I have been a Steemian for 5 months. Not a long time. I’m still a newbie and just plankton in Steemit. I don’t know how to get success in this platform because I have not succeeded yet, but I have been here long enough to know for sure what will make you fail. I write this post to give you a frankly advice: Stop doing the things bellow.
Comment as abusing
Like any social network else, we keep posting on Steemit but most of us doesn’t know or meet each other in person. So, when you are still a new one, how to engage with the community where you don’t even know anyone? The only one way is commenting. We use comment to share about our thinking, opinion, discuss about some point of view, issues and after that getting to know each other. That is way to get engagement, follower and then upvoter.
That sounds really good. Commenting is seen as a great method to start in this platform, right? But what are you doing with commenting. It is great way to connect with others but not for abusing.
When I write something and post on Steemit. I show my own self, tell my personal stories. I want to use my post to connect with people and really wish for someone will read it. I share and I need to be shared too. I love to communicate and discuss with people. I would like to read comment which is a proof that they did read my post and really do understand what I share. With someone like that, I’m always willing to take a look in their blog to know who they are, follow them to keep being in touch and support them too.
But this is what I have read in my post recently.
Begging to get upvote
As I said, I just a plankton in this platform. I am not a whale or dolphin but I’m pretty sure that begging is the most unlikely to get upvote.
“Plzz upvote me”
“Plz check my blog”
Begging by commenting, begging by sending message, so on. I don’t know why. I wonder if they really think it works. Seriously???. How can they think that Whale or Dolphin will give them some pity upvote because of their begging? They don’t even care. With me, begging is the worst thing. When I joined in Steemit in the first time, even though I saw my posts was dying with pay out is 0$, I had never brought my post links to anywhere, anyone to spam “plz upvote me”. Why you make yourself so small? And it doesn’t even work. Stop being a beggar.
Acting like I owe you something
Recently, I have received some comment and msg such as: “I upvoted you. Upvote me back”; “I always upvote you, but why don’t you upvote me?” Come one. You go to my post, skip my content and scroll down quickly to comment, and your comment is just about upvoting exchange. It is not what I’m looking forward. And it is not good manner either. There is no guarantee about if you upvote someone, they will upvote you back. So don’t claim for upvoting as an exchange while you don’t even have a deal with them.
If you are out of patience, you can pretend that you care me, care about my post as well, then mention aimlessly about upvote. I’m smart enough to know what you want and still ok with it. But if you just come in and all you leave in my post is “upvote me back”. Plzz. I don’t owe you. Get out.
I always repay someones who keep supporting me loyally. I know how to show my appreciation, I upvoting them in return for their kindness without any request from them. I also try to get closer with whale and dolphin by commenting their post to make them gradually realize who I am, upvoting their posts to make them know that I keep supporting them. But I have never left a comment “upvote me back” in their post. They don’t have obligation to return anything for me. No one has that obligation. Keep supporting them or not. That is up to you. Please don’t show clearly that you are taking advantage of them even though actually you are.
You dont want to fail here, do you? So stop doing it!
I left Facebook, Instagram,.. to come in Steemit. With me it is a great opportunity. I can get reward for spending my time on it. I can earn money by doing something I love the most is writing. Steemit open for me a big chance to discuss, communicate and share with people over the world. I don’t like what people are doing – making it worse, making it become an exchange just for money but not any real value which is considered as a foundation for development of Steemit. We can gain more things if we work together, support and help each other, but not in this wrong way.
Contributing good content, telling your own story, making effort and trying to connect with others. Don’t let money control you to be a spammer, abuse-er, beggar. Steemit doesn’t charge us anything to upvote each other (just about voting power to avoid abusing), but if you keep doing stupid things like this, you may not get any because you are annoying, you don’t even know how to behave yourself. Don’t make others not even want to upvote you even though it is free.
