We are seeking some input from our members to help make the next release as amazing as possible!

shadowbot (61) in steemit • 7 years ago (edited)

We are asking all our members quickly comment below your feedback for few simple things.

What is your CPU speed and Ram?
What is your primary method of accessing steemit? Mobile phone, Tablet, chromebook, laptop, desktop, etc?
How fast is your Internet Connection?
How often are you on steem and creating content?
What is the best aspect of ShadowBot?
What would you change about ShadowBot?

Simply answering these 6 questions will allow us to know much more about our users and ensure we can grow the system even farther! The next phase of our system will begin to put more power in your hands! We want to ensure all our members are able to utilize all of our features!

For more information on ShadowBot:

Getting Started: https://steemit.com/steemit/@shadowbot/top-3-tips-to-earning-more-on-steem-and-shadowbot-pro-tips

Latest Post: https://steemit.com/steemit/@shadowbot/fvl-reduced-to-625-in-preparation-for-next-week-s-big-upgrade

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dune69 (64) · 7 years ago (edited)

Quadcore, 4gb ram
Desktop
150mb/s
Daily
Guaranteed votes
It seems to be working fine

I'm increase my SP as much as i can but achieving the 1250sp isn't easy and isn't cheap, over $4000 worth of SP for a new user. I can't have an opinion on the new upgrade until i've seen how it works but as long as its fair to everyone then i'm ok with that

shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

We reduced the FVL to 625 and added in some grace features don't worry! https://steemit.com/steemit/@shadowbot/fvl-reduced-to-625-in-preparation-for-next-week-s-big-upgrade

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dune69 (64) · 7 years ago

Thanks for the update

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shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

Thank you for being such a great steemian and caster! We wouldn't be here without people like you! Keep on steemin it up!

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aghunter (61) · 7 years ago (edited)

No idea
Ipad and microsoft surface pro 4
25 MPS
Daily
Sharing upvotes with other content creators that are weighted by post quality and supporting smaller accounts
Greater clarity over how Shadow Rank is calculated, plus how pool priority works. What is shadow Queue etc. I allowed shadowbot to vote for me for most of last week but my voting efficiency is only 28% What do all these terms mean and how are they calculated.

amjad11 (53) · 7 years ago

I have purchased steem power and want to work as shadow caster , signup 3 month ago , but not much benifit from shadowbot what i do now to up my shadow rank .. Thanks @shadowbot.

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shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

If you are under the FVL the best thing you can do is begin getting all your rewards into your SP. The goal of our system is to reward users who reinvest in their accounts and power up. We have made a pledge that we will not harm any good steemian and promise to work with everyone who works with the rest of the community to ensure no voice is unheard and that we do the right thing for all!

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dexter-k (67) · 7 years ago

2.7Ghz i7 and 16gig ram
75% Laptop and 25% iphone 5S
50mbps Fibre
I try to make a post at least once a day, but I'm on Steemit every day.
The best aspect of shadowbot is that it tries its best to honestly be fair to everyone. I think the system works quite well at the moment to be honest.
Honestly, if I were to change one thing it would be to have control over my voting power. I know that this could easily be abused and destroy the whole system so my suggestion would be a compromise. Say if you want to lower your voting power, you would receive less votes or something like that. I only suggest it because my voting power gets absolutely destroyed by Shadowcasting, I'm lucky if I average 55% these days. It's still well worth it for me to be part of Shadowbot though so I'm not complaining :)

Keep up the good work!

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shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

Our next release is working to offer a huge amount of control that currently is not available to casters. As we expand into Elysian Fields we will be able to expand more power and control to our members! Thank you for being part of this community it is great steemians like you who make all this possible!

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dexter-k (67) · 7 years ago

Awesome, can’t wait to see what you have in store :) thanks for the compliment as well, I really love steemit and I think that shadowbot is doing a great thing for the minnows here!

thelifestyler (52) · 7 years ago

1 1G RAM
2 Mobile phone
3 3Mbps
4 Daily
5 The Voting Spacing and economic rewards
6 I would require more power up necessary for shadowing up

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shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

Fair, to 6 we are working very hard to ensure this update is not going to stop the good steemians from earning. This is why we constantly ask our members to provide us with both good and back feedback. If we don't know what we are doing right and wrong we can't make things better!

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monjan (53) · 7 years ago

4gb ram, laptop,1mbps , always,trying not to be biast is wht i love about shadowbot.
But i really hate the fact you don't stick the rules you create for long , you are always changing.for instance i don't understand why my vote was reduced from 2.9% to 1.5% without me knowing whats going on , yet my shadow rank is still 34 , i mean thats not being fare .

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shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

In order to reduce the FVL that leads to a reduction to the calculation of voting weight. However, more users are now fractionally voting which means they will vote more of the pool and in turn lead to more over all vote distributions. We truly do try to stick with our rules, but we are more inline with the mission, and adapting, trying new things, and making changes as we determine things are just not perfect yet is the process. We appreciate you so much for all the input and helping us get to that ideal spot we are seeking! Every update we are learning more about how to create a fairer system for all and we always ensure that if something is not fair to give back boosts. We even go as far as manually upvoting posts/comments from our members who are not getting enough while we work on ensuring they do! Our mission and pledge to all is to ensure all voices are heard and everyone that works hard gets a fair amount of earnings!

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monjan (53) · 7 years ago

It,s painful to see something i hv been working hard for be taken out just like that, even if its a fare distribution it means my 7 weeks of hard work is gone with the wind .i really don't understand my why i should be affected by the fare distribution weus i earned my position farely.

shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

You are not understanding the math, if 100 people up vote your post at 1% it is the same as 50 people up voting your post at 2%, "fair distribution" seeks to ensure you get the earnings you should. We promise we will never make huge changes to our system that would ever negatively effect our great casters like you!

