Why Things Like "I QUIT MY JOB!" & "I WILL BECOME A STEEMIT MILLIONAIRE" Will RUIN Everything!

in steemit •  8 years ago  (edited)
  • Steemit is a goldmine! -Wrong.
  • Steemit will make me a millionaire! -Wrong.
  • Steemit will make me THOUSANDS on each post! -Wrong.

I've had enough of this BS.

I'm sorry to say this but seriously.. WHAT THE F is going on here..?

@dollarvigilante, "the super steemian" has arrived.. And he made a shit ton of money.

This is how it all looked when I started to write this post.

$1439 after @berniesanders arrived.


I believe @dollarvigilante deserves everything he earned. He truly does. I know he put in a ton of effort to become this successful (outside of steemit) and I'm truly glad for him. He deserves it!

However..

He joined steemit, he made a ton of cash and he publish content to squeeze every single cent out of your pockets, like most internet marketers does. And he do this while he claims to be some super-steemian. The thing is, "overnight success" doesn't exist in "the real world". - On steemit? - Definitely!

That's also the thing.. It's called overnight success because the things you get "just happens". It's a fluke. It happens at random. It's luck. Overnight success doesn't exist elsewhere. You'll need to work HARD to get what you want. And no matter how hard you work, it's still very likely that you'll never end up with everything you've ever dreamed of.

What people needs to realize is that most of you won't have this overnight success. Most people will earn a few cents here and there.. And that's okay! - It's still more than you would ever have earned on Facebook or Twitter!

Take a look at this:

These are on the front page of Steemit. Your voice is worth SOMETHING. Note that I highlighted one specific word on the second screenshot. "CAN". You CAN make money. Everyone CAN. - That doesn't mean that you will!

People like @dollarvigilante, no matter how great he is, is here for one thing only. Money. - I thought this was the new social media platform? - Not the nearest ATM like he actually make it sound like in his posts.


"Want To Be A Steemillionaire? Here Are The Crucial Things To Do For Newbies on Steemit". If I would have published that, then I would have ditched that "Want To Be A Steemillionaire?" part.

This is not internet marketing. You are not writing your sales letters for a super-genius product here. You don't sell here. You can, but you don't.

You share things for free and you do it so others can benefit from it. In one way or another. You share your lifestories, jokes, thoughts, ideas, photos and recipes and so on.. For that, you can be rewarded.

What you've done so far, on your fantastic journey, is to establish yourself as "the best steemian ever lived" more or less.. Due to 1 thing. That you've earned money.. based on.. wait for it.. Followers? (like you state in your "Want To Be A Steemillionaire?" post)..Nope. Luck? - There you go!

You earned money because of the whales and not because of your followers and subscribers from youtube or whatever. You probably got these whale-upvotes because you're famous. I give you that. You've worked hard to get to the point where you're at and you deserve every cent you've made so far. I give you that too.

But you can't state stupid things like "Want To Be A Steemillionaire?" and claim one of the reasons for it to be FOLLOWERS.

Like you did here:

"And the best way to do that is to use your other social media to tell all your friends, family and followers that you are now on Steemit and ask them to come over and join you and upvote your posts."

I'll even prove it for you..

As you can clearly see. All of the posts are being well-rewarded, no doubt about it.. But there's more to it. Notice that the post at the top has 5 votes and a bunch of more comments than the introduction post (the post at the bottom). Also noticed that the $-amount is about 50% LESS.

How come you ask..? - It's simple. Most of us steemians know this already. It's due to the steem power. You can get 500 votes and still earn less than $5..

I'll make it even easier for you to understand..

Starting to see my point..? - @guerrint had LESS votes and made $12,000 MORE than @dollarvigilante on his introduction.

WHALES ARE THE REASON FOR YOUR OVERNIGHT SUCCESS!!

  • And that's exactly how it is for everyone else.. Who've experienced similar or even better results.

I'll use @guerrint as an example once more..

THE FIRST STEEMIT MAKEUP TUTORIAL- bringing Youtubers to Steemit!! Tara is back! - $26,660

  • That's more than @dollarvigilante earned on any of his post so far. In fact, it's actually $4K less or so, to be the same amount as @dollarvigilante earned on all his post.

Another fun thing about this..

