I have millions of followers that consistently see the posts and videos I make about Steem.
When steemit devs started rewarding so called influencers at the beginning under the term "added value" I called that BS.
If these are really influencers with millions of followers, they do not need anyone's support on steemit, all they need "is to have their followers join and upvote them".
From the gutters of youtube, twitter, and other social media outlets we seem to attract the worst of the worst and reward them in the hopes they bring in their imaginary followers.
I have been around the social media marketing realm for years and know the ins and outs of buying followers and faking views and so on...
We need to stop this habit of bringing self absorbed losers on this platform and pretending it's added value, it's not. I will not name the obvious from day one. But let's look at the latest joke...
This great YouTube success who has millions of followers and making videos like these on youtube:
Not that I never ever heard of this guy neither in crypto nor on youtube before, here he is complaining about abuse which is preventing him from being the #1 author on Steemit.
What added value content we expect from this great youtube success :
https://steemit.com/photography/@jerrybanfield/ready-for-work
To be fair though he admitted it was not his proudest moment:
I posted a picture in my boxers and got $344 on it, so I'm not coming to you as some saint here who is just perfect.
....
After reading his rant I did look at his youtube profile, I wanted to know what this latest migrant from youtube success does:
I found a collection of nothing, which explains his latest job description:
I have millions of followers that consistently see the posts and videos I make about Steem. 2 or 3 times a day I make a new post with nearly all of my creative energy funneled into Steem. In other words, being a witness and author on Steem is what I do full time.
A full time witness and author:
let's tackle the witness part first...
OK he is not really a top witness just a back up so not a big issue there, lets look at his other full time job a steemit author:
The feedback on the video was so positive that I spent about $100 to get this post created for you here out of the video, and then edited it prior to publishing! I appreciate you being here and I hope you have a wonderful day today.
hmmm he paid someone $100 to make the post and he edited it? reminds me of another influencer who is too drunk to know what he is talking about...
OK OK he did point out some abuse which btw was already known and discussed, but let's give him some credit, what kind of abuse did he discover?
How is it @mindhunter can make photo posts like this, earning four dollars and getting 25 views, and becoming the top author?
Yes this abuse can only be topped by this:
but that's not the part that is bad, these abusers are doing something worse they are "upvoting themselves"!
could these abusers be followers of some successful youtuber who recommends "upvoting yourself"?
watch the first five minutes of this video:
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maybe we have a case where the student outdone the teacher, I do not know. But one thing is certain this teacher will expose you to the public if you are standing between him and the #1 spot on steemit
What should we do as a community?
we should let these self absorbed millions of followers successful and amazing migrants bring their own support to steemit. Trust me if they are true to what they claim, 1 million upvotes from minnows will put them above and beyond what they need.
Meanwhile we should continue to support authors from the steemit community who have proven themselves. Those who do not flash imaginary following elsewhere, or who's only claim to fame is not fake views elsewhere....
Let's dump this fake added value garbage and go back to the true meaning of social media, social media that tolerates the good and the bad, and let growth police itself.
Yes we do have room for everyone, nobody needs to pay someone a $100 to to be his ghost writer... and people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
no nonsense ....
Well, you are talking about @jerrybanfield. I see that you have not mentioned his name, why? Are you afraid of downvotes or you don't believe in your point of view?
I don't know about the tricks to increase the followers on Youtube or increasing the number of views. And yes, I may agree partly with you, but not totally. You asked to watch the video just for 5 minutes, but I watched it for 10 minutes.
And what I found is, he is not asking you to self upvote your posts, in the next 5 minutes he explains that how upvoting other's comments and posts can bring you more money. I think you are biased in your approach here. He was the number 4 in the top author's list, and you are not, maybe it is not he who is ranting, but you. At least he has the followers and so many things to show to us, what you have?
I am angry with you, because I followed you for some good stuff. You think that the matter of @mindhunter was known before, but you didn't let me know about it, he let me know it first. And that $100 he paid for the article, deserves credit, not criticism, because it shows how much he values the quality of content here. You can always buy the time with money when you don't have much.
Look at the number of pictures he posts in his articles, and what you have here? You just took the screenshots of his picture or video and earned $200. I am a minnow, but I must say that your article is a BS. Downvote me if you want, I am a minnow, but I can't appreciate your BS just to get a upvote.
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"I think you are biased in your approach here."