This is a thought provoking post. I am a new user and I agree with your points regarding spam commenting and spam post. Steemit platform is full of it. I must confess I am guilty of this myself sometimes. But the real question we should ask is why people are doing it? Let me address in a few points:
You started in Sep 2017, I started in Jan 2018; you know this already how incredibly hard it is to get a upvote or comment. Most people are doing it for the money (read easy money) and the system rewards for spam (read volume, not quality) at least to some extent;
I got to be careful with the next comment here; but the reward system is very much pyramid like and it is rainbows and unicorn at the top and fairly dark and depressing at the bottom;
Don't get me wrong, I think this platform is a wonderful concept but it is so hard to keep it clean; just think of Facebook and Twitter in terms of content; there is still great content there, but man ...the junk you have to deal with! 4) Many people here are not writers (including me) they just suddenly found out writing pays, commenting pays! Bingo!
I personally stumbled into steemit following a youtuber who I follow regularly. I am here for the content. I am finding excellent content here. But we all must actively flight the junk.
PS. I will self up vote this comment, but is it the right thing to do?
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I got your points. Let me share u somethings
P.s: it is totally fine if u think your comment deserve a vote. ^^ I vote u too. For your points 😉
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hanggggbeeee; thank you for the reply. I am totally patient with this platform. I am actually more interested in the content and technology that this platform offers than the money side of it. I mostly write about trading which I have been doing off and on for some time now as a hobby mostly.
I wish if I could design a filter about content, a proper human induced filter as opposed to a bot, then we can filter a whole lot of it.
By largest concern outside of the general degradation of the content by spam/poor content is the potential fight back from Facebook and Google/Youtube. When 10-20% of the YouTube content creators leave YouTube for whatever reason and move to Steemit with their viewer, that will hit their bottom-line directly. 20% of YouTube Ad revenue is a very large number. YouTube will do anything in their power to protect their interest. They will probably fail, but I bet they will try very hard.
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^
This. I just started a week ago, to really use steemit actively, but this is something, which I was aware of quite fast. There are so many people just begging all over the place instead of delivering high-quality content. Sure, with some of my posts I got lucky so far and received a decent amount of attention after only a short time, but I think (or hope), that's mainly because I was able to post something valuable.
Even if I write something, which takes me several hours to finish and don't get much out of it - it's still alright, because I've a passion for writing and education. It's never a waste of time, even if you don't get money out of it and I think, it should never be the main purpose of writing at all.
Just do, what you love to do, keep on in delivering good content and success will come almost inevitably at some point. Therefore, I'd agree with your claims :)
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I see myself in your comment. Feel like your comment was writen by me lol.
Anyway, Steemit gives us reward which is much more better than what we deserve. Even with a few cents. If we post it in facebook or instagram,.. who gonna give us that a few cents? As someone said that keep following your passion. Success will follow you. It may not be true but sounds inspiring. Right? :))
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Well, that's because, we probably share a similar mindset here :)
When I discovered Steemit, I was like "wait, I've written so much on my Facebook page and only ever got some attention for it - now I can still write, get attention and eventually make some money - that's amazing :D
But some people tend to be really annyoing because of that - today I received an invite from a random guy on Facebook, who begged me to follow and upvote him. Nope. Definitely not gonna happen. I'm honestly asking myself, if people have no shame anymore.
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But how can I not do stupid things if I am a stupid person. That would go against my nature.
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haha you are really something else
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he made me change my tittle right away. lol. I dont want to be too harsh.
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your comment makes me think a bit about it. so i decide to edit it. i dont want to against nature. :)))
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hahaha
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lol
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bro... I'm with you there... this is my first day on steem and already i see a bunch of spam comments. its like everyone is playing a roll of goody too shoes.
but check it out. this kind of culture is going to be built-in to this very platform i believe. because it is a system based around money... everyone sees the dollar signs and trys posting something or commenting something just to rake in a few extra bucks... as long as that dollar amount is visible right underneath every post (including this one) i think this type of behavior with have a prolonged existence here.
unfortunately...
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you are totally right. because it relates tightly, deeply with money. so absolutely people will care about money. but we should know what is best way to earn. those things I mentioned above, dont even work.
be wiser to create relationship here and then they will be able to earn more.
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of course i agree with that. but heres the thing... for every 1 person who is actually trying to help the community and the platform grow there are like 10 more who just download clips from youtube and post it up here to get some money. (which i have seen done.) i just hope that those types of things get weeded out eventually.