Take a look at @guerrint's blog. 5 posts in total. 4 weeks ago $26K. 3 weeks ago $14K. 2 days ago $2700..

She's addicted and she loves the money.. Sure she does. But why did her posts blow up like this?

I can't say for sure.. But what I believe at least is this..

  • She made something totally unique. And was the first one doing something like it. (The makeup video).

  • She continued to deliver unique content. (Steemit in the streets!)

  • She still delivers unique content. (Tara give a young child the best birthday ever.)

This is GREAT content. Period. She does something for the community. She brings people and she even spends her own money to give a random child his best birthday ever. That's one helluva advertising!


To talk about all the money you will earn on steemit is wrong. In my opinion it's even unethical and extremely unprofessional. Coming from someone like @dollarvigilante makes me both sad and angry.

  • Because he's famous, more famous than probably 80% on steemit so far, and due to the fact that he became an overnight success.. He's untouchable.. At least I thought so..

Remember how the recent post from @dollarvigilante looked like when I started to write this post?

  • For some reason, I just had to take another look before I published this .. So I did. And here's how it looked!

THANK YOU STEEMIT! ( @berniesanders, @smooth and @itsascam in particular).

Thank you for taking on the role as true leaders in this community.


Promote steemit for what it is. Steemit is the new social media platform where anyone can make money. It's possible. Not set in stone.


Best Regards,
hitmeasap

Authors get paid when people like you upvote their post.
If you enjoyed what you read here, create your account today and start earning FREE STEEM!
Sort Order:  
  ·  8 years ago (edited)

There is a lot of truth to what you write, but...the changing market value of STEEM has a lot to do with why some of those rewards are higher than others.

Still your message overall is one of bringing value that is original and valued by the community and on that I can't support you any more strongly.

Be aware though, your post is perpetuating the same sort of Steemit circlejerk. Bring value that is original and adds to Steemit, not just more posts discussing Steemit drama every day. You will get a weak upvote from me, expressing approval on the message, but I don't really want to reward all these introspective Steemit-centric posts any more, whether they come from @dollarvigilante or otherwise.

Thank you @smooth, I appreciate it.
I do see your point and I understand what you mean by the steemit drama. My intention with this post wasn't to bring more drama. Even if it might seem so. The reason for this post, was to make people aware of the process on steemit. Some people will have overnight success but most of the users on steemit won't have that luck.. And I don't want people to get the wrong idea about this place. People shouldn't join for the money. They should join for the same reason they joined facebook. Rewards will come later.

Also thank you for stating the changing market value. I totally missed that part!

May i ask how i can give a weak up vote to someone ?

Currently can only be done using the CLI (command line interface) wallet.

I installed it but i don't really understand how to use it. Thanks.

Good post, upvoted. Don't agree with it all but I support dialogue!

squeeze every single cent out of your pockets

That's a very odd way of looking at the incentive structure here. I don't think I've ever felt that way about up-voting someone.

Hey @blakemiles84, thanks for stopping by!
Well, honestly, I could obviously not know the actual feeling you've had when you upvote something and I can't know if what I've said is true either. I got that feeling from reading his post. Especially his latest one. He talks about steemit like it's easy to make money and it feels like he's promoting steemit by saying things like "come and earn a couple of thousands on your posts!", and that's just wrong. It's not that simple.

The dollar vigilante has over 20 years of experience in writing and shit. He is a well known figure in the anarchy movement. Given that most crypto places are full of right wing anarchists, he fits in really well. I hope he stays!

I would love to see him here too, and I'm sure he will stay. However, I would prefer to see a change in his approach. I don't think he should avertise this place as a personal ATM. With all the experience he has, I'm sure he'll produce a fantastic post within 24 hours that generates more than $10,000. And he deserves it! - But the approach he had so far is, in my opinion, wrong. If everyone started to think like that, then steemit would probably be doomed to fail.

Good article. I agree with you. I think this mentality will hurt steemit. It isn't the place to get rich quick without any effort. This is the wrong message.

There are more and more disappointed posts about steemit, people stopped using it because they don't get money. One poster even said that after 3 posts, he doesn't have time for this, he need to go back to work instead of steemit.
These people are here for the wrong reason: MONEY!

You should write because you love it. Share things you think is interesting. Earnings only an extra, most of us will only get cents. But it is still a great place, and if you contribute good posts, you have a chance to be noticed in the long run.

