that is all I can do - plus commenting to a few friends.

I also think that since Steemit is being turned into a Community platform, if you are hoping to get results, you'll have to join a community - I'm not a joiner, I prefer to be a lone wolf...

why i don't follow you? :P

Everyone is welcome to make a comment! I just wanted to see how many of the "most active users" in here will reply when i tag them, cause if you can check in my first experiment there is not a single one of them.

That means that nobody is bother to search for new posts. I get that they already have some people they follow but in order to achieve greatness we need to keep getting forward! Also most of these accounts have quite some sp (many of them are dolphins), that means they can easily adapt their voting power to reward some others.

My real issue though is the automation and the balance that seems to be lost. We have dapps/curations trails/autovoting services that mostly everybody use and thus the things people doing manually have declined. The way i see it most people will turn to the above ways because simply it's less effort and better rewards. Although the reward part could be greater with interaction and activity cause that's what in first place kept the ones that they here till now and not the money aspect!

Your first sentence shows you did not understand my comment and I feel you personalised the discussion, as if I were reacting to you commenting or not commenting to me, whereas I was giving my argument as to why I do not feel I am part of a community. - and do not feel I want to be. I've been asked to join two (not the greek one) and I refused, even though I would have earned ten times more than I do.

As with real life, I have my circle of friends, my circle of acquaintances and then, vaguely in the background, a sense of community for whom I'll show up on Οχι day - in other words, I give what I get.

It is why I said I prefer to be a lone wolf - if I keep to myself, I don't have to worry about people misunderstanding me and picking fights...as happened when I first joined. But, I always show the courtesy of replying to all comments and, if I like the post I read and I have something pertinent to say, I will comment.

Steemit has tried to trivialise and discourage people from making comments, so we (in general) are only reacting to the way this platform works. You think I have misunderstood how Steemit works? Then perhaps you can explain why I can give you my tiny vote of 1c to your post and you get to keep it, but if my upvote on a comment is less than2.5 cents it gets thrown back into the pool? Those tiny rewards for comments would have encouraged better comments between us.

no no i completely understand your point. My first sentence was like a more rhetorical question cause i have definitely see you around here + i know you are Greek and i try to follow and support other Greeks. So when i saw the comment and the name i automatically thought what i wrote :P

Regarding the other things that i mentioned it's my personal opinion that i believe holds some substance and value concerning why there is less activity and stuff. In conclusion i think the drop in prices+automation+dapps+how people use the dapps is the answer!

I cannot see that Steemit could, even under different circumstances, have weathered the massive drop in values in crypto-currencies without being affected. However, much of the drop is happening in the last 10 days and I do not pretend to understand why.

In general, using a bit of business common sense, I would say prices drop when nobody wants to buy and there are more sellers than usual. I doubt it is us small members who are causing the drop, sales must be in the high numbers and so we do not qualify,.

Rotise ton Niko kai tha sou pei, prospatho na min fertho aschima pros kanenan edo, alla orismenes fores den ekfrazome sosta...kai etsi min to pareis strava oti kai na po.

:)

δν παρεξηγουμε μην ανησυχεις κ γενικα προσπαθω να υπεραναλυω οσο μπορω να παντα για να μν παρεξηγηθω κ εγω για αυτο κ γραφω τεραστια comments. Σε αυτο π εγραψα παραπανω δν λεω οτι οι τιμες του steem επεσαν λογω καποιων ατομων εδω, αυτο που λεω ειναι οτι λογω των χαμηλων τιμων, της αυτοματοποιησης σε ολα ,των dapp και του πως τις χρησιμοποιει ο καθενας εχει πεσει η ενεργητικοτητα των χρηστων!

Oh here is your post ;-) you know what I think... Agree with you.
... and I'm an active user too.
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hahaha! thanks for replying to that post and yea i know what you think! I don't know why i haven't followed you sooner cause i definitely have seen you around here! It's never too late though!

if you also notice the SMT telegram channel (with ned in it), it's practically dead..
i'm not too surprised because it's a serious bear market for all crypto.
but unless something real exciting happens for steem, it could be in real trouble 😦

if you also notice the SMT telegram channel (with ned in it), it's practically dead..

hehe i don't even knew about this channel :P