Observation and Analysis - Firepower of Spamming 观察与分析之奇葩列传 🔍

rahuljaichand (0) · 7 years ago

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

Thanks for supporting

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strayenglishman (44) · 7 years ago

Spamming is a huge problem on Steemit. It's not just these comments though, it's also the masses of low quality posts that seem to constantly get put out by those hoping for a quick buck. Many are often just copying what they have seen in the news, rather than creating anything original. These users need to be removed from Steemit; it is not Steemit's responsibility to feed the third world by allowing them to make 1 SBD a day if they're lucky.

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wangwenjing (61) · 7 years ago

That’s true. Many posts are very short and lack of useful info. Steemit should take some action to reduce those kinds of posts.

rahuljaichand (0) · 7 years ago

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

Yes, the spamming from high reputation users are much more harmful that the spamming from the low reputation users. Spamming from a former @steemcleaners member is unbelievable.

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freehuman (45) · 7 years ago

the spamming from high reputation users are much more harmful that the spamming from the low reputation users.

I agree with this!

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

I totally agree with you. Yes, spamming of low quality posts is a problem. But the comment spamming of @firepower is more intrusive. The authors may believe the comments come from a real reader, but it is not.

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rahuljaichand (0) · 7 years ago

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yash0108 (56) · 7 years ago

i stand with you

nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

Thank you

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openbull (51) · 7 years ago

nice post keep it up fully agree with this post start following you

nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

Thanks

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bashadow (65) · 7 years ago

Since June 1, 2017, he wrote 91 exactly same comments.

To me it seems he looks at a lot of pictures, and is trying to encourage the people he left the comment "These are some incredible pictures! I loved your work!" To me that is not spam, but I guess to each their own. 4 months and 8 days, 91 same comments, thats what less than 1 same comment a day, and that makes him a spammer? If you took the time to scroll down on his page and look at his comments it took me quite awhile before I even saw a similar comment and the only exact same comment I saw was "Thank You" So I disagree with your view on him being a serial spammer.

nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago (edited)

I believe I already listed enough evidence to convince me that firepower is a spammer
I showed some evidences in my article and let readers to make judgement whether he is a spammer.
If anybody like you don't believe he is a spammer, I fully respect it
I just did a random search to check how many comments are exactly same as the one he put in my post. The following screenshoot was in my original post. On Oct 7, he sent out this comment 9 times.
I can show you more evidences that he is spammer. But I believe the evidences I showed in my original post is already enough. For more evidence, please go to @ace108's page to read his reports. There are many reports in @ace108's page. This is a sample report. Please read @ace108's reports and make the judgement whether firepower is a spammer or not
I found firepower is spammer. Then, I noticed that firepower mentioned many times in @ace108's reports. And those reports confirmed that firepower is a spammer.
The following screenshot was also in my original article. Please pay attention to the timestamps. About 1 comment per minute, almost distributed evenly for 20 minutes (The burst may be longer than 20 minutes, my screen size limited to 20 records). Can you do this manually? I cannot do it, because I am not a robot
Please check the above and make the judgement whether he is a spammer or not. Whatever conclusion you have, I respect it.
Thank you very much for reading and leaving message. I do appreciate it.

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bashadow (65) · 7 years ago

Thank you. He may use a bot, I don't really know. All I know is when i scrolled back on his comments for a couple of days, I did not see an excess of repeat comments, granted I did only scroll back through 2 days of comments.

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

I guess he learned how to behave in the last 2 days for not spamming too much 😄
However, he claimed he banned the users who support my post at steemit.chat. Steemit community needs to know the censorship and dictatorship of steemit.chat:
Screen Shot 2017-10-11 at 2.10.10 PM.png

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bashadow (65) · 7 years ago

Sometimes people for whatever reason just can not get along. I am sorry you and he have issues that can not be resolved. He is only one person among thousands here on steemit. Why fret over the actions of one individual, when there are so many good people on here. Spam, abuse, and plagiarism, are like beauty, in the eyes of the beholders.

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

If his reputation was low, then I would simply mute him. But his reputation is 69. His irresponsible spamming action is very harmful for the community. Some of my friends were fooled by him. He post trash to my posts twice in one afternoon. Therefore, I wrote the article. Then he down voted me like mad and use s4s to down vote me. Then 3 whales came to down vote me, though these whales removed the down votes later. Firepower harassed me and threatened me. Then he kick users who supported my post from steemit.chat. I am not able to login steemit.chat. Steemit.chat is a website for appeal, where do I appeal?

As a bystander, please let me know what I should do now?

Thanks

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bashadow (65) · 7 years ago

Perhaps you could re-look at what you consider spam. Re-look at the comments @firepower has made, and who those comments are made to. When I looked at those 2 days, he "Welcomed" a lot of new users to Steemit. I had like 3 people, one of which was a bot, and the other two my wife and her friend welcome me to steemit. Yes his welcome comments may seem trite to you and be seen as spam, but at least he took the few seconds needed to watch the new user post and make a comment to them. As for all the "Spam" on picture post, did you look and see what level some of those people posting pictures were, how many of them got upvotes from him. I don't think, (I looked at 20 random post comments he made) any of them did not receive an upvote from him. Not one that I looked at asked them to come and see his page or to upvote his blogs, or to follow him, He just made some generic comments, upvoted the people's work and moved on. That is not a serial spammer. If you just can not move beyond your narrow definition of spam, then mute really is your only other option. A spammer will not upvote, a spammer begs people, a spammer does not give a shit about steemit community. Your view of @firepower somewhere along the line I think, got extremely skewed, I am not sure how, it happens, conflicting personalities, or archetypes, sometimes people just for unknown reasons can not and never will get along, in those cases, it is either all out war, or mutual tolerance and ignore each other however they can.