Agreed. He conveniently neglected to point out that Jerry just discovered the same thing we all did.
I made a similar post after HF19 pointing out that the interest from self-voting was now over 150%, and could this be right?
Also, the whataboutism here is nuts. Why do you handwave #1 and #2 away and decide to go after #4, Jerry? Could it be a personal reason that he rubs you the wrong way?
How is paying more money to have someone help edit his posts (so you can read them better) or witness (so it runs better) bad?
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I did not mention his name because it's not about Jerry, he is not the only fake social media success we have here. I am not addressing Jerry or asking him to defend himself, I am addressing the people who chase a mirage. If we want celebrities to come to Steemit we need people, we need an audience, we do not need cheerleaders. Once you understand that, then you will understand my point. As for fear of downvotes, how is mentioning his name will contribute to me getting downvotes?
Man this part is what ticked me about Jerry's post, according to this @mindhunter is the #1 author and Jerry is not so what Jerry has? followers :/ exactly my point. Followers who think they can make hundreds of dollars a day on steemit following some guide. If that is the growth we are looking for then fine.
I come from a background in crypto where airing dirty laundry is a bad thing. You think I should track all the abuse and make posts about it to keep you informed. My post was not an attack on Jerry, it was simply to show him anyone can do these dirty laundry posts. We need to leave this garbage off the platform and let people who know about it handle it their own way. There are proper channels to report abuse. There are people working night and day to prevent it, and the fact they do not post about it is because it has to be handled the right way. Not spamming garbage on the front page. Did that post solve the abuse? and you knowing about it, did it help solve it?
you and I both know my post was not about getting upvotes, and the number of pictures in his posts! what exactly that has to do with anything? My article is BS just like his, I only fed him a spoonful of the dish he was serving my friend. I do not like drama, especially drama that goes on the front page, because it's bad for steemit image, sometimes you have to fight a disease with a little serving of the same bacteria that causes it so we become immune from it. I do not downvote anyone. Maybe I have done 2 or 3 downvotes since I joined steemit in the early days and they were in the testing category when Dan asked us to downvote his test posts in the witness channel.
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Dude I feel the same way as you man. Steemit nowadays is full of fucking fraud and non quality posts but still they managed to have their stupid followers upvoting on them. That guy is obviously just to provoke you. Shame on you guys who upvoted sanjay post. It's obviously so immature that you think this author will scare of downvotes. Why did he even put it up in the first place if scared of downvotes. Sanjay argument is purely immature and BS. Guys look at his profile and wallet, wouldn't it be more obvious that this guy is trying to get more upvotes than the guy who already owned 200$ per post? Are you guys really so dumb to see the drama played out here?
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@mindhunter isn't doing anything wrong. He buys votes from a whale. How is this different from booster or randowhale etc.?
Banfield is attempting to whip up a mob with pitchforks without actually bothering to find out what is actually going on.
The fact is that the platform code allows people to vote for themselves and it allows people to post multiple times a day and it allows payouts on comments, so doing so cannot be wrong. Jerry is trying to make it morally wrong by saying that only the most popular people deserve high payouts. He is trying to equate his popularity with the quality of his posts, which is a simplistic approach to attaching value.
In his post Jerry tries to equate himself with the hugely popular @papa-pepper so that people will think that he is talking sense, but even the pepper, whose posts are great, sometimes has videos in posts with under 10 views, so, not exactly popular.
Would Jerry say that Papa didn't deserve the high payout for those unpopular videos? Like I said, his attitude is simplistic and badly thought out and probably based in greed.
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"tries to equate himself with the hugely popular @papa-pepper"
Which he successfully does...with inarguable math...
"Would Jerry say that Papa didn't deserve the high payout for those unpopular videos? "
Obviously not, since he didn't even say that about Mindhunter and tamim.
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The last time I checked personality doesn't equal maths and a large part of his argument against those guys was their lack of votes compared to payout, in his post, "Meet Steem's #1 Author!"
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I think reward earned per view is one of many valid metrics to look at when evaluating the content of a poster.
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It's undoubtedly one, but in it's evaluation how do you separate people that voted and liked the post from people who merely voted for the curation rewards?
Or, like Jerry, do you think that popularity = quality?
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"It's undoubtedly one, but in it's evaluation how do you separate people that voted and liked the post from people who merely voted for the curation rewards?"
I'm afraid you can't, at present. I've been posting a series on suggestions to improve curation to break that link. Until we change that formula, it's going to keep happening.
