The Steemit Daily Dose: The rise of trolls and Social Justice Warriors (SJWs) on Steemit.

mindhunter (72) in steemit • 8 years ago (edited)

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lexiconical (72) · 8 years ago

Mindhunter,

Thanks for putting yourself out there with a post like this. I think this is one of the greatest threats to western civilization (the degradation of political discourse to racist mob mentality like Antifa) and each of us needs to stand up, potentially to our financial and social detriment, and nip these "equality of outcome" slugs right in the bud.

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mindhunter (72) · 8 years ago

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icmultitudes (51) · 8 years ago

Actually FB activists made Bernie Sanders a thing. Not to mention the amount of local success in bringing people together for action in their own communities. If you don't see it, you haven't participated wisely or with positive intention. I'm becoming less and less of a FB fan, but there are ways the platform has facilitated some amazing stuff.

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road2wisdom (63) · 8 years ago

Great video, yea I agree with everything you said. 🌞💯 you slicked the hair back a little haha. looks good. I like comparison to steemit and matrix😀

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mindhunter (72) · 8 years ago

I don't want live in a SJW Steematrix I tell you! A few people told me today I look a little different ... I'm not sure if it's the hair or change of subject?!? :)

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natevegas (53) · 8 years ago

Resteemed couldn't agree more. SJW's can't see past their hatred for opposing views and use tactics they claim the opposition is doing to them giving their whole causes a self-fulfilling prophecy failure.

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mindhunter (72) · 8 years ago

They always play the victim card and have no level of self awareness! They are worse than the bots on Steemit - at least the bots got soul Nate!

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ecoknowme (49) · 8 years ago

Glad you brought it up. https://busy.org/steemit/@eco-alex/final-push-again-davinger-your-assistance-is-needed What do you make of this? I don't personally wish to find myself in such a situation so I don't know what i would do, but at the same time I do wonder what is to be done about situations like this. lemme know your thoughts @mindhunter cheers @ecoknowme

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mindhunter (72) · 8 years ago

This is extreme SJWing! Flagging must be used in moderation. This is way too excessive!

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ecoknowme (49) · 8 years ago

I agree, but what do you do when someone is stalking you for weeks and flagging every comment and post? I don't wish to be on either end, but I get the impression that this might have also been an extreme case. If someone is on here only to be a nuisance, what can one do to protect oneself from excess bile? Unlike other places, you can't block people yet. This is acceptable in other platforms since it is private, but here, publicly sharing thoughts and lives, there Miiiight be some balance to be found between total unpolicablity to draconian matrix, no?

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likedeeler (66) · 8 years ago

Well, first of all, this guy davinger´s post were just copy&paste pasta and he put his senseless comments into other people´s discussions. When some people told him and flagged him, he freaked out and went on an all out revenge flagging spree.
Now I would have just ignored him, because I consider any other reaction a waste of time and energy, but eco-alex chose differently and got the cavalry in to help him with this nuisance.
So I hope this guy learned his lesson, but there will be others in the future, so best to just mute them and ignore them.
In general, I am for the removal of the flag, because it´s a policing instrument which can be easily abused by somebody with a certain amount of steempower and then the victim of this abuse has to get someone with more steempower than the abuser to punish him and it goes on and on and is a bit of a kindergarten, and frankly, I came to steemit to support good content creators, not for this childish stuff.

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bi5h0p (55) · 8 years ago

Nobody wants to get downvoted by somebody of a different political philosophy - because they disagree over what is or isn't good policy. That doesn't seem the SteemIt way - it seems contrary to the concept of freedom of speech. Of course, "might makes right" is a flawed concept. Using superior amounts of money to destroy and discourage dissent to your own way of thinking is simply admitting that the only solution for your flawed ideas is to resort to ecomonic violence. People who choose to use these kinds of tactics are only broadcasting their own lack of character and morals - they are bankrupt of good ideas, or of being able to effectively communicate why their ideas are superior.

As far as Craig Grant goes... I spoke my peace on him a month ago. I don't like what I see, I said so, and I moved on. Hopefully, my concerns regarding the content of his character are incorrect. Hopefully, he's not involved in a huge scam. Frankly, it matters none to me - because I'm not invested in his BitConnect/high-pressure-salesmanship way of doing things. I have no stake, and I stand to gain or lose absolutely nothing from that situation. For my own reasons, I have chosen to insulate myself from what I see as a high-risk, possibly scammy investment.

If there is something as big as BitConnect going bad in the future, and he's here on SteemIt - I fail to see how it would benefit anybody involved on SteemIt, other than to educate them on what NOT to get involved with. Best case scenario is that my concerns are completely invalidated, and everybody involved in BitConnect makes a buttload of money, and their business model proves itself to be resilient and honest, long into the future. So far, I'm not convinced that it's for me - and I have moved on to other, greener pastures.

I've unfollowed most people in CG's orbit, so I'm not "current" on what's been going on there. Hopefully the players involved over there will all learn to remain positive, classy, and constructive - using SteemIt to learn and enrich their lives, their pocketbooks, and do it in a way that we can all see is beneficial to the world.

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vangelov (60) · 8 years ago

The trolls are not so much as a threat as the spammers really

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mindhunter (72) · 8 years ago

@vangelov - SJWs are rising, but your right - bots and spammers are the real pain in the ass right now!!

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likedeeler (66) · 8 years ago

With all this censorship going on on FB, youtube, etc., the last thing I want is that the same happens on steemit.
Here we have a free , uncensored space, where we can voice our opinion and engage in lively discussions.
If we don´t like somebody´s view, we can debate, but there should be no other way to sanction, regulate or even punish opinion.
With bad behavior though I am not so sure.
Those senseless trolls, bots and spammers can be annoying.
So from an emotional viewpoint, I also sometimes want to retaliate, call in some benevolent whale to help me with some annoying guy, weep at the shoulders of my peers, but from a rational viewpoint I understand, that those immature people behaving badly, is the price I pay for my own freedom of speech.
In a decentralised, free platform there can be no censorship, censorship always needs some form of authority which leads to abuse.
Now I understand that the combination of a lot of steempower in the hands of certain individuals and the ability to flag, can lead to self-proclaimed guardians of political correctness who try to control content and opinion.
I suppose the creators of steemit, who naturally hold quite some steempower themselves, have created the flag as a kind of emergency brake for them, if things got out of hand, but by doing so, they also created a tool for people to go to war with and create trouble in the first place.
Therefore I think it would be wise to remove the flag.
Then everybody would just ignore and mute stuff and people they don´t like and direct attention and energy to all the wonderful stuff and people waiting to be discovered on steemit.

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