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago (edited)

Thanks. You may want to check his older comments before I published my article. If you believe it's not spamming, I respect you. I believe it's spamming. Please also respect me.

If you think what he did is not spamming, I have another article for you.

In this article, I proposed a robot to do what firepower can do and can do it better: sending comments to 200 users each day and hopefully to get followers.

The article is just for fun. I will not make this robot, because it's too low for me. I just want to know if there are many users to use this kind of robots or method, whether you still think it's not spamming.

Enjoy

liflorence (65) · 7 years ago

我还曾天真的以为他是我的真丝粉呢😹

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

哈哈哈，我刚来时也被他蒙骗

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wangwenjing (61) · 7 years ago

Steemit 是真实世界的一个迷你版，牛鬼蛇神都会有，不要太在意。当然，Steemit 如果想长久发展下去，应该采取相应措施。不过，可能没那么简单，否则早就采取了吧。你的文章都很有意思，谢谢给我们带来这么多独到的见解。

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

在这观察世间百态也是一件有意思的事情

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techlee (54) · 7 years ago

爬楼看了一下发的关于点赞的帖子 👏 ，这里水真深，看来要学会游泳

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

这里的水倒是很清，可以看到很多东西

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minnowpond (62) · 7 years ago

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bellyrub (60) · 7 years ago

This wonderful post has received a bellyrub 45.37 % upvote from @bellyrub thanks to this cool cat: @nationalpark. My pops @zeartul is one of your top steemit witness, if you like my bellyrubs please go vote for him, if you love what he is doing vote for this comment as well.

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minnowpond1 (48) · 7 years ago

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ace108 (77) · 7 years ago

好像没多少人没"中火"过。

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago (edited)

哈哈哈，大家还都以为他真的看了帖子，真的支持。真的让人‘上火’。
现在这个垃圾制造者造谣说我在chat有很多账户，让我坦白从宽交代所有小号。真是个撒谎专家，服了他了。
在美国见识过很多能撒谎的人，其中不少是他的同胞，但是那些人跟他比简直太弱了。

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bullionstackers (71) · 7 years ago (edited)

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rahuljaichand (0) · 7 years ago

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firepower (79) · 7 years ago

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago (edited)

Dear friend, whatever you say you cannot hide the truth that you are a spammer. Spamming is the cancer of Steemit and need to be cured.
What I am doing is revealing the spammer, that is useful for Steemit. What you are doing is hurting Steemit.
Shame for you! Shame for your country!

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firepower (79) · 7 years ago

You are the real spammer bad mouthing others for your own gain! I've done plenty of work that has benefitted hundreds if not thousands of people on this platform in over a year that I've spent here. Get your facts right!!

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

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firepower (79) · 7 years ago

Keep thinking whatever it is that you want and live in your misconceptions!

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rahuljaichand (0) · 7 years ago

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

Stop flagging me, you spammer. You brought shame to your Country, India!

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firepower (79) · 7 years ago (edited)

If anything you have brought shame and ruin upon yourself for trying to defame me and the work I have done towards the Steemit community. If you are really out there looking for spammers then go and look at the platform and catch the real bad ones and you'll find plenty you sock puppet of an idiot! If you are going to come after me for making a bunch of comments and encouraging noobs joining here then prepare to get nuked! Dont complain you weren't given a fair warning! I have people supporting my work just as any other top user and if you cant digest that fact then get ready to make few pennies instead of the dollars that you are! Good luck!

rahuljaichand (0) · 7 years ago

littleboy (72) · 7 years ago

Are you even part of steemcleaners? The steemcleaners site doesn't mention you. Also, why post the same post twice in such short time?

rahuljaichand (0) · 7 years ago (edited)

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rahuljaichand (0) · 7 years ago

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

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bullionstackers (71) · 7 years ago

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bashadow (65) · 7 years ago

You need to look at his comments (@firepower) before making such a comment. I looked at 20 random comments made by @firepower, and he did upvote each and every one of them. Just because a friend or someone that professes to be an expert tells you something you need to verify before accepting it as fact. How many new users on a daily basis do you welcome to steemit, and give a vote to?

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

I believe you misunderstood what he said

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bashadow (65) · 7 years ago

Okay, I may have misunderstood. I am getting tired, and I think I am done with this situation, and will refrain from making any further comments about it. I have already been hit twice by @berniesanders and his house of cards, and do not need to deal with another situation like that, so as I said, I will bow out of this thread and situation.

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firepower (79) · 7 years ago

How many new users on a daily basis do you welcome to steemit, and give a vote to?

Well said!

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freehuman (45) · 7 years ago

he did upvote each and every one of them.

Not true.

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

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bullionstackers (71) · 7 years ago

Steemit.chat
Apparently, he run the site

riverhead (61) · 7 years ago

I host steemit.chat but @firepower does a lot of work as an admin and community manager.

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bullionstackers (71) · 7 years ago (edited)

@riverhead , why did he kick me out from steemit.chat just because of this post? This kind of behavior is unacceptable!
I respect your respond to this post.

Also , he don't have the authority to use the Curie Guild keys for his personal vendetta to downvote anyone here.

nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago

I plan to write an article about the censorship and dictatorship of steemit.chat. Do you want to provide information? Do you want me to mention your id in the article? Thanks

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nationalpark (63) · 7 years ago (edited)

Did you also kick me out of steemit.chat? I cannot login.
Spamming is spamming, no matter from whom. The spamming from a high reputation user is much more harmful than a low reputation user.
Past contribution to the community should not be the excuse of spamming.
I plan to write an article about censorship of steemit.chat, your help is high appreciated.
Thanks

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