"Or, like Jerry, do you think that popularity = quality?"
Popularity and quality may be different things, but the formula for financial reward is not:
Quality = Reward
it's:
Quality * Reach = Reward.
You may appreciate this post, despite disliking the facts as they are:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@lexiconical/steemit-like-life-is-a-popularity-contest-embrace-it-or-devote-your-efforts-to-other-pursuits-your-problem-is-not-the-reward
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You spoke my mind.
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This is so unfair how you talk about jerry. You portrait him so bad. I think that you should lead by good example joseph and create good content instead. Tne negativity of you and what you tell us about what jerrys intentions are is wrong. You don't know the person.
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@jerrybanfield
Yes I follow this man from more then last 2 years. I remembered the first time when I found him on udemy enrolled to his course and from that day till today I never regret once following him. A great mentor an amazing guru. The long journey of following him took me everywhere from udemy to YouTube and now here on steemit I m so excited to join steemit.
This post is not to gain some publicity for myself but to thank a man whose lessons always allowed me to discover new things.
THANKYOU
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You're welcome!
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One thing that worries me about Steemit is the power of the majority stifling minority, cutting edge or fringe opinions or beliefs. Wikipedia is controlled by mob trolls and is very ugly. I hope Steemit remains a platform for all beliefs and opinions. Should add that I found Jerry's post and this one @Joseph interesting - Live and let live! P.S. I upvoted my comment, of course.
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I upvoted your comment also. Raised your dollar amount a whole .01 cent. $1.60 upto $1.61. Just because You said "(Live and let live") There is room for disagreement on steemit, there is no room for disagreement on any other platform. Youtube or facebook, you disagree with someone then you damn well better have have more friends than the one you disagreed with.
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...and one more time...."Live and let live"
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It is always better to let people do what they want, so that we are all free. I know that means putting up with some loathsome behavior.
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So...if I take a picture of myself in my underwear....
You got me thinking.
Not always a good thing.
But I agree, lets get back to real people posting real things on a real social media platform. Tired of hype and bots here.
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thank you, exactly right.
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"lets get back to real people posting real things on a real social media platform"
Yeah...because that's what social media is known for.
/s
Has it not occurred to you people that success for Steemit probably looks like Facebook, which would make Jerry the "normals" and us crypto people the outsiders?
Jerry is literally bringing Facebook type people to Steemit....extrapolate that trend for me.
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yap !!
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What really rubs me the wrong way is the fact that they weren't even steemit boxers!
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hahahahaha GREAT comment we need some more humor around here!
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good post thanks
I am a new steemians, maybe i should study first with you, regards know me
https://steemit.com/@yogawithadriene
please follow me
I followed and upvoted.Would you like to follow and upvote me.
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Every few posts man, knock it off.
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All he does is spam, seen it hundreds of time just in the last couple days. His rep should be knocked to 1 so that its already automatic grey and unseen.
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Then announce it on your own post, not by spamming the comments 39 times!
I just checked your profile. You HAVE been a busy little spammer haven't you.
https://steemit.com/@healthiswealth/comments
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Unfortunately on every platform (including Steemit) there are many talented people creating valuable content, who stay invisible. And then there are others whose posts you see everywhere and they are not half as good as the invisible ones...
But on the other hand if one gets over $300 worth of upvotes by posting his photo in underwear... who is there to blame - the guy or all those who upvoted?
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what you do is super annoying. STOP spamming!
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I checked the site now and see how exciting your project is.... but honestly - putting the same link under every comment does look spammy and annoying and many won't even check the link because of it - so not very effective either. I am sure there is a much better way to promote your initiative!
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With a ref= code at the end, what a surprise.
Parasite.
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I deleted the mistaken Spams.
I ment no disrespect. sorry.
Have a good day.
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I'm just another user but I wanted to share my opinion on him. When he raising funds for the other user who lost her father, I had just recently joined the platform, didn't understand votes had weight, and I didn't know who anyone was. That was the first post I saw from him, I read all of the post, all of the comments, and then went to read the woman's original post. I then flagged Jerry's post. Matyr styled publicity stunt, completely unbiased opinion. Since then, I've followed him and even upvoted some posts by him that I liked, but that post stands.
