Vote Bots - how to use and get bit profit!

in steemit •  7 years ago  (edited)



Guys if you use vote bots in a blind mode you probably don't get profit and even lose...

  • Use http://www.steembottracker.com/ for seeing how much bot is loaded,
  • Choose 50% loaded 10 min before vote, and preferably with large vote power, reason, after yours bet, can come more...
  • If you press "Details" there is a calculation of your ROI. (After Curation minus)
  • If you get upvote 3$ on first 30 min your post get in Hot. If i rigtht in first 15? min no curation share count, all go to the author.

Here is couple examples Good and Bad bets for bot vote roll:

Recommend you minimum bet or a little bit more to the @appreciator in situation laik this:
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It is a bit risky (close to overload) but still ok
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Small vote bots also maybe profitable, but riskier so bet minimum on them (sometimes rare you may get Jack Pot and be solo on a roll!) :
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Bad vote rolls examples:

madness... calculate how much you lose on this vote run(
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  • So be patient and await good moment to upvote your post, I get better chances on my experience when they're in Europe night time :)

  • My favorite bold vote bots:
    @upme - really large
    @booster - on my opinion have top rates
    @appreciator - big
    @jerrybanfield - middle
    @buildawhale - big

  • Better use Send Bid function steembottracker
    Him will check your bid on errors (double bet, wrong amount, older posts etc) It is important no all bots heve refound option implemented.

  • be careful not push too much less important topics or someone angry whale may punish you by downvote!

Correct me if I wrong, I steel newb on Steemit.

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Nice and detailed post about bid based voting bots.

I would add to this post another small explanation about bots, namely, timing and curators.
When you use strong bots in the first minutes / hours after the publication of your post, you practically deprive your friends and all those who will vote after the bot, the opportunity to receive curation rewards. The main amount of curation rewards for such a post goes to the bot:(
Perhaps it makes sense to wait a little and allow your readers to vote first, before the bot...

Я бы добавила к этому посту еще одно небольшое пояснение насчет ботов, а именно, о тайминге и кураторах.
Когда вы используете сильных ботов в первые минуты/часы после публикации своего поста, вы практически лишаете своих друзей и всех тех, кто будет голосовать после бота, возможности получить кураторские вознаграждения. Основная сумма кураторских вознаграждений за такой пост уходит боту. Возможно есть смысл немного подождать и дать возможность вашим читателям проголосовать первыми, до бота.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

As far as I know, it was so at until the last update, the votes that came in the first 30 minutes were 100% going to the author, those who voted first on the 31st minute received the largest share of curatorial. that This time has changed by 15 minutes if I dont wrong. But in any case, I understand your logic ... Although look after all the more the post has collected the sum of the withdrawal the more curatorial payments?

Насколько я знаю так было по краиней мере до последнего обновления, голоса которые приходили в первые 30 минут на 100% шли автору, те кто первые голосовали на 31 минуте получали наибольшую долю кураторских. Вроде писали что это время изменилось на 15 минут. Но в любом случае ваша логика понятна... Хотя смотрите ведь чем больше пост собрал сумму апвойта тем больше кураторские выплаты?

Я так поняла, вы понимаете русский, поэтому будет без перевода.
Голоса отданные в первые 15 минут - 100% автору
15-30 минут - получают только половину кураторских. Но если в этот момент вас посетит кто-то с большой силой голоса, он сорвет джекпот, оставив с носом всех, кто проголосовал после него.
после 30 минут - кураторские распределяются зависимо от вклада проголосовавших и их очередности.

Там сложная схема распределения по времени и силе проголосовавших. Если действительно интересно, можете почитать подробные объяснения с примерами в этой статье
https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@crokkon/effective-curation-analysis-of-curation-rewards-in-theory
Человек несколько своих последних статей посвятил ботам, их анализу и улучшению.

Если неохота вникать, можно сразу прочитать Conclusions. Короче, суть в том, что опытный куратор охотнее проголосует, зная что после него придет бот и повысит его кураторские, чем увидев, что он опоздал на пирушку и может не получить даже объедков.

Ясно! Благодарю за информацию.

I am pretty sure that its a sliding scale, not 100% straight out to the author. that's why you see people jumping in at 21min's and 27min's a lot.

Take into consideration the following math: Of the Upvote you will only get 75%, but that gets into SBD, diving by 2. Hence if you don't make higher or equal to X/0.375, where X is your bid, then you are loosing. Some Bots are programmed to make you loose. So make your Due Diligence Research.

Thanks @kobusu for this post. We need an alliance to share knowledge on bots, otherwise they will win the war over our own profits

Sure, I sent 0.1SBD to 10 small bots = 1 SBD .
I calculate my rewards in Details, i.e. 0.1 * 3.7 * 10 = 3.7 SBD, but actually I didn't get full summation amount. Got only about 2.7 SBD . 2.7* .75= 2.025 /2 = 1.0125 SBD . ( I have no idea , why I didn't get full amount as they shown in details) Very little profit in SBD, but I got profit in SP & RP from small bots votes & comments and happy to see full SBD in my post , rather than downhearted points like , 0.02 - 0.05 SBD.
Middle & large bots may be more profitable.

1/0.375 = 2.667, which is consistent to what you got. Brake even. The real earnings is in Steem Power but 0.375 / steem market value is very low.

To make some earnings you will have to play higher SBD, and choose proper bots.

Yes, well noticed! Thanks for resteem!

Thank you, nice post!

good article friend
thank you for sharing

Отличная статья, спасибо, что в свое время, Вы помогли мне разобраться в этом.

Good information, PAL. Thank you!

Really good tips @kobusu. Haven't used the bots recently, might try it out again.

Thanks man, wish you success and luck :)

Just tried it. Got more worth than expected, let see if the 'hot' theory works :)

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