There has been a lot to talk about self-voting on steemit lately, so I thought I'd share my thoughts openly on the subject.
WHAT I REALLY THINK ABOUT SELF VOTING
VOTE FOR ME, I DO ???
First off, let's remember a few things. People are free to use their votes however they want. This means that if they want to post ten times a day and only vote for themselves, they are completely free to do so. However, I think that many of us would realize that we are all a part of a community. You are not a community.
If you support what you do, you should feel free to vote for yourself. For minnows out there, it really doesn't make a huge difference anyway and you are not even coming close to "draining the rewards pool" by doing so. Feel free to support yourself, but I would highly recommend supporting others too. Some people vote for themselves far more often than others, and a fun way to check is to use this tool : http://steemreports.com/outgoing-votes-info/?account=papa-pepper&days=31
I left my name in the search engine, but swap it out for any other account on steemit. Also, you can adjust the days to search from 1 to 31, so you can check the votes of others over the past day to the past month. Try your own name, and see how you are doing.
Personally, while people are free to do things however they want, they must remember that their actions have consequences. If you want to hear more of what I think, just watch the video above. Thanks!
As always, I'm @papa-pepper and here's the proof:
proof-of-voting-for-others-as-well
Until next time…
Don’t waste your time online, invest it with steemit.com
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I stopped self voting a while ago, my votes are so small still I'd rather share them with others. Do you have any idea where I can find out how long new accounts are taking to be approved? A few people I'm trying to introduce to it have been waiting like 10 days
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@adammillwardart This Post by @timcliff should help you learn to create accounts without waiting. (Self voted for visibility.)
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I'll vote some for visibility too! Thanks for the help!
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Same here, I invested money so I can upvote myself! But nobody posts 10 times a day so I got upvotes left to like people in my genre.
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voted ur comment :)
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I do not know, but I'll upvote this comment to help others see it. Maybe one of them has an answer.
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Thanks! Hope so, I'm friends with a lot of artists and independent clothing brand owners etc.. A few have already started Steeming, but a few are still waiting ;)
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Same here. I figured I could give myself 4 upvotes a dayish, or I could give those votes to minnows with few votes on good posts or to certain people who have supported me to this point. I go through and look at my feed and the main feed regularly and when I find the posts I want to vote on, I vote, give a relevant comment and maybe resteem. If at the end of the day I have any voting power left I will upvote comments or posts from a couple of people who have supported my journey to this point. I have met a nice little group of people, a few through @papa-pepper's posts.
I try to post a few things each day to build my blog content and build my follower base, not worrying about the money at all. The value of my own posts and comments will be determined by others.
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That's a good way to do it!
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I found that with the people I brought to steemit, some email address they use take longer than others, when I joined I used an icloud email address and it took 3 weeks for me to get in.
my friend used gmail and was in with in 24 hours, another used gmail on the saturday and was live by monday.
there are other ways of getting on steemit, you can by a steemit account using : https://anon.steem.network/ this is the quickes and most simple way. but costs 5 steem to get one. hope this helps :)
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Within the last couple of weeks it has taken my friends around 6-8 days, but I have a friend or two still waiting. It may just be a big influx, which will put strain on it. Growing pains means growing so its good news. Also, go to steemnow.com and watch your voting power, I noticed you upvoted his reply but it was below .01. When you are starting out, you have to keep an eye out so that your votes are making a difference!
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Thanks! I'll let my friends know there's still hope. I've heard different opinions about voting when your full votes are only worth .01 or .02. I lean towards better to let 50 people a day know "I dig your content" or "Thanks for your comment" than be stingy with votes that are worth so little anyway.
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I think with the rule changes to youtube have alot of people coming over and its taking longer because of the flood of new people coming to steemit. Not 100% sure but i think this is maybe the reason.
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As a new steemer I found your video informative. Thank you
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As a rule, I do not upvote myself. As my upvotes only give a few cents, I don't exactly see a reason why I shouldn't give it out to other people. I think that it would only make sense that way. If you can't give, you can't receive.
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Agreed. 100% go ahead and give yourself a vote the same you would anything you come across, if you find value in it, if you are proud etc. People know when they are being ding dings- voting every comment they make etc. Also, many don't realize that they have wasted their voting power and it means nothing and just looks tacky. Use those votes to thank and cheer on authors/artists you want to see more of and you will have a world with interesting ideas available to you!