A person should not include irrelevant information, as taught in writing, everything should have a purpose. The feelings a writer wants to convey will be expressed through how they write. If you are doing something for a good cause, you are doing it because you want to- it shouldn't pull you down. If you are going to complain about helping someone, then don't do it. Helping people does not cause more problems than it solves.
I wanted to weigh in, because since flagging him- I gave benefit of the doubt, maybe I made a bad judgement call. I feel that in Steemit, you are the product, not the platform, not the altcoins, but your experiences and knowledge. Taking and transforming that information to apply to where it's needed. If you are not bringing something new, or taking influences to mold something new, then what is a writers purpose on this platform?
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"Matyr styled publicity stunt, completely unbiased opinion"
An unbiased opinion is a good thing...?
"Helping people does not cause more problems than it solves."
It does for you personally. Just stating the obvious here.
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Heya @lexiconical everyone is allowed to have an opinion, and as stated above my actions were a result of being new to the platform.
I'll take your words with a grain of salt. Seeing as you only quoted me c:
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Hi shello,
I think we may have minor language confusion.
I was just saying having an unbiased opinion is good for everyone! Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but the more unbiased it is, generally the better formed it will be.
PS - I try to help a lot of people, but it can be hard work!
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I agree, language can be strange! Sorry for a not too well opinion, but I do like @jerrybanfield- I feel that the situation could have been presented in a different manner, having a better impact. Helping people is good, and sometimes I feel that negative reations can discourage a person from helping in the future.
Thank you for replying! :3
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I know what you mean!
I like Jerry too!
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Users that try to find hacks or scheme their way into making the most money for the least amount of work/value creation are actually important for the long term success of the platform. IMO it's almost like a white hat hacker, they expose a flaw and squak to their followers so that real users with a backbone can improve the project in the long run.
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I thought the same thing...white hat. White hats post videos about exploits. Black hats keep it to themselves.
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I do not understand the appeal of most content creators here that make hundreds of dollars per day. I personally think the trending page is a bad example of what steemit should be. More manual content curation needs to be done for the long term success of Steemit. The best thing I can do is continue manual curation and hope others realize the value of promoting a diverse type of content on Steemit.
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A lot of trending posts for the wrong reasons
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I totally just suggested this on another post!
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100% agree with you @azfix.
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@joseph you are truly right about the current situation on steemit it would be best if there was a way to remove the self voting scheme. I can't say anything against Jerry because I'm that kind of a man, yet I don't like the fact that true knowledge lies under a ton of rubbish here.. I myself joined steemit to try and make a name for myself and bring my knowledge to people. I'm not bringing a million of followers, nor would I want to have a million of fake following that up votes me only for income. Steemit is about quality for me and feedback.
Thanks for sharing this post, at least you'r word can be heard, given your rep..
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Your simple post efforts do potentially bring in new steemians or may have brought in new steemians. No doubt about that. I found steemit through the search engines organically.
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Hmmmm i never thought about that really :3 thanks for the heads up and inspiration :3
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Nobody pitches a fit when Kim Kardashian does this.
Apparently, people understand the formula that:
Reward = Quality * Reach
...but only when a fat-assed "real life celebrity" does it. They apparently can't extrapolate it down to "internet celebrity" level without getting their panties in a twist.
Steemit is a popularity contest, just like life. Get over it.
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This post has left a bad taste in my mouth. It is that type of the post. I know the person and I've closely monitored his progress and activity. This post has revealed some of the things hidden from me.
I don't like or approve the type of conduct or 'authorship' done by some people. The person in question has certainly lost some of the respect I had for him. But my liking or approval doesn't matter because I am a small minnow with hardly any steem power. No matter what quality my blog posts are, they are not going to get upvotes. Even if they get 100 upvotes, the total value will be less then 2 dollars.
It sucks to see pictures in the boxers getting $400 rewards. Wish I had abundant money to buy loads of Steem Power and downvote such posts.
Thanks for some bitter truth, @joseph.
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when will it end ?
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This undies post only got 2$ https://steemit.com/photos/@halo/steemit-girl-halo-you-have-steemit-cloths-but-do-you-have-a-pair-of-these
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Don't get down about it. Come up with your own unique answer to the problem and give it a try!
Manual curation is looking great as guy above mentioned.
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Hahahaha.. agree.. so do i, i wish i have a lot of money, invest on steemit then travelling around the world, then post all of my activities just like keeping up with kardashian
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that underwear post got more than 500 upvotes, more than 300$, and more than 300 comments! isn't that strange?
