Daily Steem Stats Report - August 17, 2017

maryfavour (63) · 7 years ago

I'm quite impressed with the unique style with which you present steem statistics, @penguinpablo. My first concern is in the area of the ratio of active users versus total number of accounts (23,740/315,955 = 7.51%). I see a problem with only 7.5% active users. Secondly, average comments/post of 3/1 means that humans are not being engaged. From my personal experience, over the last week or two, we now have spam and bots infested blogs. Sadly too from my experience, when these spam comments are flagged, they owners initiate a flag war. This statistics of yours is revealing a lot of things. Meanwhile, I would like to thank you for creating steemnow.com app, which I am now addicted to using.

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6 votes

demotruk (69) · 7 years ago

I don't think the daily active users to registered accounts metric is particularly important, for a few reasons:

Registered accounts is itself highly inflated by botters looking to a) profit with free Steem and/or b) just want multiple accounts for various reasons including sockpuppetry
Daily Active Users is not a commonly used metric for competing social networks, where monthly active users is the preferred metric
We measure daily active users much more tightly than competitors. Reddit for example has 250 million monthly active users at last report, but only 36 million accounts at last report. Our active users are only included if they actually have an account and post things, not just if they land on the site.

I agree with you that the spam commenting trend lately is a problem, our current methods for fighting spam are proving insufficient.

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2 votes

maryfavour (63) · 7 years ago

Thanks, @demotruk, for the detailed explanation about daily active users and registered accounts. So, what I should focus on is monthly active users. Well, from @penguinpablo's statistics and @arcange's that I've been following, I think the monthly average of active users is still very low. I'm glad that you've noticed the terrible trend of spam commenting lately, like they are desperadoes. The recent challenge that I had with flag war from mini accounts, led me to know @spaminator. @spaminator uses @sadkitten to deal with spam posts, comments, etc. They came to my rescue this morning and I am glad they did.

demotruk (69) · 7 years ago

You have to have something to compare it to, otherwise how can we say that we're doing well or poorly?

Obviously we are really tiny compared to our incumbent competitors and are going to have much lower active users no matter how it's measured. We can measure it as a ratio of registered accounts, but I just wouldn't say that is particularly meaningful when registered accounts is so inflated, and the metric we are using is not comparable to other platforms where merely landing on the website typically makes you an 'active user'. On Steemit a user could land on the site, have an account and log in with it, and they still might not get counted as an active user because they did not create a transaction which made its way to the blockchain.

I have been downvoting spammers myself, especially self-voting spammers, but I don't believe that current methods are sufficient. I hope to see spammers constrained in their network bandwidth.

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maryfavour (63) · 7 years ago

I have a better understanding of what you mean now, @demotruk. ''On Steemit a user could land on the site, have an account and log in with it, and they still might not get counted as an active user because they did not create a transaction which made its way to the blockchain.'' This is very true. Same here, @demotruk. I hope to see spammers constrained. Let's I forget, how are you faring with your steemit car? I just like that car. Greetings to your sister, whom I saw standing beside the car that day you put up a post about it. My kind regards.

knircky (73) · 7 years ago

Great post. I would love to see monthly active users as a result, vs daily but i do think the daily stat is useful as well. But we cannot expect every user to be active every day, so i think the daily 20k users is pretty good already.

Most importantly is growth and that users come and use steem regularly and get value from it.

demotruk (69) · 7 years ago

Daily active users is certainly useful for comparison to ourselves over time (and by that it has been clearly improving).

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amirl (63) · 7 years ago

Bots have value. They are part of every network

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murda-ra (56) · 7 years ago

Those 7.5% active users - 20% Bots. So, yes, Steem is a dying network since May/June this year.

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orionschariot (57) · 7 years ago

Everything looks really good except for the power downs, ouch. We need something to build excitement and get people to see the value in the platform to buy Steem and I'm hoping Dtube and Zappl will accomplish that.

If we can keep our new accountants above 1k per day, that's steady growth. Not set the world on fire growth, but steady. I think with the advent of Dtube and Zappl, we'll end up having quite a few users who will never even visit the Steemit.com site. That's pretty exciting!! Great job as always man!

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3 votes

redfishpillar (54) · 7 years ago (edited)

Another major issue from your statistics is (more than half a million steem) 567,766 STEEM powered down only yesterday viz-a-viz (about a quarter of a million) 252,523 steem . This shows that there was twice as much power down than there was power up. When too much liquid steem is available , the price that is already down will continue to go down. I think steem needs to be scarce to drive the price in the upward trend. Hopefully, this down trend for steem will change after summer holidays. Thank you so much for sharing, @penguinpablo.

Kind regards,
@maryfavour for @redfishpillar.

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2 votes

mynewsteemit (55) · 7 years ago

So daily active users is trending up, but posts trending down. That's odd. I'll guess it's because it's still challenging to customize your content feed. You can follow users but not categories, that needs to be fixed still.

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newsdesk (44) · 7 years ago

Activity will pick up in September its a normal cycle for summer months

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kevbot (56) · 7 years ago

not enough votes today!!!

2 votes

rizasukma (63) · 7 years ago

Thank you for generating today's information in the form of statistics .. a successful greeting for you