Dear New Friends and Potential Friends:
Please be very careful creating posts by copying content from other web sites.
It is important to do these 4 things:
Step One: FIRST AND ALWAYS: Bring in other content after explaining it's impact or usefulness to you. In other words, explain why your readers should be interested. (Example: I found this info and it helped me make stuffs. See my stuffs!)
Step Two: ALWAYS Discuss the original content that the other person created! (Step 2 is not "reword it." That can still get you in trouble with lawyers and legals.) Talk about how accurate you found their content to be. (or) Talk about how you agree or disagree. (or) Talk about how you want to use their instructions or ideas in your own work and life. (or) Talk about why you think other people should use the this person's ideas. (or etc)
I know Step Two sounds like Step One.
Step One is like the introduction that makes your readers understand why they should be interested.
Step Two is the justification for quoting other people's work directly. Step Two is the foundation of "fair use" in review and commentary and critique. It is probably the most foundational step to staying legal.
Step 3: ALWAYS Place all quoted content inside a "quote block" (see below). To begin the block, insert a blank line before the content. Then, use the > symbol before each paragraph that is quoted. Insert another blank line to finish the block of quoted text.
content quoted from other sources should be place inside a "quote block."
Hint: If we are pasting anything from another web site, it is plagiarizing (stealing from other writers and artists) IF we do not give the other web site, author, &/or artist credit (See step 4). It is also plagiarizing if their content is the only content we're posting. (Yes, even if we give credit.) There are lawyers and agencies that do nothing more than find people who are "stealing content." So. It is best to only use a small amount of quoted content.
Step 4: ALWAYS make a sentence about the web site(s) where the content originated. And and link to the other web site. This must also be done for all photographs you use that you did not personally generate.
Yes. Even if the content is content you created on another web site, provide links. It's also good to provide a proof that you created the content on both sites.
After @cheetah comes to visit, @steemcleaners will visit. If there's not a link in your post to the other content, your post will be down-voted. If this happens even a few times, you will have a negative reputation. None of your posts will be seen by the public, they will all be hidden. And then there is a black-list bot that makes sure your posts stay hidden.
So. Serious stuff here.
Please do these steps! It makes me sad when I see you lose opportunities.
Your friend,
Marilla
This is for all the new people I keep bumping into who have been falsely trained by FB and other social media.
It is here for me to link to for the next 500 years, or 50 days, if either comes first.
If you find it is an easy thing for you to link people to this post, you are welcome to do that.
This is my disclaimer of responsibility for you.
- I did not make up these rules.
- I do NOT promise my explanation of the rules will completely keep you out of trouble with the legals.
- I am under the impression they will keep you out of trouble with @cheetah et al. I make no guarantees.
- The rules change.
If you get in trouble for following my advice, you better find someone who is more strict with rule following than I am.
And let me close with my "I don't give a care" section.
I do not care what you think the rules should be.
These are the rules that other people will punish you for breaking.
They might not follow you, They might report you. They might down-vote you. They might down-vote you into the dust. They (the original creators) might take you to court.
I'm just trying to help you survive the game in one piece.
Good points! I would add Old Guy's Rule for staying out of trouble: Take your own pics and write your own words. Its not hard once you start!
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I will second that!
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This is my personal favorite path! But sometimes I crack down and do research. Then I have to remember to do those sitings :)
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Easy, don't steal stuff. And if posting other content, it should be in the context of your own, and give credit, drive traffic to the original creator. I know all content is basically based on other content, as chemist Antoine-Laurent de Lavoisier said : "nothing is lost, nothing is created, everything is transformed", but it's not so hard to link. :)
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Unfortunately, @sebi99p I use to think it was just that clearly obvious too! Then I ran across a few young people who really didn't know and they were struggling with the impact of getting hit by the down votes. I watched one young man do everything he could to get back in the good graces ... and he did ... I was impressed ... but then he never posted again ... at least not in the following 3 weeks.
I hate to break it to you, but your chemist has recently lost standing in the science world over that exact statement. I'll let you research it. I wasn't paying enough attention fast enough to be able to give you details. Condolences, though, I was rather surprised myself.
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What I meant with that statement was that everyone is building on the achievements of others. I used photos from across the internet, but I link them to their source.
