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That's what brought me to this platform, the idea that the community itself would be motivated to reward valuable contributions and good citizenship. After all, this is how the business community works. You can't get a job with a huge salary without first proving that you can add real value to the enterprise.

When I wrote my first post the other day, I decided to share something from a TED talk that I thought might be interesting. But then I decided to go further and explain why the speaker's call for action (making machine learning algorithms more transparent and open to audit/inspection) was actually more complicated than it sounds at first blush. It was a challenge trying to explain the internals of an ML algorithm to those new to them. I wanted to avoid complex formulas and code that might scare people off. It took me hours writing that thing. But it was worth it. Someone commented afterward, and it was clear that he was a bit inspired by the piece.

Writing original content is hard work. But the rewards can't be beat.

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

A fine testiment to the attitudes that enrich this community... :-)

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

A fine testiment to the attitudes that enrich this community... :-)

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pangoli (69) · 7 years ago

Very timely, this one... I've been on steemit for just about a month now. at first, I thought it would be easy to come in here, post articles and get paid. I just recently found out steemit doesn't work that way. And I'm glad though.. Because this would make it really hard for greedy folks out there to come in and deteriorate the integrity of the system. The whole thing seem to be well planned.
So I made a decision. I shifted my mindset to contributing to the growth of the community rather that what I stand to gain. And though the rewards aren't here yet, im so sure they'll come naturally at their own time, and it would feel even more rewarding!

Great post @rok-sivante
How long have you been on steemit? 😃

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

Excellent! Your approach is indeed a testament to what makes Steemit great. 🙏

I got in during the first month, so about 16 months now - though was fairly inactive for the middle half.

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zul88 (53) · 7 years ago

posting is very good @rok-sivante.
Thankyou for sharing!

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ecurrency (37) · 7 years ago

I like reading your post @rok-sivante, keep it up!

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fates (53) · 7 years ago

I posted about something similar recently, I think that theres a mentality that people deserve upvotes and comments ,ect because they took a few minutes out their day to say something..HOWEVER there are times that I read essay type posts and after all that , I upvote and its worth an amount so little it doesnt change the value of the post. I hope the people with more power also have the time to read the posts of very young steemians..to ensure that they are encouraged enough to keep pushing and working hard for their posts to have value.

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

For sure, there are challenges here. It’s an evolving system, far from perfect, and sometimes luck and randomness does play into outcomes of rewards. Nonetheless, we march on - and there is surely opportunity for those who step up in addressing such problems and present potential solutions...

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fates (53) · 7 years ago

You are correct, its no good just to bitch and moan about it, mostlg the only thing I can think of is to divide and conquer in the sense that , if there was one type of thing people had to choose that would always be part of their steemit profile for eg. Music then when posting anything people with the same tag will by default see that first and tbus making sub communities with the communities that already exist.. or even like profiles that are the same age type of thing so newbies learn together and support eachother. Just throwing it out there, I know the systems not perfect and nor will any suggestion be.

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hitmeasap (71) · 7 years ago

This was a great read, thank you very much for sharing this. I've recently started to write an article about the "quality" of articles and I'll make sure to link back to this one, as I believe it fits perfectly.

Service, or quality contributions which is what you call it in this article, is and will always be hard to determine for authors. Some might say that they contribute tons of high quality meanwhile others don't see that as clearly. - Quality is determined by each individual. Some will say that high quality is a meme and others a very long, in-depth article about a certain subject. - That is also one of the reasons for some articles to reap more rewards than others.

Never think about who or if others will see your contributions as high quality. Write your articles because you want to write them. Others will reward you for your hard work, as long as they see that you are trying to give and not take.

"Follow me and I'll follow you"

Is definitely not a good approach on Steemit. Neither is: "Upvote for upvote"-kind of deals. - That is an act of greed and selfishness.

That is an act of a taker and Steemit wants and needs givers. - Givers will be rewarded more than takers. - As soon as everyone understand this, Steemit will flourish!

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

Write your articles because you want to write them.

YEP.