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Right... I think, over the long run, you will get more votes from others when you don't upvote yourself. Occasionally it is necessary, but you are better off doing it only "as needed".
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Very well said and a great attitude to have.
I loved that point too!
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:) thanks
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Humans sure are a bunch of ding dongs lol x)
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LOL!
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This is really great advice.
Predominantly self voting one self is absolutely unhealthy for the community at large, if everyone did that, the community would get really stagnated and only a couple of people that can significantly upvote themselves would be rewarded.
This will be very discouraging to newbies may actually reduce the number of sign ups.
Let's keep our beautiful community healthy.
Thanks @papa-pepper
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Very, very well said. I think that if we look at it that way, we will all try to spread the votes around, regardless of whether we give ourselves some of our own votes too.
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Wow that’s really amazing. But don’t be so strict to self voting. People who finds it difficult to blog, can self vote. Just personal opinion
@josteem
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I wasn't.
Oh yeah, there is nothing wrong with that.
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Yep 👍🏼
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Uhm.... Up voting others actually does more for me than up voting myself. Ive gained a few new friends and acquaintances just by upvoting their posts
Asides the curation rewards
It encourages others when you upvote especially newbies... No matter how small your upvote is worth it encourages them
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Very good point!
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Well said. I agree totally. Selfvoting makes sense and especially for small users.
In fact in the early days, you might be your own audience. However, stake grows like compounding interest, so new users shouldn't be too disappointed.
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A very, very good comment. Spot on!
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Good morning sir.
Personally I feel that some big fishes are still fighting for sbd with the minnows.
Most receive upvotes from their minnow followers and yet can't take the pain to go through minnows quality posts and share their upvote. Even if it's 1sbd
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Yeah, a lot of that happens too. That is one reason I was glad to see that I almost supported 500 different steemians with upvotes in the last month. We can't get them all, but we can try.
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Yes sir that's an awesome way to start..
And I'm so happy you're a beacon to other whales 🐳 out there....
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A good, good, good video.
The issue of self-voting has perplexed me since I started.
I don't self-vote, but I don't now have any problem with anyone else doing so.
As I have journeyed from minnow to dolphin it becomes a more interesting issue to work through for myself.
When my vote was only a few cents it didn't really matter either way. Now as I grow on the platform and my vote is worth a couple of dollars it is something I think much harder about.
It will always be a moving target but at the moment I have a fairly defined voting 'strategy' :
I vote for people I have brought to the platform - particularly until they have become established enough to look after themselves.
I vote for the people that help me with my radio shows, and for those that participate in the shows, either as guests or winners of the 60 Second Quizzes.
I try to vote as much as I can for a number of charities I support on the platform. Generally the more relevant posts they put out the more I can support them.
I vote as often as I can for people who support me with their votes. I can't keep up with the feed so often I will just hop on to their profile once a week or so and vote up as many of their current posts as possible.
And finally I will go visit any homesteaders and preppers, new and old, I come across and vote on posts that catch my eye with quality content. I particularly try to home in on any posts with only a few cents on them. If I can I try to get them up to a dollar. I'm sure my grandma used to have a saying "Every Good Post Deserves A Dollar" or something like that...
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Well summarized and ditto... as I said below if you are using it to help others and give back to the community I don't see a problem at all!
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Nice way of doing it. It helps to plan a lot of the time, or at least some general idea of what you are doing! Thanks @pennsif!
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I agree what you said in Video... 100% agree... Short comment! No need to make it longer. I Read all their comments...
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i love this discussion. upvoted the post.... a bunch of comments...and my own comment. spread the steem JOY! just like broadcasting seeds...in the garden!
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Do you macke a good job! I have 24.8 %. Thank you for the Tools steemreports.com
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I am as well guilty if this though , I feel I need to support myself if nobody does atleast I will do that for myself , well concerning draining the reward pool , we all cause disadvantage to the system, guess with time we will all have the better understanding of the effect ... Thanks for this observation @papa-pepper
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You should support yourself! Your effect on the reward pool is almost nonexistent.
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Ayemi ooo!! Lol ... So true , but sometimes when talking about draining the reward pool I hide my face , thanks for this educative interaction , it was helpful
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Don't hide your face about that. You've got nothing to do with stuff like that.