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YouTube is full of garbage. There are limitless amounts of people thinking they will make it big and be a YouTube star. I came here because there are actually informative topics here, mostly technical, but also about different cultures and ideas.
Every community will always have that garbage, but that's where our influencers have the power to downvote and bring the real information to the top.
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well said :-)
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all right
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Hey there @joseph, the point you made about the 'added value' people not upvoting anybody except their kind (some medium to big accounts holders whose interests align) is so true with exceptions of few good people with big accounts. I'm a minnow and I have a tiny account but I'm not stupid because I notice and learn quiet abit, I have given many upvotes with my tiny voting power and more than 98% haven't even given me one upvote on my posts except a few which I will not mention here. I know everyone can do what they want with their upvotes but common, they can see exactly who has given their all to upvote their posts and resteemed but still they lack the decency to return even 1 upvote out of 10 or 20 of your posts. As a minnow I just want to know, are we on Steemit platform suppose to follow the examples of either the 'added value' individuals accounts or the big and selfish account holders? I've also seen alot of amazing people who have helped others without even being asked and they also have given newbies straight and honest advice / pointers to help them grow. I still have a lot to learn but I'd rather follow examples of decent, unselfish and straight forward people here. Sorry for the long reply and have a good weekend... Cheers👍
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Free tokens are nice! I have to admit...
But you're spamming someone else post with this nonsense.
Great way to get flagged and downvoted... Just say'n.
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Meow Meow !!!
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joseph you have a point there. I only this week commented on some diatribe from a newcomer complaining about not getting votes and pleading. I advised that he should concentrate on one of two things as Steemit is a community, or is trying to be, he should just put up good posts and comments and leave the money grabbers to themselves. His choice would be either in it just for the money or simply to contribute good posts. Enough of my own rant! Keeping it good.... JV
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My problem is not that he earned big amounts with a boxer pic, but that he sees that as wrong when mindhunter posts a pic and earns. Also promoting weak points of steemit as earning methods is kinda wrong, in this case self- upvotes. I just upvoted his witness a few days ago. I will wait for his answer to ur post, before reaching any conclusion.......
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Garbage is everywhere on YouTube,Facebook,twitter and here also but it doesn't mean that we can't find some valuable stuff here. yes we can find and a lot of real people are also here who post the real content
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I just joined and I am not interested in seeing numbers of members. I want real people that want this to grow. There is a ton of content on here that just seems like they want to post like they do on other social platforms and get paid for. Thanks again for your good input.
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Thanks Joseph for your your honesty. Freedom of speech should always be welcomed.
I had a friendly jab at Jerry after he posted his series on '300 ways to make money online' after reading and concluding that the only way he's made money online is selling these 300 ways that don't really make any money online!
He's pretty much admitted being jealous of @mindhunter, who has stood his ground today with regards to the post.
All fun and games here!
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I'm just a learner but this was interesting , thanks for sharing
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@joseph This is a great post and your points are all valid. Steemit should be a platform for all, and not a playground for those who fit the criteria you mentioned. I am just curious, who is the one 'who is too drank to know what he is talking about...' I have an idea and I actually unfollowed because that's what he was; a drunk self-absorbed influencer. Does his name start with a C? 😜
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i like your posts brother, hope to see new interesting post here soon..... thanks
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well said...
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When 1 spam isn't enough...
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I agree with most of your opinion some authors are using steem just to make the quick buck ( we all want to make money nothing wrong with that ) but if someone decides to make double or triple post with the same article/post (steem, dtube and youtube ) then its getting weird.
On every other platform if a video or content is bad people will tell it or at least you will see the proportion of likes and dislikes.
On steem some people may be " scared " to say something negative cause they think that this can affect their earnings.
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I am Cornholio! (Whoa! Hm heh... that was cool) I need T.P. for my bunghole! Come out with your pants down!
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I'm very new to Steemit and just beginning to find my way around really, but this is the second time in 2 days that I have seen this man used as an example of what's wrong with Steemit in only the past 2 days. The other being a YouTuber on here that I have followed for quite some time now and have a good bit of faith in. I haven't met you or followed you, but you mention a lot of valid points, although I haven't fully looked into the entire issue.
I appreciate you bringing this to the attention of the community as a whole as I believe anything that is good for the platform is, overall, good for all users including myself. Thanks for the well written piece, gave a follow to see more!