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They can do that to earn a few cents. But they cant do it for a long term. They will be nothing if keep doing it. We choose harder path to build our blog, it will be hard in first time since we need to spend a lot of time. But it will pay off. We tell our own personal stories, provide original content, show ourselves in our blog. The “real” person will be able to engage with people. People want to connect with real things. Not with a fake or copy. ^^ keep doing your work. Dont care about them and dont follow them
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i noooo seriously lol tell me about it I'm still stuck at 25 rep... i have my intro movie all set and done but I'm worried it won't get anywhere with this rep level so I'm holding back on the upload lol.
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I appreciate you contributing to the greater good of the Steemit community. Looking like you are on your way to making yourself into at least a dolphin and who knows maybe whale status is right around the corner for you. I always regard those who ask for upvotes and follows to be unworthy of my attention and that they will get what they deserve without me having to worry about it. I am also a newb to Steemit so I can only imagine how this can be agitating. All the best to you.
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I still a plankton tho. :)))) there are a lot of things I need to learn more in Steemit. I know with newbie, they may not mean to be annoying. they may just want to succeed. But they do it in the wrong way. And with a bit experience i have in this platform. I want to share it. all of us always need to keep learning.
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I like your post because it is true , to the point and from the heart without BS. I read your post yesterday about marriage. Did not comment wanted to see more from you. and now I have. with my respects to your insights
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oh. thank you for supporting me. Hope u have great time here. ^^
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Thank you! This is really helpful for me as a newbie to start steem it.
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Yeah your right i really hate people beg for an upvote. Im still a newbee here on steemit and i think your tips would help me alot.. your also right that when commenting it should be a learning our your idea of what you read in the article not just saying like "thanks for this post." Im new here on steemit but i use commenting to earn.. because the article that i made doesn't earn a single cent.. need to communicate to other people first and make friends so they can check my blog. Thank you, looking forward for your next article. :')
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I took a look in your blog. you seem to tend to post with stepshot. i think u should put more content to get more follower because the way to connect is showing yourself. then people have something to comment about it. ^^.
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Yeah i was busy on my studies and only have a short time on doing long post. But i appreciate your help @hangggbeeee any tips on how to gain more followers?
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I think only one tip to get follower is commenting. Hahaa. Just go and comment a lot. Especially find posts in some tag which u tend to post in. Because u will have common things with them and it will be quite easy to make relationship.
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Thanks for sharing this girl! It does annoy me to see some of the examples you pointed out. I do believe eventually people are gonna learn how to behave accordingly and focus more on giving value to fellow Steemians because they'll eventually know its the best way to do it, not begging for value that most people do. Keep up the great work and more power to you!
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I total agree with your views on this @hangggbeeee, spamming is not the way to go. I actually blogged about how to get noticed for minnows on post interaction.
@hanggggbeeee, I encourage you to flag this spammers, if you don't like it. That should keep them away from spamming your blogs. cheers
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i have just taken a look. you are on the right way. keep it on ^^
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Just saw your other post about @newhope, great to know he/she did send back your steem. :)
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yea. i'm still happy now. lol
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Steemit all the way.
Great post tnx for sharing I just upvoted.
Check out my new posts if you can plz
upvote resteem comment @gclipse
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you are trolling me, arent you?
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beautifull post
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i dont know what is beautiful in my post :)))
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Thank you so much for the post. Always learning from other newbies.
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Nice post and thank you for your advice
Please follow me and have a look my blog and comment me
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I think my post is totally a failure. lol
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haha
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I really appreciate your advice @hanggggbeeee ... I learn something from you... BLESS
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thank you. I just share some experience ^^
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Thanks. New here and still not sure how it exactly works but the reasons and examples you give are clear enough. I just read another post about bots and the whole thing is lots to consume. But as you stated, the main thing I want to do here is have my words read. The dollar dollar bills are a bonus. Take care.
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it took 2 months to me know how this platform works. and until now i have not known exactly. :))
Thank you!
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I would say that you have success here! You have the amazing level for 4 months!