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Good news there, we need support too in exchange
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It's a normal thing papa For self voting here on steemit. That is what I observe since when I've been on steemit. People do vote themselves after they drop there post. My view @papa-pepper
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Yup, I did that for over a year. I've just met a lot of minnows lately who are scared to, and they shouldn't be. These days I rarely vote on my own posts, but that is my choice. Others can choose otherwise.
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Lol papa, but now I know you don't vote yourself anymore. You are now our Papa here
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As a minnow, I upvote myself quite a bit, but @papa-pepper is #2 on my vote list :D.
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Still, only 15% of your votes are on yourself and you've almost voted for 150 other steemians this month. You're getting around and building the community up. Also, thank you very much for the support. It truly means a lot to us.
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No worries. I like your stuff and you actually inspire me. I like your heart felt videos when you do those. Good stuff, real, and sincere. Wishing you continued success.
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I'm still a plankton and i always hope there's a big fish that is feeding me, thanks @papa-pepper that the whale care about us like you, because the income is important so we can feel with our hard work even though it's far from perfect but we will continue to learn to improve our selves and this take time until we can and believe steemit can provide benefits for all humans in this world
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Very interesting with this post and also very logic after we read it very super @ papa-pepper
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I try to be honest and logical. Thank you!
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Thanks sir papa-pepper for the infor GOD bless you i will watch the video though self voting help steemian some time
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I'm glad I read this, this is so informative
Thanks as always papa!!!
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The way I look at is that you have to love yourself first before you can be loved by others or give love to others. I think it applies to steemit.com pretty well, when you first start no one else is going to vote for you so you should vote for yourself. There is a reason that there is a box to check to vote for yourself on your post. As you go on though your vote, like love, is like a magic penny, the more you give away the more you get.
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I like it. That's a nice way of looking at it.
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thank you for sharing information with us @papa-pepper, it is really useful to know how far our steemit development is not only selfish but also to give our voice to other steemit.
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I really hope all users steemit or community will help each other, including me although my power is still small I will mengupvote posting from others, posts that I think is suitable for upvote or interesting posts and What I like. My opinion is like that @papa-pepper, thanks for sharing post.
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Thank you for checking it out!
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I think I've voted for myself once and I've never taken a selfie. I just wasn't raised that way. You want to photograph something that's good looking why would you photograph something that life has beaten the Hell out of?
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There are some things that are nice to have in the background of a picture of yourself for sure. As for me, I reserve most of my selfies as a size reference for the subject of the photo.
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Thanks @papa-pepper for clearing this to me . basically i always had a doubt and confusion about this self voting stuff.. Now it seems easy to me.. And btw my voting power its not enough, how can i increase my voting power so that i can earn with my own voting at least..
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In the beginning, which was not too long ago, I was self voting and not realizing it. Then I noticed the check box on the bottom of the Post screen. It was checked and I don’t believe I ever checked it. I was voting for myself and did not realize it. I wonder if is comes to the new Steemians as a default and perhaps some are doing, like me, without realizing it.
My personal thoughts were give and it shall be given unto you and also the Bible passage about Steem! That is right Steemit in the Bible!
Php 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves. Plus the Golden Rule!
Not that I am anyone to give advice, I did a post about my discovery and I decided to uncheck the box and to vote up other people’s post because it seems to be the right thing to do.
Thanks for the reminder. God bless!
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Yeah, I left that box checked for a long time myself, but later went a different way.
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people should do what they want to do
and not let themselves be shamed into doing other wise.
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Amen to that. Whether they bought their Steem Power or Earned it, they invested something. If they upvote theor own content, then they are getting an ROI. That is a good deal for them. Like me, your votes have also supported almost 500 other authors in the past month. That shows that you get around and invest in the community.
Thanks @everittdmickey!
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you're welcome.
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I got the dosage that I need for my trip down to Ibadan for the meet-up. Thanks @papa-pepper
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Very cool! Have fun my friend!
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It is normal to vote or support thimself. But it is our choice if you vote your self or not. Thanks for sharing this information sir @papapeper god blessed you always...
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well your post on this really, help people to under stand the concept of self up voting and because of many of them are following you.
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I thought I was the only one who has witnessed this self voting, just as @papa-pepper has said, you can vote yourself ten times, but all the same still support other minnows who are joking the platform to, by so doing you're encouraging them and also supporting the community.
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That's right!