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If never heard of this guy before his party about mindhunter. He can't seriously be complaining when he can make hundreds for a post. Mindhunter generally makes a few dollars per post. I couldn't even find the comments he was referring to. I did see someone say they had be rewarding him, but there was no scam going on. There are serious issues on steemit, but this is not one of them
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"Mindhunter generally makes a few dollars per post."
You do realize mindhunter was the single highest paid author, right? The facts directly conflict with your "opinion".
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Er, here are some facts. He may have had some high rewards in the last week due to a generous whale, but in general he hasn't made much compared with some. Unfortunately some decided he didn't deserve rewards and flagged him. He's been one of the hardest working bloggers here and it's sad that he feels he can't stay
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OK, if you switch that chart to posting rewards, you can see quite a spike. It's indisputable that he was one of the top earners recently and was pulling a lot in.
I'm not flagging anyone (except spammers/plagiarizers) and I like mindhunter too. But the facts are he did get a lot of rewards, and when they are dumped on comments like the "me too" ones, it's going to be bad optics and this is a pretty likely outcome.
I'd prefer more discussion about it and less flagging, but it is what it is.
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I don't think his earnings were exceptional when others get hundreds for every post (I'll name no names). Mindhunter peaked at 18k SP, which is nothing special really. Other are getting dollars for self-voting every comment they do with some just posting single characters. That's real abuse of the system as there's no value to anyone else.
In his case it was a 'fan' who voted him up. Others have their own fans.
I'm wary of getting into fights with anyone, especially some of the whales who could deprive me of income.
We should have discussion, but some are just not interested.
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"Mindhunter peaked at 18k SP, which is nothing special really."
This doesn't say anything about his earnings, assuming he was powering down. That's like judging someone's income from their checking account.
Not passing judgment, but it would appear it was more than just fans in this case.
I agree with your other points. I feel Jerry was very diplomatic with this post, and I felt it was a good start to discussion.
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good..
hehehe
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So why are you throwing stones while being in the same glass house? Just because you think those $100 went to the ghost writer? Or was it because million followers seemed like a lie?
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you realy succesfull
i inspire from you
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I love when people crticize something and start doing the exact thing, it proves all my theories about the world correct over and over again. LOL for this article and all the comments it has just added so much value to the community that I don't have words to express, neither desire!
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Or, it just proves that any intelligent human, when discovering that a game is stacked against them or that someone else is taking advantage, would also do so.
It's called game theory, and it pretty obviously and clearly predicts this. That's why we must allow anything allowed by the code, or forcibly prevent it.
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I am starting to believe that you were right, I don't know about that person but I am noticing a pattern with @steemcleaners I think they are working for "elites" of steemit.
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For the record, I think Steemcleaners are on the up and up. But that's all it is, an opinion. I haven't researched it. My closest encounter with them was when they made a mistake and tagged me as flag spam in a clear case of not-tag-spam.
Having said that, you may find this post interesting.
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An influencer has to start afresh on any new platform he joins.
His followers may or may not follow him to the new platform.
The assumption that most influencers have a fake following isnt fair.
There are genuine people out there.
But I agree they should try and bring their followers here rather than get a boost by Steemit
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Listen. This is absolutely unacceptable. Stop and delete your posts or face disciplinary action.
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Thank you!
IT is absolutely ridiculous and he should be penalized far worse. Someone like this should NOT have a 43 rep.
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That is sp. And if you have great friends with sp ere tendency
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Thats Great..!!
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Is it? Whats the greatest part here?
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Very informative and insightful.
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I laughed at the dress code picture, definitely topping everyone else's ;)
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Whats going on between you and jerry :(
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@joseph you are one of the main authors that got me to stick around steem, i have always enjoyed your content. Keep up the good work, amazing post im following ya, upvoting, re steeming.
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Jerry Banfield and Dollarvigilante brought me on to steemit but I don't think his motive was to help the community but only for his self-success as well as him trying to protect his investment as much as he can. It is clear to see they are not giving back to the community but are just here to gain money and constantly keep speculating about steem to drag more people in.
It disgusts me just looking at the first 5 minutes of his video. It looks like it makes him happy by reaping the rewards pool single handedly.
I guess I need to start stripping and making a blog about it with a ghost writer rather than be tirelessly spending a couple of hours a day making a quality post @joseph haha
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Love this post, many great points. Growth must be genuine and like you said police itself in order to maintain itself. Thanks for sharing @joseph. I am new to steemit and I am getting ready to do an introduce yourself post soon. I look forward to reading more of your content.
