Goodbye Steemit Thanks to @Sadkitten

in steemit •  6 years ago  (edited)

Goodbye Steemit.... it has been fun..

I am leaving @steemit Thanks to @Sadkitten and all her Downvotes.

So sad.... Powering down.... Goodbye.

Life is Good ... until @Sadkitten comes along.

All photos by me....

I have voted many times for many artists and other creators of original content..... A Robot like @sadkitten could never know this....I have brought many new artists and photographers to Steemit via several Facebook Groups that I manage.. i have limited internet access these past 2 weeks and just posting and upvoting my photography when I am near a tower. A downvoting Robot would not understand this....

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  ·  6 years ago (edited)

Screw sadkitten.

That's what I said.... I guess he doesnt like me paying myself 20 cents for all my original Photography and Art work... meanwhile some others upvotetheir posts with hundreds $$$$$$

  ·  6 years ago (edited)

Exactly why: SCREW sadkitten. There's a lot of hypocrisy and double standards in this space, by the same people/whales who pretend to care.

Only @drakos cares.... the Only Witness who is worth having on my Witness List....

I'm going to remove all mine and just vote for Drakos, well pointed out. [edited: done!]

Me too....

Glad. To see you decided to stay.

Yeah... slowly moving over to Minds.com

https://www.minds.com/register?referrer=Offgridlife

So sorry to hear. Please don't leave.
Don't let a bot get you down.

Sadkitten is an automated bot. If you upvote others a bit more it'll just leave you alone.

Don't quit just because of a bot.

"It will just leave you alone" ... For the time being...

It's an automatic bot that calculates how much a person self-votes vs how much they vote for others. Voting for others will stop it. It's not my bot but that's how it works.

I know, i was just trying to say that @sadkitten algo works on a self vote percentage of 85%? at the moment, after it has got rid of all those people from Steemit, it will no doubt reduce to perhaps say 80%.. then 75% ... then... 70%... then 5%?

Were does it stop? how much damage do they cause first?

Something like that. I can't see it rationally going under 50% at the very least since that'll beat the point. There are better ways for it to act. For example, if it instead finds all those people who upvote others' posts at 0.05% and then their own comments in them for 100%.

Yeah good point re: 50% I did a little research and have changed my mind, I now think that they will probably not attack people under 85% due to a well known whale that sits at this level of self votes.

It would be self harming in the extreme to attack him.

We have down voted @haejin before actually, you can verify that for yourself.

i was just trying to say that @sadkitten algo works on a self vote percentage of 85%?

That's not correct. It will maximally down vote with 85% votes. The criteria for being identified as a high self voter are frequently self voting yourself during the previous week and not voting for others very much or at relatively much lower strength.

It's unlikely it will need to be stopped any time soon but we're refining the algorithm as we go. Recently I added greater strength to the mitigating factor of outgoing votes so a nice percentage outgoing should make you invisible to sadkitten.

Also not that, as I have said many times, SteeemReports.com is not accurate and not a good yardstick for knowing yourself votes.

A vote, any vote should come freely and from the heart and not forced under the point of a gun, trying to force people to vote on something when they does not wish to is wrong and it forced by and only done by control freaks and look up the definition of control freak it fits the sadkitten bot.

Down votes are not violence. No one is forced to do anything, your metaphors are all over the place. We vote against the highest self voters, and we don't even fully counter further self votes, we only down vote to 85%.

Everyone is free to vote as you say, recognize that works both ways.

con·trol freak
ALERT TO ALL now to the definition and please take the time to look them up and you will find them also to all you will very quickly understand and realize that the definitions fit perfectly the @sadkitten and the one who made it, and that is very sad to all us on steem, with all the control freaks on here , steem and steemit has no where to go but down to the trash can as trash , so sell all of your steem and get out as fast as possible and run run as far away as you can

con·trol freak noun informal
a person who feels an obsessive need to exercise control over themselves and others and to take command of any situation.

Psychopath:

A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse.

Psychopaths tend to lack normal human emotions such as guilt. They are also often highly intelligent and skilled at manipulating others.

"con-troll" is what I got out of that, which is actually pretty interesting.

It's not right to say sell sell sell. This is a relatively new decentralized concept with a whole bunch of different people with different ideas and very little guidance from any one entity. We just need to find ways for different approaches to work together.

as for control freak the definitions fits and as long as those types of bots are running around on steem downvoting on auto and or doing other wrong acts then steem will go down as people will revolt and leave and steem will be a very sad joke that no one wants any part of,

It's just one of those realities of decentralization. There's no one to revolt against, which is part of the issue. There's no centralization here. The more dialogue we establish between everyone the better for the ecosystem.