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I barely vote myself, reason is that being a minnow, my VP can be used to vote others before it finally drains out, i always set it at 100%, someone advised me to do that and i've been doing that for a couple of months now. What we expect from the bigger fishes in the community is their mutual support in respect to what we give them as little fishes but we rarely get that. You have opened my eyes, ears to some important things this morning Nigerian time. I love what you do @papa-pepper, keep it on man
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You're a very nice person I see. Indeed there is no rule to have to vote the work of others here. But you always give support to people who are very serious in working in this steemit. Because we are born into a community and steemit builds relationships between people and humans and always gives positive things in the steemit community. Thank you for the great affection for us here. Good luck always for you @papa-pepper.
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Self voting is really not a bad idea but in cases where someone upvotes his/her comments 100% on a post he/she upvoted with less than 20% that is my issue with iit. Apart from that i support @papa-pepper
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Yup, that is an issue. That is not the way to do it at all, in my opinion.
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Just watched on Youtube. Great video, nice to hear your thoughts.
Someone like yourself who gives away a lot in prizes and build community through the contests you run should upvote your stuffas you circulate it back into the community.
Someone who is just spam posting and upvoting their own comments to take as much as they can for personal gain should maybe rethink what they are doing.
And no, you did not bore me. I am actually following with interest this issue as one user is really abusing the system and is garnering a fair bit of attention from a couple of other whales. The fallout will be interesting to watch.
I myself don't upvote, haven't for almost a month, as I prefer to share my limited votes to other minnows who have not many or no votes on their stuff. I choose posts which obviously took a bit of work, are good quality and interesting and vote, comment and re-steem to show them someone has paid attention. Nothing worse than wondering if anyone cares about all the work you have put into a post. My vote might only be worth 1c at the moment, but I think it is more important just to re-assure people their efforts are not just just floating through the system and no-one is appreciating them. There is a great post I resteemed last night, which had none on it when I hit it and now has a few of my followers upvoting it, I hope that it makes a difference to the user.
Anyway, enough of my thoughts, but it is great to hear yours.
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Amen to that. While it is permissible many would not consider it to be a good choice.
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I think you make some valid points. I didn't start upvoting until I got my slider, mostly because I just didn't think of it LOL.. But now I vote for myself and everyone else. At the moment I've lost my slider because I had to power down a little, at the same time I set up autovotes because I was getting too short of time trying to be sure to vote from everyone. So my auto votes are happening but I don't know how they're affected by the loss of my slider.
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When you get back up to 490 Steem Power, you'll get your slider back.
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I agree with you sir.. as part of this community my willingness to support is my no#1 priority because it is also a way for you to communicate with others and establish good rapport.. I do upvote my post just to gain even .01 cents as my power is not enough to give me high reward.. sometimes people will upvote you back in return as you've upvoted them. Some time it drains my SP. For almost a week as what I notice no longer support is coming from curator and I'm so confused if there is something wrong with my work.. I tried making quality post but still only few people visited my wall and leave some message. It's not all about what we can gain it's more on learning but I guess it's not bad to desire for reward after the sleepless night you're doing making good stuff.. Still never recognize...But the good thing is I learn how to appreciate my work by simply giving a kick of upvote and receiving single comment from anyone is a great privilege at somehow there are people who are still supportive.. and that is @surpassinggoogle .. thanks for sharing your thoughts about this sir.. I will take note on this one for sure.
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Yes, @surpassinggoogle is very inspirational and a blessing to our community!
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When I wake up from sleep. I see this post and I read until finish.
There are a lot of knowledge I found in this post.
This you for sharing do much knowledge for us my friend
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I do that once in a while even in my post i self vote, the reward is just meagre. @papa-pepper thank for standing and supporting the minnows. You're source of inspiration. Steemian like are the reason we still hold on
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I try to help and encourage. Be blessed my friend!
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@papa-pepper Thank you for this information I didn't know you could use that tool to search like that for your votes. Keep helping the community and us newbies.
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It is a good tool!
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Yes papa, very good tool
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I have to write that one down so I remember it thanks once again
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I liked your post, thank you very much for the information you shared. I like it because I like it here, I like your video, you're a good blogger. I support you and put your voice.
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When I was a newbie I self voted. I have not for a number of months. I would rather upVote other rather than myself. Thanks @papa-pepper
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That is how I do it now. I upvoted all my posts before, but now, especially with only 10 full power votes per day, I prefer to vote for others.
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I think self-vote is okay, but the saying is so to people what you want others to do for you, your vote alone on your post won't give you your desired utility.