And I'm not one for chemistry, again, I used that quote for its ... philosophical impact I guess. So I don't know how he fell from good grace. The principle is correct though. Stuff doesn't pop into or out of existence, unless you go down to quantum levels, and those particles even out, so all actual matter does indeed transform. Unless you can enlighten me :)
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I'm sorry @sebi99p, I didn't mean to skip over your philosophy. I'm getting sick with a fast moving cold. And it hit just a bit before you wrote your reply.
I don't really completely agree with the idea. But I'm not completely against it.
I'm not with it because I take photos of original moments in my life. I write sentences about my life that no one else can write. (without taking over my persona ... which really? why?) And I write about my opinions in ways that no one else wants to. hopefully.
On the other hand I do agree because I very much enjoy torturing other people's photographs when they are provided as free use. I have several such works stashed away at PicsArt.
I also use software to create little abstract pieces of art. Sometimes I use the software and completely generate every tweak. But the software also includes starting points created by others. Which is almost a mute point because usually their work is so lost under mine by the time I finish with it, but ... still it was their starting point.
And by the way, as a person who creates textures, it is immensely annoying to hear people claim that textures are ... just people ripping off other people. Because of this thought that it started out as a photo ... no. so wrong. but anyway. Probably shooting over most people's heads now and I should take my foggy brain to bed.
AS to the chemistry, I would love for someone to enlighten us both. I remember I was listening to a chain of youtubes while I cleaned the kitchen. And that was weeks ago. It hit my curiosity buttons but didn't fully engage any of them. So, I didn't make notes.
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I still think your work is building on others' works. Sure, it's an original work, but you're photographing using a camera (not your work), and your subjects are whatever you're photographing, building, people, nature etc (again, not your work). I don't mean that in the sense that it's plagiarism, just that you're transforming the world around you to create your own thing :)
And I know texture is not just a photo, it's a face to an object, with bitmaps and stuff. I follow the modding scene on a game I play to see stuff like models are made and textured.
About the chemist thing, it'd be a curiosity, as I know chemistry is definitely not my strong suit.
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@sebi99p, I'm sorry. It is currently beyond my physical and mental capacity to continue this conversation. Besides, you really should be writing on your own blog and making some STEEM off of this.
I will say, it is also the transformation of the world around me that drives me to create.
And when you write please hide this line ...
I'd hate to see old school photographers rake you over the coals. ;-)
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What I meant by that line was that the photographers didn't make the camera, some engineers did, they didn't make the scenery, nature or builders did ... what they did do is art in the form of the photograph, and that's great. I meant no disrespect, just elaborating my thought process. And I do know a few photographers actually :)
And I do write on my blog, but I like a good conversation as much as I like sharing my ideas :)
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LOL omg. I can't communicate anything right now. This cold.
I mean write on this topic. I also love good conversion. Leave me a link here to your article, I'll come talk to you.
But I think you should be earning more steem than I can hand out. So. Write where you can promote.
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We try so hard to steer them in the right direction!! Your own work is your best work!! Thanks for a good write up on the topic!!
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It's a little like being a guardian ;)
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Hmm, Cheetah has visited me several times and mentioned similar content at (my Wordpress site) in a comment. I wonder if Cheetah saw both posts were created by me? I've never acknowledged that I had previously posted the content on a blog. I need to look into this.
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real humans tend to be following @ cheetah, driving the @ steemcleaner account ... or ... that's the plan the last time I read their info. So they may have noticed.
But, yes, in the beginning I did a couple of posts on my now long long long neglected web site about being on steemit.
It also would be safe to just end such a post with a link to your content on your web site. Mainly @ steemcleaners is just looking for the link to the originating website. But if they realize someone is just lifting stuff left and right, that's another story.
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It would be easy enough to mention I previously posted this article on Wordpress. That'll keep me outta trouble. I've never had my reputation go down.
A fella I follow here busted a page for just out and out copying entire Rodale gardening articles and passing them off as his own. I have never understood plagiarism, then again, my brain doesn't operate in those terms. Thanks for the article and your response.
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They usually knock the post down first. Which doesn't help with reputation and most definitely hides the post and dramatically affects payout.
And yes that's pretty brazen to try to lay ownership / authorship claim to established content by someone else.
You're welcome. It was nice to have you stop by and make your acquaintance.
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This is the most important things to know when posting things, wherever it's posted. It's a great idea to make this article, I know many people don't care, but it can depend on lack of knowledge (in some cases at least). Every time a reminder comes up, hopefully at least some people will listen.
Important message here, thanks for posting this!
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@kerlund74 Thanks! I'm especially concerned for those who do not have English as their Mother language. And the FB trained young people.
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