YES there is something as for the revolt if people make a choice to not to vote and not to post and not to have anything to do with steem then that is a revolt against it, and if there is no one to buy steem then the price goes in to the toilet, the bots have got to be done away with they are making people loose any hope that they may have in steem that is the point

So what would you say would re-establish your faith in Steem?

IF all the bots that vote up and vote down where to be removed from steem then that would GREATLY re-establish every persons faith in steem for it will remove those who try to game the system and those that wish to use censorship against others

also you should read my last post i just made to steem

(edited)

@guiltyparties

He can say what he likes, he has been unfairly attacked be two different law bots for what I suspect to be his political viewpoint.

Not one freedom loving person on here has stood up for him.

He has been adding fairly decent content and contributing to steemit for a long time by producing content and investing in steem.

After viewing some of his videos they are not spam & are actually very timely topics.

He has been unfairly attacked.

I'm not telling him what he can't say, I'm merely suggesting that mutual understanding is the future of Steem. If anyone is ever attacked by random bots or even random accounts they should feel free to reach out for help with a resolution. Myself and other long-term users are here to help where possible.

Ok fair enough, that's good to know.

[...] he has been unfairly attacked be two different law bots for what I suspect to be his political viewpoint.

I can only speak for @sadkitten but it is based purely on self voting behavior, the bot doesn't read the content and doesn't privilege any account over any other. Period.

False .... there are 3 other bots or people following your downvote lead.

I obviously can't control what other bots do, my statement is true. Which ones are you talking about? Maybe I can reach out to them.

@welcoming and @zer0hedge.... but maybe they are humans? I cant tell anymore who is a robot or just an evil human.

a vote should come freely and from the heart and NOT FROM THE POINT OF A GUN BEING FORCED TO VOTE which is what the control freak @sadkitten tries to force people to do so

Hi, I'm the technical person(z) behind @sadkitten. I'm sorry to hear that you're powering down and leaving Steem because of the bot (although it doesn't look like you're following through?)

You were identified as a high self voter because of prolific posts (very frequent) with high self votes on them and very little outgoing votes. Despite what many posters here think, and no matter how many times I tell them, it's not about self voting percentage but about self voting behavior vs outgoing vote behavior**.

I hope you'll reconsider and stick around.

Yeah, I'm just a small time minnow here upvoting my original content and artwork with 20 cents so that eventually willI have more Steem Power to upvote other artists which I already do. Luckily a few very kind Steemit Witnesses showed me some Love (unlike @sadkitten which shows only hate to small time Steemit Minnows it seems) .... do you ever downvote @haejin or others that upvote their posts with $100 +++ ?

It doesn't really matter what you're going to do with it, as it stands you're only really benefitting yourself with your votes and you're in the top few dozen on the platform doing this regardless of SP. It's about the behavior, not the size of the account for @sadkitten. Everything is relative to stake on Steem.

You can check the history of what the bot does at https://steemd.com/@sadkitten, and yes we have down voted @haejin.

Sorry I have upvoted a lot of other artists, photographers and other creative content people here on Steemit for the past year.

The bot looks at behavior over a week only.

Ok thanks.

  ·  6 years ago (edited)Reveal Comment

Flagged personally because this is truly a disgusting parable. Grow up, you are not a child, act your age.

con·trol freak TRYING TO FORCE PEOPLE AT THE POINT OF A GUN TO UPVOTE others is wrong and evil and a vote any vote should be free to give and come from the heart not forced by evil control freaks
ALERT TO ALL now to the definition and please take the time to look them up and you will find them also to all you will very quickly understand and realize that the definitions fit perfectly the @sadkitten and the one who made it, and that is very sad to all us on steem, with all the control freaks on here , steem and steemit has no where to go but down to the trash can as trash , so sell all of your steem and get out as fast as possible and run run as far away as you can

con·trol freak noun informal
a person who feels an obsessive need to exercise control over themselves and others and to take command of any situation.

Psychopath:

A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse.

Psychopaths tend to lack normal human emotions such as guilt. They are also often highly intelligent and skilled at manipulating others.

😲😕
I have so much to learn about Steemit. I didnt know this could happen. Please don't leave.