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Que buen post.... Ya te sigo para seguir leyendo tus investigaciones.
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Great post Thanks for sharing with us
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I liked jerrybanfield training.Excellent post thanks for sharing ! @joseph
I am a new steemians, maybe i should study first with you, regards know me
I followed and upvoted.Would you like to follow and upvote me sir
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I don't know if the money thing is going to make this platform best or worse..
nothing is 'real' when money is involved...
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What can I add to that? Nothing...
Amen, man, amen
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But 1 thing I want to mention here about @jerrybanfield... What he teaches and tells works.. As far as he is guiding people to make things work, then even he is faking it doesn't makes any difference..
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You have made a good point but my question is what are you doing on your own part
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You have made a very interesting post. I didn't know Jerry paid someone to write him a post.
And yes, I agree with you, once you join Steemit, you need to work on Steemit, building your audience on Steemit.
Just You & $teemit.
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Delete all your links and stop spamming. You will be flagged :)
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Man, spamming links are not a gift.
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Really dude? What if I have already accounts there? You re just spamming links hopefully you will receive some tokens.
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And you see I didn t flag you but you received flag from others and just ruined your account for some free shitty tokens.
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So, because I was trying to share with others, my 50 score is now 6 ?
Does that sound fair?
How can I find out who caused this downgrading of score without even asking me what the fuck is up?
I look forward to finding this or these persons!
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What do you guys think, boxers or briefs for my underwear picture? I'm thinking briefs, in B&W like a Tommy Hilfiger model.
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Gosh steemit is just awesome. I saw exactly this coming from the moment of Jerry's post and gosh it happened.
Some people just understand life better and this is it. There is all the secular education but there is also "school of life". Stay great!
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I prefer to see puppies instead today on Dog day than this dude
https://steemit.com/dogs/@felipesuarez/happynationaldogday
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I discovered steemit from @jerrybanfield !
Kinda seems like you are just a jealous hater . Its funny that you can talk about the YouTube and Instagram scum while you sit there and profit off of cutting other people down . Jerry is the man , why don’t you go watch his channel , you would probably learn something .
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Great post, and some very valid points, and yes lets get back to the basics
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good post great
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Couldn't agree more with this post, not really sure what kind of value the guy above brings to this platform, he posts 3-4 times a day and most of the time is just nonsense, let's reward value and creativity, not people who over abuse the platform for personal gain
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Quote of the day: "From the gutters of youtube, twitter, and other social media outlets we seem to attract the worst of the worst and reward them in the hopes they bring in their imaginary followers."
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Yeah, he lost me when he came to work undressed.
More insider bull***t, if you ask me.
Thanks for calling out the elephants.
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I like your article, the truth hurts but it has to be told. Thanks for saying it like you mean it. Steemit is not just for earning lots of money per post. It is about long term learning, growing and sharing useful content with others/community :)
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Congratulations @joseph!
Your post was mentioned in the hit parade in the following categories:
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Good article... to be honest I just mute twats like that otherwise the trending feed seems to be full of guys just circle jerking over a blue and white Steemit biscuit!
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Firstly When I read this post I didn't understand why you had written this. Then I went to Jerrybanfield post, Now I understood exactly why :)
Thank you
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Downvoted this and several other comments for spam.
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Good observation friend, I will follow you!
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Very well said, the guy is a total hypocrite and most of what he said was supposition and actually false. Mindhunter was buying a whale vote and that's between him and the whale. If they had to transact through comments that's just because of little jerks like Banfield.
Banfield's whole argument amounted to, "I deserve my payout because I'm more popular than them." Someone should tell him that this isn't high school.
People who invest fiat on this platform expect a return and since cryptos are so volatile they will upvote themselves, if necessary, and let's face it the, "quality" of posts has little to do with it and is too subjective to measure, especially when perceived popularity is often due to people seeking curation reward rather than giving a jot about the post.
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Kinda feels like one of those "haters gonna hate" moment. Personally, I think @jerrybanfield does add value. I've learned plenty from his posts and videos. So not sure why you're saying he adds no value.
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Nice post
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I suggest you try to make more relevant comments. This one may be considered spam
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If you continue copying other people's comments you will keep receiving enough downvotes to bring your reputation into the negative.
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