For now I go for selfvoting because it will reduce the reward system and as such there will be no need to peg sbd to $1 .
Tho my blog is suffering for now because of lack of upvote, we have just few curators in my community so the upvote can't go round but for now selfvoting is the best solution. Thanks for sharing @papa-pepper
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Nice post, I ilke this post master @papa-pepper
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Yes I do too. I am now curious how much percentage I upvoted myself. But I knew for sure I help other steemians in their post especially when they do comment. I catch it up..
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Way to spread the love!
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Yes it is.
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my friend did not know what to say, only I can say good post, thank you
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'You do not give what you do not have'. How about minnows without SP, who are weightless; their votes amount to nothing. Kindly spare a thought for them.
It's morally reprehensible for whales to crave the votes of their minnow followers without sparing a cent to encourage them for their efforts.
There should be some level of restrictions on self votes amongst the whales class, if this goes unchecked the rich will continue to get richer.
This goes against the whole essence of the Steemit and the blockchain, which is decentralisation and wealth redistribution.
Self votes amongst whales disempowers minnows and creates disaffection in Steemit. Upvote minnows and build Steemit.
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Completely agree with you. Personally I don't vote myself feel a bit wrong for me. As much as I am here to make money my main reason is to share and be apart of a group of people on the same wave length. Only together we make a difference! 💯🐒
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Thank you. I think that we all enjoy making money, but other things can be more important.
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Here is one another guilty of self voting. I just recently realized that self voting has disgrading my effort on putting up a quality content. Same as buying vote bot. I think I am doing fine and all my contents have quality, but self voting is like high-fiving self, Yes, this is community and I should rely on viewers point of upvoting my content.
Though I still thought that upvoting self or bot bidding will help us to promote our content, but it feels disgrading, so I stop it. I'll just leave it to the community if they feel that my posts are worth upvoting. But maybe sometimes. haha.
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Thank you very much for this self voting information.... GOD Bless
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what is consequences for self voting ?
i still don't know what the consequences or you have a link for me to read ?
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Thanks for sharing i will done up vote I always see your post. And follow you @papa-pepper
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Big @papa-pepper man I'm so happy for this post and for following/supporting your content! Even though I don't often comment, I truly appreciate all the wisdom you put out on the platform. Anyway man, respect will share this our friends and check out steemreports too! 👍
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Respect man! Thank you!
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I have not self upvoted myself in quite some time. Like you said, not that my 30 something cents is going to make a big difference in the reward pool. But I would rather that 30 cents go to someone that really needs it, someone other than myself. This was a great thing to post about, @papa-pepper!
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That's nice of you. But everything has advantages and disadvantages. But it's good to assist others, I just started following you
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Like you rightly said,my votes as a minnow is insignificant to the reward pool but even at that I still try to upvote people a lot especially those in a contest where the vote will actually count...lol let me quickly use the link your dropped to check how much I've been upvoting myself and others. Thanks for sharing
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I think people should upvote as they see fit as it tells you a lot about the person. I’m a minnow for now I need to grow to support those around me and the community I’m in even better. I also only blog once or twice a day so at end of the day it’s very little that goes to me. I have given not up voting my own blogs a try before in the past and people just seem less inclined to upvote since I’m a minnow and already did not bring in a lot of votes. People just assumed I didn’t feel my own work even derived a few cents of my own upvote.
My goal is one day to be at 0%. Recently i might have found some wonderful opportunity even to make it the case for myself that its hurting me more then than its worth. It is something i have to evaluate from time to time.
One thing I can’t stand is when people go out of their way to say they never upvote themselves or buy votes. Then you look in their wallet and all there earning get sent to another account. That account is not only upvoting their stuff but buying them upvote as well. It’s just amusing sometimes the lengths people go to act “holier-than-thou” mentality.
There comes to a point where so much self-voting hurts. In fact I have been debating internally for a while to unfollow someone due to their high percentage going to themselves. I still like their content I just don’t upvote it anymore since there better place I rather put few couple of cents.
I kind of wish it was not even an option but then people would just use a second account to do it anyway. At least in current way it is you can easily tell the kind of person someone is when it comes to community and building up those they engage with.
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@papa-pepper, this is very informative and educating about self-voting.