The only thing to learn here is that the Steem community does not appreciate people who only upvote their own posts and comments. Maybe the guy adds a lot of value to some communities on Steemit, I don't know, but for the past 2 weeks 90% of his votes have been on himself:

http://www.steemreports.com/outgoing-votes-info/?account=offgridlife&days=14

Hopefully, he sees that it was a mistake and find other ways to use his Steem Power. I'm sure there are plenty of alternatives where he would actually earn a lot more.

Some of us Minnows Power up everything so that we can upvote our posts with 24 cents so that we eventually have more Steem Power to have more value in our upvotes for others... oh well.... wrong strategy.

I feel you. And yes I think it is the "wrong strategy" in the sense that I believe you would earn more SP by adding value to communities that in turn wants to reward you for your presence here.

At least I experienced when I came on that spending my quite irrelevant low SP (at the time) on others whilst giving it my best with my own content resulted in me getting votes that far outweighed what I could have gotten from self-voting 100%.

Only trying to give you my 50 cents here while answering the person above why some of your posts got flagged in the first place.

Fredrikka, Spoken like a true whale...I dont see your comments on the whales who circle jerk each other, look at allasyummyfoods and hef bf and alts, look at adamkokesh and his hundreds of dollars of self upvotes....all the whales and dolphins self vote and look after their mates but you do nothing! Seriously you fucking hypocrite spinless piece of shit, fuck off and do something really worthwhile for the community.

Must be the first time someone called me a whale. I guess I should be flattered. I didn't flag this post, I simply pointed out why it got flagged with my suggestion that he would make more on steemit with a different strategy than the one he is making. No reason to get upset about anything.

I am no fan at all of the people who only circle jerk. I do a lot to spread my own votes and are supporting many different communities both with my own account and with SteemPress. So I know very well that I do more for the community than most.

As for why I don't comment on these other blogs. Well, I choose to focus on where I can add value rather than complaining about others. Someone just happened to share this post with me and I felt the need to answer a guy's question.

@fredrikaa Heartless! It's not his mistake. He is another person that has been attacked by @sadkitten How do they sleep at night harming others? They don't believe they are attacking people, they think they are doing good. Well this post clearly shows they are doing the opposite and harming retention rates. @ned

Self voting is written into the code and is one of the few ways to earn a few cents when you are starting out and enjoying this incentive platform

Not all of us had the insight, fortitude and timing to buy steem for a few cents, many like me have invested a lot of money. Getting a few cents back is not harming anyone. When we have got a few bob, we can share more around!

There is only one law "do no harm to others" all other laws reduce our freedom.

@offgridlife I think your art (you have a good eye) is really cool, please consider delegating your sp like I am currently earning 20% Apr. Then perhaps come back to fight another day when the steem price picks up. Check out isteemd.com for more info. 18% + 1.5% interest from steemit.

It will only take one steem dapp becoming successful to rocket the steem price, dlive.io is one such dapp that is getting very popular currently 45k on alexa.com/search and rising.

the way to save Steemit isn't with bots, bots always fuck up. Trending is full of people upvotig themsleves for big bucks and you get downvoted for upvoting yourself for small change, it's bullshit. I saw a whale the other day who upvotes all his own comments for 15 dollars each, why isn't this bot going after that shit?

Best thing to do is to stay away from the trending page. There is some gems to be found in the new section.

Happy you decided to ignore the sad kitten.

Slowly moving over to Minds.com... Join me there for Free Minds Tokens.

https://www.minds.com/register?referrer=Offgridlife

Sorry to read your post. It seemed to me that you had fun here. I am probably mistaken. It was nice to meet you.🙏

Why were you downvoted?

Because I upvoted my own photography with 24 cents... at a rate above 90%

No, because of very frequent self voting on many posts.

I have voted many times for many artists and other creators of original content over the past year ..... A Robot like @sadkitten could never know this....I have brought many new artists and photographers to Steemit via several Facebook Groups that I manage.. i have limited internet access these past 2 weeks and just posting and upvoting my photography when I am near a tower. A downvoting Robot would not understand this.... I think in many cases your Robot is broken and should be fixed. I have seen many people (very good artists and creators of original content quit Steemit because of downvoting

That may be the case, and that's great. But if that's true then your behavior has changed recently. I can't overstate this - you were one of the top self voting users in the week previous. Those are the facts.

Yeah. That's great. Keep up the good work here on Steemit.