Thank you @spiz0r, I appreciate it and I agree with what you've said!

Haha! Loved your post ! Especially your thanks to the whales! Nice touch!dont forget money does make the world go around. And it can certainly bring out the worst in all of us! Steem on! ✌😉👏♨♨♨

Thank you, I'm glad you liked it. :)

yea, im sure his followers made him 30k with a steempower of 3.. In the long term that kind of behaviour could lead steemit to fail, people will only get here for the quick buck instead of doing it for the blog reasons

Yeah, I agree with you. The main reason to be here should be to interact with each other. Secondly, due to money. Not the other way around!

The thing that bothered me about Jeff's latest post was actually down in the comments.
There was a fellow that copy/pasted the same line over and over again (it was 22 times when I counted yesterday, he may have gone back in and done more), asking people to follow him and upvote all of his stuff, and he'd follow them and upvote all of their stuff in return.

That's not just hardcore spam, it's collusion.
And it hit me that if this is the kind of person/activity that Jeff's "how to make steemit money" posts are drawing, I don't want to reward that (even with my teeny little minnow vote).

Oh, I wasn't even aware of that.. Thanks for sharing. Yeah, that's definitely an unfortunate circumstance. :(

Well written article with visuals.

Is it safe to say that there is good whales and bad whales?

Hello & thank you very much. Well, I wouldn't say that. People have different opinions and different tastes. Some will like what others don't. Whales are whales, no matter their opinions and no matter how they vote. You could obviously think that they vote on the wrong topics and all that, but nothing is wrong actually. They vote on the content they like to vote on.

Thanks for sharing this. Very clear and to the point. It does seem like Steemit is like real life, it's not what you know but who you know.....

Yeah, but that's only half true. Already established steemians who've been providing superb content for a long time, they usually get upvotes from the whales. So yeah. You are half right on that part. :)

On the other hand, whales are also upvoting random people's content on a regular basis, so more new users are becoming more and more established for each day.

Hey that's good to know about random upvotes, maybe I've got a chance to make a couple nickels....

Thanks for sharing, and yeah. I agree with you. It's a small step.

Great article. Good to see that good content gets rewarded, not just popularity.

Thank you. Yeah, it is. And that's what all the whales are trying to do. They vote on content they like so more and more users will become established :)

Haha, dollarvigilante will be getting $127 for that Steemillionaire post in 30 more minutes. Let's see if he can take the psychological damage of not getting 5 or 4 figs in a single post. And let's see if he will still be here posting. I mean, how do you top the 5 articles already written? Hero to zero? I don't know. But not saying he does or does not deserve his success though.

I'm sure he'll do just fine and I hope he change his approach. I would love to read more from him. He's truly talented.. But I still believe he made a bad choice doing what he have done so far.. I know he will surprise us all shortly with an amazing story!

Let's see if he can take the psychological damage of not getting 5 or 4 figs in a single post.

And why are you so happy about him taking "the psychological damage"?

I'm not. Didn't say I was. But as others have said, all his posts make it seem that he implies Steemit to be a quick cash ATM. He's posted another recently. Good thing it's sarcasm, otherwise he will prove that that is what he is thinking.

Haha

I thought this^ was an indication of you being happy about it and wanting this to happen. I might be wrong though - you are the judge here, not me.

  ·  8 years ago (edited)

I liked your post. I disagree with most of it but I appreciate the way it was written.

However, when you say:

He joined steemit, he made a ton of cash and he published content to squeeze every single cent out of your pockets, like most internet marketers does.

Please note that @dollarvigilante just wrote some posts. When you imply he did it to "squeeze every single cent out of your pockets", you are assuming something malicious about his intentions - and you are in no position to do that. Do you claim to have some special access to his mind?

Many people seem to be upset with the way @dollarvigilante wrote his posts. And that's fine. I agree, they were not spectacular, nothing original really - just a manifestation of his excitement. But that's where his responsibility ends - he's just offered some writing to us.

It's not his fault that Steem users have chosen to award him this much money. Unless you can prove that he has bribed them somehow, in my eyes he has nothing to do with it. So why don't you direct your post to those who actually upvoted his posts to this ridiculous amount? The problem is not with @dollarvigilante , it's with us, the public who cast their votes.

