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rok-sivante (75) in steemit • 7 years ago (edited)

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7 years ago by rok-sivante (75)

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drumoperator (65) · 7 years ago

Consider me a huge proponent of Dsound (or something even more specialized) being a full on oasis of sounds and production material.

I have been marinating on the idea of releasing a library of modular synth sounds ... everything from "standard" leads, basses and kicks to way -way- more experimental eurorack-modular-only sorta territory. I had been planning on building a presence on youtube and monetizing it via said sample pack, but the opportunities presented here -eclipse- that in my opinion. Steemit (and dsound, dtube and whatever ends up being the defacto spotify-esque steem-enabled streeming vehicle) is a brand new playground for producer types, and once they see how easy it is to monetize your music ALREADY, I think there will be a strong contingency of people looking for samples and resources here. I just put a new Dsound track up today and the platform already feels slicker and improved from when I joined in December. Droves, man. Droves of producers will be using this in a year.

I was thinking when I hit 1000 followers I release a free 250 sound pack as a taste and charge something like 2 steem for a 1000 sound version ... but your post has actually got me going down the wormhole on how much more lucrative (and exciting) it would be to be a part of something that uses the existing steem infrastructure as a means of securing "fair use" .... I would infinitely rather make $.05 sbd per usage on a sample that gets used thousands of times via an exciting new platform than be another (albiet one of the few crypto-enabled) producer shilling sample packs.

MUCH FOOD. MUCH THOUGHT.

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myaceh (59) · 7 years ago

good music @rok-sivante, Thanks for share

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gabrielrf204 (36) · 7 years ago

Omg , i love this post bro , i'm from Venezuela and have the same ideas , because my dream is go to tomorrowland , i'm DJ and Producer but as my country is in crisis I need a lot of help , that's why I'm here in steemit as new to achieve social and economic support, get new friendships, share information and others, I follow you and vote.

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aneukmit (36) · 7 years ago (edited)

Great knowledge and talent are in your position @rok-sivante. I do not understand the rules of a work by a musician, but little know the direction you intend. in my country, there is often a plagiarism on one's music without serious punishment. but to create something it must have a valuable value for a creator. I salute to see the talent you have. I always follow your post to get the latest information. thank you for sharing

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nairadaddy (65) · 7 years ago

Hey @rok-sivante,
These are some well-thought out details...Infact I would even call it a whitepaper. No Musepaper.

Music is life! Since I discovered Dsound, I have really been telling all my music-oriented friends about the platform. Just to help them get renumerated for their efforts.

This your idea is the next level sht. Producers and Artistes and fans could collaborate in a very easy way to create something beautiful and profitable for all involved.

As for sharing, I trust smartcontracts to make that happen. Matter of fact: why not name the platform: smartmusic or Soundlinkup or soundsteem or codio (co-audio).

Anyway, these are my 0.2 cents. Lolx.

The steem blockchain has given us all the opportunity to build great things. That's why I created @AIR-CLINIC as a medical doctor; to reach out and help people access quick, accessible, free, quality healthcare globally.

GO ROC IT!

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bilal9808 (61) · 7 years ago

Upvote plz..

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago (edited)

The #1 Thing To Do If You Want Upvotes (And Exactly What NOT To Earn Follwers And Respect)...

A Priceless Tip For Steemit Newbies Seeking Followers & Upvotes... (The #1 Thing To Do And NOT Do)

you're lucky this wasn't a spam comment, as I was ready to flag this.

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bilal9808 (61) · 7 years ago

I am sorry dude, thanks for advice, should i delete this comment???

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

Your choice.

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bilal9808 (61) · 7 years ago

I am unable to do so, comments with reply are unable to delete sir

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teukurahmatakbar (46) · 7 years ago

Apakabar @rok-sivante. Moving in the realm of music actually has a promising income. Another with the world of film. You must know how the development of music in Indonesia itself, there is very interested in music from the young. for the music recording artist we are still far behind with the rest of the world. but we in Indonesia certainly continue to learn to advance the field. Regarding the licensing as well as the exact tax is a serious issue for every business world of music. It's just government policy that must be able to understand and maintain someone's copyright to improve the quality.

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greenrun (66) · 7 years ago

This collaboration would open up more doors for many artists out there with no AGT opportunity or X-Factor. There are a lot of budding artists out there who cannot afford studio fees and producers looking for fresh talents or just artists to try out their new beats, etc. That seems like a problem that could be solved by some lines of codes on the blockchain.

PS: I always like the way you reply comment spammers. Thanks a lot.

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stevelivingston (64) · 7 years ago (edited)

I'm guessing you're familiar with Imogen Heap's initiative that's along these lines called Mycelia for Music - if not, here's the link: http://myceliaformusic.org/

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nnajmull (56) · 7 years ago

This a great music one..I appreciate your every post.
Carry ou your activity .
And focus your creativity in steemit.
Thanks for sharing..