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it may be because I have never do those things. lol
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You are honest, I hope newbies like me will benefit from you
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@momar your a newbie? what the fig? get out of here lol if your a noob I'm fricken not even born yet! stop being so modest you fricken dolphin! ;D
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Hi @taz-an. Unless your posts appear on trending page unfortunately you are newbie lol
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haha thats the measurement for experience? thats like saying i want a doctor that has experience so he has to be doctor oz :D
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haha. you are not newbie anymore. I just wrote "i'm newbie" above to be humble a bit. lol
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Hi @hangggbeeee lol that’s Right i’m newbie, and You've become adult Hehehe.... u r smart and i can see you driving right direction
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thank you. see? people realize that we are pretending. :)))
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dmania spaming is welcome aslong there good memes!
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if they bring good stuff, they wont be considered as a spam even though they do it constantly :)))
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I share with you the same sentiments. It's a little off to get comments like that especially if you've poured your heart and soul on what you posted. Excited to read inputs from other users and you get a comment to upvote theirs.
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thats true, oh the feels
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yea. you know the feeling when i wrote some post with my all emotion. then post it to share with friend on steemit. but no one really read it. and comment is just about upvote. it is so.... :)))
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You just read my heart, it burns when i see people spamming posts especially this word "please upvote" ...goshhh, i hate it. I believe someone will be changed by your kind words. You did well @hanggggbeeee...see name..smiles
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haha. thank you. this situation is not happen with only me. speak out like this my help them realize àn srtop doing it :))
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thanks for the inspiration @hanggggbeeee!! Im back to steemit. Upvoting this and giving it a resteem just for old times sake. Thanks for all you do!
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thank you. ^^
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I wish i had read this post earlier, i could have avoided alot of mistakes on steemit. I have spent more than 6 months on this platform and i have made very little growth. Thanks for the advice. I have bookmarked this post so that i can read over and over again
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everyone have made mistakes. we should keep making mistake because when we make mistake, we will learn something new. but just dont do it again. dont do the same thing. :)
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This is something that was going through my mind. I was actually going to write a post on this matter myself. The thing is people should use this platform as a social network getting to know others and building bonds and friendships. Earning money and getting upvotes should always be secondary.
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money is important. but we should know how to behave ourselves, right? :))
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Earning respect and honor is important because this in turn build's a trust and friendship which in return earns money. In order for someone to earn respect and honor he has to behave.
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So true @hanggggbeeee, it drives me crazy. I posted an article last week of about 1500 words within one minute a guy post, "great read bro"It's just dumb. Keep up the great work. Upvoted.
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even that is compliment but feel so down. hahaa
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nice article, really help the newbie here
i got a question sir
what if i comment like this to a post
https://steemit.com/food/@samsul85/es-cream-b826d5db7e302
because the post is lacked content, and i see somepeople doing it too
https://steemit.com/colorchallenge/@gade/colorchallenge-tuesday-orange
so what do you think, is it bad or good ?
its a sarcasm, but is it bad ?
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I think even with collorchallenge or anything. they should put some content. or atleast their photo must be really outstanding and original. they can post only photo with stepshot. but it is not good for a long term. soetimes is fine.
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Thank you for your advice
I want to be a good steemiter:D
Please come to my blog and comment me
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in the first time, it is really hard for u. i have just take a look in your blog and give a small gift. have a nice day!
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hmmmm.... this is the very definition of irony lol. the very thing this blog post was saying NOT to do. have you learned nothing anakin! :D
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yea. lol. but she is totally newbie. i dont want to be too harsh. :)))
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eh... im not that nice :D
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Great post. Upvote me! LOL Or not. I just can't imagine the universe where this works. Even a little or for a while.
Most times I just ignore it. Like it didn't even happen. Sometimes it really annoys me (like the guy in your comments who did it for real :)). The only thing I know is that it won't last long. Good content and good comments will be the boss here, and the others will adapt or die.
Thanks for a 'to the point' post on one of the aggravations of Steemit. I truly do appreciate your time and effort.
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Yea. I was also like u. I didnt want to be too harsh. And think ok just ignore it. But it is getting worse if we keeo ignoring it. You know, I wrote a post about I lost all Steem i have by mistake. Then some commented “nice post. follow me and upvote each other”. I thought “Seriously? Wth is nice here?” lol.
Btw, thank you ^^
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Do you know when you start to actually get some traction one steemit? When you start to get a lot of these random comments.
First time reader here, but i like the way you write. I think i Will wait and ser what Else you have to say.
