Help me decide how to fix my Transmission!

in steemit •  7 years ago  (edited)

Before we go any further, everyone needs to first know that my car is 28 years old.

Anything inside of a car this old is prone to mechanical failure if it isn't properly maintained. Fortunately, the last two failures (which were pretty significant) occurred within several blocks from home and I was lucky enough to avoid a disastrous day waiting for the tow truck.

Let's start with the first failure

The fuel line cracked and started ejecting pressurized gasoline everywhere

Just 3 weeks ago, during the last mile of my drive back from Ocean City NJ (which was 3+ hours due to traffic), the cabin of my car was suddenly filled with the sweet smell of gasoline. In fact, the smell was so intense that it almost seemed like it was coming from INSIDE the cabin. Luckily, I was only several blocks from my house, so I drove hastily and parked the car on my street, which was on a slope. A puddle of gasoline below the car began to emerge and upon closer inspection, it seems as though time has taken its toll on the fuel line.

It was a cheap fix that involved just swapping out the existing fuel line for a new one, but the potential for a catastrophic fire was extremely high. I was really lucky to have been near my home despite the distance I was traveling!

Here's a photo of the fuel leak:
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Let's zoom in a bit more.

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You can see the fuel escaping the pressurized line. Can anyone scream FIRE!!!!! Luckily, nothing happened and the car was back on the road quickly.

But the car didn't even make it to the next trip because the transmission gave out just a few days later.

The Automatic Transmission is a slushbox waiting to blow up

For BMW's of this vintange, standard equipment was either a 5 speed manual or a 4 speed automatic. I happened to end up with an auto because manual versions are significantly more difficult to find.

The automatic transmission in mine is a 4 speed auto that happens to have a fatal flaw. The main drive shaft has a weakened seal that allows hot transmission fluid to enter the clutch which results in lower operation pressure and overheating. It takes a while for this flaw to appear and even longer for the transmission to experience complete and total failure. Despite having only 130K (which is rather low miles these days), my transmission kicked the bucket and I'm left with a car that can't get anywhere.

One of the first things that can be done to try and revive the transmission is to perform a fluid change, and that's when I realized that the oil in my transmission has probably never been changed, EVER.

When I dumped the oil out, the old oil was thick, burnt and hardly resembled transmission fluid. Desperate for results, I spent $35 and picked up new transmission fluid hoping it would alleviate the problem. No joy. It seems that my transmission is in fact, completely dead.

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What now?

I can replace the car with something newer, but the reality is that cars these days suck. Something about the BMW, the E30 specifically, makes it a superbly fun car to own and drive. And despite the maintenance that is necessary to keep the car going, it's still cheaper than buying a moderately used car.

And because I'm a bit nostalgic for machines of the past, I've settled on repairing the car (even though the repair will cost more than half of what the car is actually worth). This is where the decisions become tricky.

OPTION 1: REPLACE THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION WITH ANOTHER ONE

This is by far the cheapest option since I can simply remove the existing and chuck it into a scrap machine and replace it with another one. Unfortunately, the replacement would also be a ticking time bomb since all automatics of this vintage have the same design flaw. I would however, get her back on the road quickly and cheaply. This option ranges from $200-$400, assuming you do the work yourself.

OPTION 2: SWAP TO A MANUAL TRANSMISSION

This is the most common option since the manual transmission for this car is robust and readily available. Unfortunately, swapping to a manual means I have to also install the clutch pedal, a new shifter, new drive shaft and purchase another flywheel and clutch. With this option, you also have no idea what you are getting since you are buying a used transmission. It also takes time to piece together all the components and several weekends to complete the modification and work. While its unlikely that a used manual transmission is faulty (due to its robustness), the chance of buying a lemon still exists. In all, a manual transmission swap can run you approximately $1500, also assuming you do the work yourself.

OPTION 3: REBUILD THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION

This is the middle ground option.

Rebuilding the automatic means you can correct the original design flaw, and as a result, you have a known healthy transmission. This is the best choice when it comes to reliability, but you don't get the pleasure of owning a manual (which is ear to ear grinning fun!), but you get the comfort of knowing your transmission will outlast the car. This option cost $1000, also assuming you do the work yourself. I can do this in just a few hours since its a simple matter of bolting off the old, having it rebuilt and bolting it back on.