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antisocialworker (49) · 7 years ago

One of the reasons I came to Steemit was to see if there was a community of musicians and artist to build something like this. I feel this is the best platform to support this idea. A few wrinkles that need to be ironed out... how would this work for musicians that have published work with companies like ASCAP and BMI. It would be nice if we could set how the percentage of the earnings are split. There's a lot of areas that could be covered like finding vocals, singers, MC's, music licensing for film, tv, video games, sound design and sample libraries. Skys the limit. I would love to know if Steemit can currently support an idea like this now or if the platform needs to be more mature before running a project of this magnitude smoothly.
Thanks for sharing and sparking this conversation.

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fourfourfun (55) · 7 years ago

I’ve started to feel a bit 50/50 about monetising mixes on dSound. Essentially, when you make a mix for profit, you’re licensing tracks from artists, labels, and everyone is part of the remuneration chain. On dSound, when you put a mix up, you’re essentially cutting the artists and labels out of the picture but still taking a cut. You’ve obviously come to this conclusion when thinking about remixes as it is pretty much the same thing.

I’ve seen other platforms tackle their licensing woes. On Musicoin, you can negotiate a cut with the relevant artists and have a contractual split built into your upload, documented on the blockchain. Each artist gets a cut.

This also applies to mixes, their caveat is that the individual music must exist on there on its own first. That limits your resources somewhat. This does go some way towards the solution you are speaking about.

Licensing is definitely going to be the big challenge of dSound and dLive, as there is pretty much no way to enforce a dispute at the moment bar someone coming in with more flagging power than whoever has uploaded. Even then, that’s just a visibility takedown.

Also, these things need more than a seven day earnings window. Music is there to mature like a fine wine. If you go onto my Musicoin tracks, you listen, I get a coin, doesn’t matter that it was uploaded two months ago.

As such, Steem has some stiff competition from the dedicated music blockchains that exist. I’m not sure whether this can be solved by forking but it feels like it requires fundamental changes to the mechanics to Steem as it is right now.

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suat37 (36) · 7 years ago

That's amazing! 🎶🎶🎶

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bernardmccarthy (28) · 7 years ago

The possibilities with music and collaborating are endless! Now people who would have never had an opportunity to get there music out there can, and artists can work with people from all over the world with ease!

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steemitstats (47) · 7 years ago

@rok-sivante, I like your contribution to open source project, so I upvote to support you.

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safrijals (64) · 7 years ago

Good jop

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zamzamiali (56) · 7 years ago

Incredibly, your pays are very expensive in dSound. I am a connoisseur and music lover, but I can not and do not have the skills to create something nice to be enjoyed by many people. Success is always for you @rok-sivante. Best Regards

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scalerman (46) · 7 years ago

Its an interesting idea..but I don't get why you'd really want to remix other peoples tracks in the first place. If your gonna make music, make music.
-Old school Music Dinosaur

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

I’m a producer. Not a singer/rapper.

Making just instrumentals is kind of boring. Collaborating with other artists is difficult, networking, negotiating, finding someone with the right voice for a track, writing lyrics, recording, etc.

Remixes = easy. And fun.

And as a DJ, I can safely say great remixes ROCK. It’s always cool to hear a fresh version of a loved song, hearing a new take.

And from the artist side, someone who’s made a song that hasn’t had alot of success opens themselves up to new possibilities with remixes.

Maybe an original track is just okay. however, a great remix of the same track could gain a lot more traction and bring attention to the artist that never would’ve come with the original track.

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scalerman (46) · 7 years ago

Thanks on the reply @rok-sivante. All good points. Ok..I get it now :)

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buckydurddle (70) · 7 years ago

Hey @rok-sivante. Since I became involved with @utopian-io about a month ago I have felt that there could be a similar model put in place for music. Here are some of my initial thoughts:

A utopian-like music program, let's call it "Stems" for now.

Qualified Musicians can create projects in which they can request specific musical bits and pieces from the Stems community, such as a samba rhythm in 119BPM 85 bars in length, vocal part using this text and this melody, an acoustic guitar part in the style of "Choice" these chords 102BPM.... you get the idea.

Stems community musicians could then submit their contributions based on what is requested by the project owner.

Project owner could then 'approve' the parts he or she would like to use. These parts are then upvoted by the @stems account at a relatively high rate.

All other contributions are reviewed by stems-mods and if they are deemed 'acceptable' based on specific rubrics then they too are upvoted by the @stems account, but at a lower rate. These contributions are then available for any future musician to use as part of new pieces of music. When contributions are made the tags used will aid in the searching. For example, stems, instrument, tempo, key, style Musicians looking for a specific stem can search for what they need.

These are just some ideas bouncing around in my head. But I would be VERY interested in organizing something like this to roll out to our community. I have been involved in dozens of collaborations here on Steemit and I know the power of community in the music-making process.

Lots on possibilities. Let me know if you want to chat further about this?
Cheers,
buckydurddle

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