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I have real supporter after 2 months in Steemit. I have seen this kind of comment right after I joined steemit and it gradually get more and more. ^^
Thank you for reading my post 😊
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This reminds me a lot of the time when it started to get easy to have a webpage/blog. Almost every blog were flooded with comments like those.
I think my account is starting to get some attention, because these comments have started to appear on my posts.
These people are weird, and they don't seem to learn. And they always have my flag (when i have enough vote power).
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This is a very interesting topic to talk about @hanggggbeeee.
I agree with you in something: one doesn't waste many hours writing just because. One writes a post hoping to pay all Steemians' attention with an interesting topic, photo or anything one considers it's good to be read.
We are not obliged to follow someone just for follow and one has no right to claim a "mandatory follow". That means just one thing: you despise your own effort!!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts about this kind of issues and hope we can grow together more than ever!! Greetings!!
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Came here after your post got onto The Daily Qurator.
Read and agree with most of your points. I just did a check and currently there are 733836 steemit users, which I think more than half are just spammers, or like you said, beggers. Totally hate it. It is such behaviours that deter most dolphins/whales from responding to others.
Anyway, I am amazed to see you doing so well in just a few months on steemit. Great job! Would appreciate some tips or advice. :)
Followed you for more contents.
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You make very valid points here @hanggggbeeee. It's not easy to become seen among so many "voices" so people often resort to "trickery"because they become impatient.
Unfortunately, it seems like this will always be a debate between people who are "only here for the money" and people who genuinely care about the content and are here because Steemit is a social content platform.
Greed doesn't work, especially in the long term. Perhaps one of the nice things about Steemit is that it seems almost "self-regulating:" The people who care about content continue forward and make connections and slowly gain a following. Meanwhile, the spammers end up getting angry and give up after a while, especially if they put their garbage on the wrong dolphin/whale's post and get flagged.
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You have done a pretty good job in only 5 months :)
While I was reading this post I was nodding my head in approval and nodding and nodding. I get your anger, well, not so anger but annoyment with spammers. When I came here, the best thing I found was quality content. This is not like facebook or instagram or anything else, this is a place where you can actually read interesting stuff and learn something so yes, when somebody doesn't fall into those categories, it annoys me too.
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Well, after taking a look at this thread and reading some comments, im agree with most of you all.
But the thing is.. as some of you said already, i know how hard is to start on steemit, but yeah i would never do spam or any of that weird stuff that most of the newbies does.
I used to do some bad posts at first, cause well we all look for easy money, but after a while you notice that, there will be people who may click on your posts, or just joins ur profile and well, would be cool if at least they find something interesting, instead of just lose their time with ur bad content / comments.
But well, what can we do? I mean, complaining about it or flagging it feels just bad for me. I didnt flagged any of that weird commends from newbis, cause well, some of them just didnt know / understands that what they do is just wrong.
Anyways, i found you minutes ago @gythanobonfak you looks like a cool lady.
EDIT: And a sexy one too =)
Have a good day ;)
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@a-0-0 READ ABOVE GOOD INFO.....READ THIS POST ....you are resteeming everthing in your feed. you abused your voting and have none left but resteeming everything is not the answer
I hope this goes to him and he learns from reading if it does not sorry for using this information on here incorrectly to help someone in need
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More than the post I really enjoyed reading the comments. :-) The way you respond to the comments is really good and natural. :-)
I understand how communications are usually built. I found one of your recent article interesting, so commented there. I received a very good reply from you. I was attracted a bit and was curious to visit your blog to see what you usually write about. After reading some of your articles and reply that you give to people who comment your post, now I start to feel "wow this person is very good. I think I should follow her articles". I think this is how communications are developed here in steemit and it all started with one good post. All like minded people join together and form a community.
So writing quality contents with just an intension to share knowledge keeping rewards as secondary is something that I take away from here. Thanks for spreading positivity. :-)
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Let's read https://steemit.com/steemcleaners/@steemcleaners/abuse-guide-2017-update
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Many thaks for sharing! It is very informative!
I am a newbie and it's very helpful.
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thanks for your sharing. Thanks for reminding me about this, because i sometimes want to do that :(
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