@dollarvigilante is just a mirror, not the source of the problem.

Hello @innuendo, thank your for your comment. I appreciate it.

The main part with all of this, is the way he wrote it. Not that he wrote some posts. I understand that he publish posts and I know he's "one of the good guys" so to speak. I also think that he deserves every single cent he makes. He's been working his ass off, for a very long time, and I truly believe he's a great guy. In fact, I know he is.

It might have been wrong from my side, when I stated that specific sentence, as I don't have access to his mind.. But seriously speaking. If you look at any half decent internet marketer out there, you'll see that they're doing more or less the same thing as he did here. They state their success, they do it in a way so they sound like some "superior king" and they do it multiple times.. The fact is, that TDV did the same thing. At least in my book.

One post after another, about how much he made and how you could do it too. - At one point, which I've stated above, he also mentioned the followers. And yeah, it's true. Follower and recurring customers are essential in business.. but this isn't business in that way.. And I personally don't think that you should treat this as a business either. No matter how much money you make. - This is a social media platform. Not a "solve all your money troubles" solution.

I do agree on the part where you say that it's not his fault though. It's due to the users. He publish content and others vote on that. However, what he publish, is up to him.. I personally believe he published content for one reason only. To generate even more money. He said it himself too in the chat a few days ago. Something like "I love to make $10K for a post so I'll do a few more". I don't know the exact words he used, but the meaning of it is still the same. - He's looking for money.

The sad part here, in my personal opinion, is that I know that he'll make a FORTUNE on steemit if he shares stories from his life. Stories about how he became this successful to begin with for instance. Not on steemit, but as a businessman. I would love to hear stories about that.. But to hear something like "I'm a king on steemit because I've made a bunch of money" is just sad. Especially when he's been a member for less than a week. When he also states that you can make that much money if you have followers.. I just had to correct him as it's incorrect. - He made that money due to the whales. Not due to his youtube subscribers or due to his perfect writing skills or anything like that at all. - The whales gave him money. It's simple as that.

With all of this said.. I know that we on steemit will benefit from TDV.. I would just prefer if he gave us something besides the "steemit success" he had. I know he will and I look forward to his future contributions.

I personally believe he published content for one reason only. To generate even more money.

Even if this is true - who are we to judge him for this? Why do we care? Are posts "made just for money" somehow inferior to posts made for other reasons? This a dangerous territory - to judge people by their intentions.

For me the only valid question is this: did his posts bring any value to Steem? As of now, for me the answer is - not really. I think the first valuable post from him is the latest one - where he's being sarcastic. It's fun to read. If he did it just for the money - it's still fun to read.

Are you chasing the big trending posts? Analyze who votes, when, how much, get printscreens of these ? Use the whales names in your post ?

But you don't like the dollarvigilante behaviour ?

That's double standard behaviour.

This is not internet marketing. You are not writing your sales letters for a super-genius product here. You don't sell here. You can, but you don't.
You share things for free and you do it so others can benefit from it.

Perfect. Are you doing this ?

#hypocrisy or just #envy

Let's play here in STEEMIT disregard to what others games are.
So, just don't take it too seriously.

You know this guy ?

Fair play @fishborne, I give you that. However, it's not that simple. I found the posts disturbing. I've said it several times. He deserves every single cent he made so far. He's a great guy and all that.. but, I don't approve with his recent posts and the behaviour. No, I don't like the concept of bringing more people to steemit for the money.

Listen, I know that the money on steemit plays a major role to everyone posting and being active here. It's not like I hate money or anything like that.. With that said, I still believe this is a social media platform, where we should discuss, share and talk with each other about random things. Not only on the subject "Let's get money!" so to speak. This isn't a "get rich quick" thing.

And to answer your other questions. No. I don't analyze a thing. I know you can use catchawhale and things like that, and yeah, I've used it multiple times, but it's not for me. I've even said something about that in one of my previous posts. About hypocrisy, I don't personally think so, no. And no, I can't say that it's about envy either. If it would be because of that, then I'd use someone bigger than @dollarvigilante to discuss.

ok, we'll see what future brings. Will the steemians able to escape the run for the money trap and enjoy also the platform ?

We'll see. I said it before. I think STEEMIT is revolutionary and will be successful because if not it will be a very very much shame of people desire to free themselves.

Yeah, it's not logical. :P