WHICH OPTION WOULD YOU CHOOSE?

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If it's just an A to B car, go with the rebuild. Otherwise, you're gonna perform or pay for the same labor to pull the trans 2 times when the next one goes.

If you care about cars and you really enjoy driving, get the manual. You won't regret it.

personally i would find someone in the area and have it properly rebuilt. i have been turning wrenches for aver 15 years and junkyard trannys are usually a ticking time bomb. I would rather have it done right and do it once. If you get on any of the bmw boards you might actually find a local bmw mechanic that is willing to rebuild it on the side. make sure it gets a new torque converter also. i am sure you already knew that but i have to say it because i have seen people reuse them and trash their new tranny.

So the $1000 quote i got includes a new torque converter too. The guy thats rebuilding it has a reputation on craigslist for being a good transmission guy. For an auto like this one, its should be a simple replacement. NOW, if the planetary gear set is blown up. I would just trash the transmission.

As for junkyard pulls...thats what im afraid of. I found a guy on craigslist selling a functioning auto with 125k miles on it for $200. Working (or so he says).

Ive been wrenching for 12 years now, (mostly motorcycles) and i've had my fair share of ticking time bombs. People are almost NEVER honest. I dont know how you would check a transmission thats not in a car either.

yes, that is the problem. Everytime i buy something off of craigslist i feel like i know it is wrong but i am doing it anyway. I probably trust a guy rolling around in a white van with " free candy " wrote on the side more than most craigslist sellers.

LOL, obviously you havent been drugged by a free candy van yet.

Last time i bought a motor off of craigslist was for my ducati. The motor was essentially mint. I lucked out. I feel like the motor was stolen, except the dude had a garage full of jetskis and boats, and it wouldnt make any sense that it was stolen. Regardless i bought it and it was a great motor!

Craigslists is can be both a damning and rewarding experience!

If i paid $200 bucks for the auto, it would take me less than a day to swap an auto for an auto. But i would have to reuse my existing torque converter. Im not sure how long that would get me going, especially since I dont know why my transmission failed to begin with.

I am always a sucker for their pick up line " does this smell like chloroform?"

i never get that lucky on craigslist.

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

Option 2 or 3. Leaning towards 3.. since it’s simpler, quicker and cheaper. Invest the difference into STEEM.

you're cracked out about steem now arent you!

The manual transmission swap, while i REALLY want to do it, I have no idea how long it would take to gather the parts.

I need:

  1. Getrag 260 Manual Transmission
  2. Clutch Pedal Setup
  3. Transmission oil cooler
  4. Manual transmission drive shaft
  5. A new set of Differential Gearing
  6. New shifter

So much to do, so little time to do it!!!

If you do option 3 vs 2 you’d have an extra 500 that I said half joking to invest in STEEM...

Time is money. But if the manual will make you happier with the same performance and longevity of the [option 3] auto maybe you should consider it.

Time IS money. I rather ride. In fact, I would gladly pay $500-800 to have someone do it for me, but alas, that isn't an option given the cost of labor these days :(

And the stereotypical lack of trust in mechanics these days

If you want to hold onto the car then option 3 is the best. Swapping for manual sounds fun but so many mods mean more chances of failure. Option 1 is good if you plan to sell it soon.

You have a minor misspelling in the following sentence:

Fortunately, the last two failures (which were pretty significant) occured within several blocks from home and I was lucky enough to avoid a disastrous day waiting for the tow truck.
It should be occurred instead of occured.

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Rebuild the transmission. :)

You need to change the items that leak for your family safety, truly your car have a good service. But sadly but because he is too much older maybe you don't have seen the same items that your car have.

Always wanted a e30... ALWAYS!!
Ideally an m3, 2nd most affordable a late 325is... but then these got too old.
I think that bmw makes some cool cars. Perso I would shoot for a sport package manual. For some older cars an auto is acceptable. Not for an e30.
So if you dream at a manual e30 and the car is solid overall, go for the swap.
Wish you all the best and thanks for holding on onto the e30. They are sweet cars.

I would choose rebuild.
If you intend to hang onto this car, choose this option.
Best bang for your money.
And maintain that transmission filter/fluid afterward. ;D