Please do post back the link when complete... ;-)

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hitmeasap (71) · 7 years ago

Sure! Here you go:
Expect Nothing And Publish What YOU Want. That's How QUALITY Posts Are Made.

I also linked to this article as I definitely think this is worth reading for everyone. I think it's great to see several established Steemians publishing their thoughts and perspective on things like this and I think information like this are important for the newcomers.

Thank you once again!

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justafrood (30) · 7 years ago

Beginning with Service is powerful. Humans seek community, and our collective effort is what makes us powerful. Coming to the table with your skills and powers to share is a way to build community. There are lots of people looking to make a quick buck though. I wrote about some of this in my post "Mining the Miners" if anyone wants to read it, based on my experiences touring Colorado this summer.

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rizasukma (63) · 7 years ago

Great post. Thank for sharing @rok-sivante

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cryptostache (60) · 7 years ago

Oh the needy spammers! They do make it really hard for people who DO contribute quality content to be seen too. I have struggled so damn hard with getting views because even though I write original content I don't have a ton of steem power and that seems to be the difference of why some do better than others even though they stole their content or it's paper thin.

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

I wouldn’t necessarily agree that the spammers make it harder for contributors of quality content - cuz the lack of substance is apparent and they’ll just get brushed aside, whereas those putting in some real effort will get noticed more with the contrast. For example: myself taking the time to reply to this comment and checking out your profile, whereas I just skip the spammers...

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cryptostache (60) · 7 years ago

haha, well good point, but I feel that only happens to a certain degree. For the very obvious spammers yes you are right, but for the ones that are just posting nothing of substance over and over again. What about them? No real thought, just a cat meme... lol

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harshallele (58) · 7 years ago

I think spam happens because at its core, Steemit is marketed as a "facebook with money", and not as "Content Creation platform with monetization built-in". And that's what it is, a content creation platform.

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

I’m not really sure if it’s being marketed as anything in particular, or that’s just a type of perspective some have interpreted and spread.

Either way, it creates the necessity for more work put in to clarify the cultural codes for this site and educate newbies better on how to appropriately proceed...

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ericb (39) · 7 years ago

Thanks, love your writing, appreciate your advice for newbies like me

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

Your welcome. 🙏

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bcrafts (55) · 7 years ago

Why have you been since all this days ??

I could have read your posts when I just joined steemit

All are well thought out and have given me lots of ideas on how to go about in steemit

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

Haha.

Make sure to check these out for some golden tips:

The Dirty Dozen: My Top 12 Most HIGHLY Recommended Posts For Steemit Noobs To Accelerate Your Success...

;-)

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bcrafts (55) · 7 years ago

I have read it

You had me wowed
I am astonished

You should be a Steemit Mentor

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ewuoso (63) · 7 years ago

If everybody will think of the positive things he or she can contribute then the platform will be great.

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randystiefer (59) · 7 years ago

Another great post.

Personal Example: Yesterday I shared a link to a tool that made evaluating upvote bots simple with another user. That user dropped 8SBD of upvotes on me yesterday. I was just being helpful with no expectation of personal enrichment. When you do that the money will take care of itself. It always has.

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

:-)

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fr3eze (68) · 7 years ago

This is absolutely true but I dont think those who keep doing the beggings will stop anytime soon. They have no better to contribute hence will be eliminated from the system eventually, this is how the system works too.

Good writing, you earned my follow!

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

Well, many may not stop, but at the least, perhaps a few may adjust course upon proper education such as this, and hopefully continue spreading the word to at least cut down some...

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shaikatkm (54) · 7 years ago

please upvote me please @rok-sivante

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rok-sivante (75) · 7 years ago

You’re joking, right???

Clearly you didn’t bother to actually read and understand THIS post.

Care to try again...?

Reference these as well:

The Beggar Parade Hits Steemit: Calling Bullshit On Impersonal Commenting Facades…

A Priceless Tip For Steemit Newbies Seeking Followers & Upvotes... (The #1 Thing To Do And NOT Do)

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