THANKS FOR SHARING
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thanks for making this wonderful video my friend.this is very helpful discussions. @papa-pepper
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If no one support you, you need to support yourself by upvoting your post. If you don't do that who will when your upvote at times might even be your payout after 7day. Thanks for sharing this boss
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When i first started out, that idea never crossed my mind, i don't know maybe it was because my upvotes didn't really count anyway and i am not sure how i would act if my upvotes count but i post twice a day and sometimes once but i enjoy Upvoting other people's post as much. I will wait to see how i would be when i have a massive SP hahaha. Kidding. This is a community, we should let it go round.
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Minnows keep swimming !
If i do not vote for myself .... Who will ? :)
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good informative post about self voting
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Self voting to me is not bad but as you said we are one big hell of a family on steemit. So many community I can't completely count. Make yourself part of one or two and make a huge impact instead of self voting five times a day.
God bless you @papa-pepper and God bless steemit.
@stevenmosoes
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Your post always bring meaning and inspiration. Nice job
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I was delegated the power of the voice, so I can not a priori vote only for myself, I must support the newcomers. I have a priority for newcomers and the development of our community.
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I self vote my posts. I publish one post per day. I know I'll be spending hours in the comment section joking around with people after I publish my one post. So that $5 self vote(that I earned through posting for many months) is there to help cover the costs of that time I spend. On top of that, I always upvote the good comments and make it my goal to hand out more rewards in the comment section than my self vote was worth. I succeed at that nearly everyday.
Personally, I think what I'm doing is both fair to myself as well as the community. A healthy balance.
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Yup, with all of your hard work already you've gotten to the point that your upvote is worth $5. Now you can get a return on that investment. Nothing wrong with that.
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You said it well. "There is no you in community."
Steemit has been an awesome community since I have been here. It is a shame there are those that just see themselves.
Stay golden Ponyboy.
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Oh that brings back memories.
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nice video dear,
i like your post
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I was surprised to hear that you haven't really been upvoting yourself. I do a ton of voting..... it is interesting to see a lot of people's approach. Some people are legit leech power hogs. LOL
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This is such an authentic perspective on self-voting issue. I agree that most minnows have to start by upvoting themselves as that is their only shot at being seen by any other community member and building their own micro community. I don't think there is much harm in that and it probably is a feature that will help us get mass market adoption (as newbies have some hope of growing with the platform even if they don't have huge SP). I think community quickly notices and responds if you are just someone who is only upvoting your own posts and not really interested in engaging with other community members. So although the people who only upvote themselves may not be stopped, I think they also don't get much community support in the long run (one cannot be a leader with such small heart). That's my 0.00 cent of opinion on this topic ;)
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great post dear friend
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Very cool post. I didn't know one could look that up. I just did and see I self vote 16% I run two contests a week where I give back 12 SBD to the community weekly (we hit top ten for comments on @arcange) weekly too so something is working. My point is these contests no where near pay for themselves, so even if I can get an extra few percent to pay steemians prizes by self voting it all helps, big difference I feel that, and those that do a 70% selfvote regularly for personal gain/greed, no names mentioned ;) The difference is paying yourself to pay/help others, relative to paying yourself to pay yourself. Cheer$;) Bruv!
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Love this! Well said. Followed you
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Hi Pappa-pepper!
I am back to blogging about my crazy life and race stories! Thank you for posting this I had a little break since last year and so many things had changed.
I vote for myself to be honest but I regularly vote for many many others too. Thank you for raising the awareness and the link. I will check how I am doing :).
Dashee
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You must write a lot of posts that I like, using the tool above, your 11% of my outward votes, you must have the gift of the gab there somewhere.
Thanks for the checking site, I didn't know it was there.
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Wow! I knew you supported me, but I never realized how heavily. Thank you my friend! It is a good tool!
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It is surprising what we do without realising it. I will be keeping an eye on it from here on.
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congenial & breathtaking!
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Thank you! I've been hearing so much drama going on between some whales and I find myself reading comments and trying to figure out what is going on. And then of course, hoping that I'm not doing something wrong myself. In fact, I even wrote this post 3 wks ago because I had just learned how to check my voting power and it was down so low that I wasn't voting anymore, but still wanted to comment. There is just so much new information for us newbies that it can be overwhelming. This video was very clear and I appreciate you taking the time to actually get online and show us first hand what you are talking about. Steem on!
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Good, sometimes I wonder how much sense I make so I like to call them "random rambles" just in case no one understands. LOL!
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excellent my friend @papa-pepper no doubt you are very right how great this platform is mutual help, I had the opportunity to make many friends from all over the world and that has helped me to grow seeing and supporting their work, that feedback what exists is great. As for the voting power, it is true that we must take care of it in order to give better and more support to the people who deserve it, everyone is free to use it as they wish but we must be responsible, regards
P.S. EXCUSE MY ENGLISH
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When you lease steem power from someone, its kinda instinct to upvote your own posts lol (because that's why you lease right!?)
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Thank you for sharing this video and stats.
I find this to be very interesting and kind of eye-opening as well.
Looking at my own stats, I definitely think I should upvote more different accounts and even though my self-vote stats are not that bad, I feel like I should self-vote occasionally and give more to the community.
Thank you once again!
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this is really @papa-pepper, because very much of them are only concerned with the siri themselves, they do not think of small fish.
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As a rather new member of the Steemit community, I struggle with this issue. I grew up in a time and place where it was considered ill-mannered to brag on yourself. I have voted on my own material, but was uncomfortable doing it.
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Well there is nothing wrong with it, but don't do anything that you are not comfortable with.
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Self voting never really made much sense to me as a plankton. When I began posting at the end of December, I was upvoting posts. It didn't boost the payout much. I was much more frustrated having low bandwidth, and voting power that was drained so easy. I still don't see the point of it. I do occasionally selfvote but I'm more interested in voting for other people.
I'd never looked at my pie chart before. It was a good feeling to see I've self voted only 0.9% of my 140ish votes. That said, I do start rationing my votes. I could use steemauto "slider" but that's useless if your vote is only a penny. I'd rather not run my voting power down so much that it's worth less than a penny. I don't need to burn a penny to show support. I try very hard to leave good quality comments and reply to comments, which I think is better support. I also thinned how many people I was following because most of the homesteading posters we're being buried in my feed.
Curious what your opinion is on rationing votes, @papa-pepper?
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I'm not sure, but I have a hard time throttling back my votes. Somehow it is easy to vote nearer 100% power until my power is down to 20% than just to vote at 20% and keep my power at 100%. The effect on the posts would be the same value wise....
I'm trying though.
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Yes i could see how itd be hard. I guess at 20% slider with 100% vp, you could vote for more posts/comments, but you already vote for a ton of posts/comments, and as you logically, rightfully said, you're only one person. You're so active itd be harder than it probably already is to vote for even more comments. Besides, since it works out the same, it's a moot point really. I'm at 70% rn and my penny is now at 0. Just how it is till I get thousands of sp. Sucks cuz I feel bad not voting, but voting with zero penny would just prolong how low it'd take to have any monetary value to get back to 1 penny. Anyway, I appreciate your video. Thanks for breaking it down w/ examples.
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That's very cool thanks for sharing
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thanks @papa-pepper for his very educational information. and thank you for sharing
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If self-voting adds to visibility I am all for it. As a newbie to steemit I would love to increase my visibility and thus following. I do believe I have a perspective on life and thngs.
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Absolutely, it does.
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Hi papa-pepper, I viewed your video and had a good laugh. I noticed you mentioned minnows as newbies. Is there anything lower than a minnow? I feel way down the pecking order of things.
I am a professor and your video reminds me of a teacher trying to get students to care and support other students.
In closing, any upvotes you can give me would be appreciated. This is assuming you do like the post. Please follow me. Do have a great day.
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Minnows are the lowest of the low, although some like to call themselves plankton. Thanks for the encouragement.
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I like planktons.
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If I have too much voting worth, I make self-voting. I think It is nice think to make people happy.
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helpful post...
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Thank you!
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I was upvoting myself but after talking with you it made me relize i need to build commuity. So upvoting yourself keeps you in the shadows of the world. Thanks for posting this.
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That's a pretty good perspective too!
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it's a nice ede may run successfully, @ papa-pepper people are very good.
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I up voted the first few posts I made when I started, but once someone explained how it worked (I think it might have been you, but I'm not positive) I stopped and haven't up voted myself since. I'm so glad you included the steemreports link because I've wondered about my voting. I was worried I was over voting but that shows me I'm good. :D Thanks. :D
Another great post to help us all learn to be better Steemians. :D
God bless you and the pepper clan. :D Have an awesome day my fabulous friend! :D
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Thank you @frostyamber!
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You're welcome @papa-pepper! :D
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What a nice balanced view you have shared. I’ve alternated between feeling guilty and feeling empowered when I have Upvoted my own posts. What I learned when I first started my own photography business was that I had to be all things to my business - including director of marketing! That meant blowing the trumpet about my business to others, because that was part of my job! I see it the same way on Steemit. I’m a minnow. For the most part, I have to do my own marketing. I normally Upvote my own posts, sometimes not right away, but when I see them struggling to be seen. I cant imagine being a whale or even a minnow and Upvoting only your own posts, but as you say there is nothing “wrong” on Steemit with that! It’ a very selfish attitude, so I would not be likely to Upvote that person!
I do not forsake Upvoting others - not at all! It gives me great satusfaction to do that. I intend to check out that neat link you gave us. Thanks!!
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Very nice! I'm glad that you enjoyed the video.
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I did! One thing that does annoy me, although not "wrong," is when someone does not see fit to Upvote my post, but makes a comment about THEIR OWN POST on MY POST and Upvotes that comment! I have not yet flagged anyone, but if ever I do, it will likely be for that reason. Seeing their unworthy comments plugging their own posts at the top of the list of comments in my post is quite annoying!
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Yeah, that's a big one sometimes! Not a good way to go!
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Hello papa thank you so much for sharing about this i was afraid that things maybe working in another way of not liking your own post
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This has been a pretty big debate topic recently on Steem and my two cents on this topic is that I don't see that much of an issue with self voting. People are on Steem to make money, now one of the best ways to do that is to post quality content to attract other users. By voting for yourself you add to your own value which is extremely important when you first start out. Unless you come into Steem and purchase STEEM or SBD it is a very slow start to get to a point where you can be of value towards others. There are a lot of people who I follow and support however, me giving my two cents literally to them does not help them as much as others. I do not vote for myself on every comment or post but sometimes it is necessary when you post quality and would like to move your comment towards the top of the page to get more views. I am not one to complain on this site as I have learned to love Steem and how it can make each and every person into their own bank and be apart of something amazing so early in its adoption.
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I agree.
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Thank you for tipping me off to this great site. I used it to check my own stats. I know alot of people tend to frown on self votes. I do upvote my own posts (all 4 cents worth at 100% power) but I usually wait til the 6th day to do it. Here is where I came in at in the last 31 days.
You can tell who I have on auto vote and posts alot by this chart.
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Thanks for the support my friend!
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Good advice sir, as always!
Yeah... I am usually hesitant to call out someone.... But these votes were for $0.30 each.... And not even for a Post they had worked hard at...but just for 6 word comments. Self voting like that, as I said, is not welcome on my Blog!
And I think you figured it out in the video, toward the end..... It wasnt 5 votes, Cve had voted for 5 people.... Himself and 4 others, but given like 96% of votes for himself...and only 4 votes for others....but at maybe 1%. All to himself at 100%.
Crazy!
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Yeah, I agree. I don't like calling people out either, but I think you had a valid point!
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Infortant news, thank you
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I think it's interesting that you vote on your comments not on the posts. If you vote on the posts, it raises the post's exposure and makes it more likely to get higher ranked. Since you put out quality posts, there shouldn't be an issue with that. All that being said, I admire that you're able to do what you do with so little self-voting. I still self-vote all my posts, but I get like a penny for it. Not a lot. As things progress, I'm hoping to take a similar approach. Thanks for all the rewards that you spread around. It's very selfless and is a huge boost to the community.
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Thank you for that my friend!
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I'm listening to the video now. Awesome content. I'm upvoting my own post helping a homeless friend on my profile via crypto-currency
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Hi @papa-pepper i like what your doing for the communities. I still consider myself as a newbie, and still trying to learn as much as possible about steemit. I understand that it is permissible to upvote yourself, and however it is also important to upvote other steemians content. Sometimes it is frustrating to see that other do not upvote our contents, but that’s understandable because they might not like what we wrote in our blogs. What you share here on
Is a great tool. I had a look at mine, and it does show that at least i do upvote general what i see as a good content. I’ve not really catch what my niche is, but slowly and surely i will one day.
Here’s what my steemreports says about me.
http://steemreports.com/outgoing-votes-info/?account=wilsonkoh&days=31
Thanks again for sharing this info.
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Cool! I'm glad that you checked out some data on yourself too, as it provides a new perspective!
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