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monjan (53) · 7 years ago

Thank you it's actually more clear to me now , i agree the math was the problem i understand much better now.

shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

It is a little confusing we understand but trust us there is a method to the madness! We promise our mission is to always ensure everyone is heard and earns!

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takowi (61) · 7 years ago

i7-3770k @ 3.5 Ghz, 8 Gb DDR3.
Desktop and sometimes mobile phone.
I like hard working numbers: roughly 1.2 MB/s in Download from Steam.
Online through the day, when i have time, posting a meme once per day, commenting on stuff from time to time.
That it's profitable for red fish.
Refine that delegated SP stuff, SB should only use the effective sp, not the total SP. Only counting half of the delegated SP to a SB user for the shadowrank is a good way.

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shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

Yes this is not how we designed the system and is rather an unfortunate bug that we are fixing ASAP! If a user delegates away their SP it should not be counted toward their total SP. Our team is working to ensure that is fixed ASAP! Thank you so much for you input great steemians and casters like yourself are what make all this possible!

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rantar (58) · 7 years ago

2.3ghz i7 w/ 16gigs Ram
Laptop
In theory I have 40 mbps, but in reality it is more like 25
I comment daily and write maybe 4-5 posts per week.
The shared communal support of each other
It seems like Shadowbot's calculations seem to ignore delegated SP at least when somebody delegates their SP away from their Shadowbot connected account. I'd like Shadowbot to take into consideration actual SP after delegations. I've had a couple of people who are above the FVL, but have delegated a good portion of their power away so they aren't helping fellow Shadowboters as much as they could be, but still getting the benefits of their high pre-delegation SP.

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shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

100% Agree couldn't agree more! This was an oversight our team never considered and (stupidly) assumed the SP returned by our calculations would remove any SP they were delegating. This is in our critical fixes and will be updated ASAP! Thank you for helping us make the system better we couldn't do it with out you!

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deadzy (60) · 7 years ago

Intel I7 : 2.30 GHz 4Go Ram
Mobile and laptop
5.7 Mbit/s
I go every day on steem, and I post between one and three times a week.
The best aspect of shadowbot in my opinion is to be able to have a minimum reward for the content you create.
What I would change:
The fact of having too much upvote for a certain amount of reward.
I saw one person with 1xxx upvotes for $20 (almost all the rewards came from shadowbot)
This raises two problems.
Have lots of small votes instead than a few 100% votes that would be more "natural".
And the people who post one article per day, who are upvoting only by shadowbot, and who have xx$ reward per article.

Even if these people offer a great SP to the shadowbot voting pool, I think it should be slowed down in this abuse.

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shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

Thank you for being part of this great system! 6) we are gathering more data as we grow and looking constantly to expand the voting distribution to be as fair as possible. Our goal is that every user earns, the big issue is balancing those with the big SP who contribute a huge portion of the earnings to everyone else with still rewarding the little guy who simply can't afford the big SP but makes good content. This is why we balance both SP and Shadow Rank and we will continue to make adjustements as needed. If we see we need to we will raise the limit of 25 Shadow Rank to where we feel it makes sense if the event arises. Remember we are "learning and earning together" this is a system for us all and we all have say in how it lands up being! No voice is too small to not matter to @shadowbot!

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deadzy (60) · 7 years ago

Thank you for your answer, and long life to shadowbot:)

lost108 (66) · 7 years ago

Here are my stats:

Intel(R) i3-7100 CPU @ 3.90GHz, 3900 Mhz Core(s) and my RAM is 8 GB
Desktop
Download 14.5 Mbps / Upload 1 Mbps
Most of my time, I post twice per day and I read a lot articles on Steemit
The best thing is that we are delivering the rewards in a proper way, we don't upvote ourselves and we boost motivation for new users to not leave the platform.
In order to make SB more successful, I will limit entering Steemit accounts on SB to one Steemit account per user, this way the reward wont get ripped and we will have a quality casters.

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shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

Thank you for being such a great Caster and Steemian! We agree 100% with 6 and then have 100% disagreement with it. In our next few releases it should become clear why and how we will address this all. To your real point, the reason for this big upgrade before the big new release is to begin to punish those who create many "fake" accounts and attempt to earn abusing the system!

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lost108 (66) · 7 years ago

It's good to hear that, not that you just gonna do a lot of good for SB casters but you will help Steemit platform from getting overloaded with fake accounts that can hurt our community, I am looking forward to your next upgrade, keep up the good work.

shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

To your point, we if you make 3 accounts, one that is an amazing food blog, another that tells us all about the surf conditions in the hawaiian beach house you happen to live in and a third about teaching people surfing and kiteboarding by all means, those all provide VALUE and are separate and make sense to be different accounts. We are only looking to stop SPAM, SCAMS and ABUSERS! You could have 1 account and be terrible and an abuser and we don't want you on board with us, just like you could have 10 accounts all that are amazing and deserve love. Plus how could we ever figure out who owns which account in real life? IT is impossible trust us! That is not the route we opt for! We want to begin applying the same tactics we employ for spam filtering on email to steem and improve our systems by rewarding the good and weeding out the bad!

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coldproject (49) · 7 years ago

1.6 i5 8GB RAM

Mac Book Air

100MBS fibre

Content creation about twice per week

As I am new on Shadowbot and do not understand everything yet the Auto Follow Feature.

Currently nothing as I am new to the Platform.

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shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

Glad to have you on board! Feel free to read through our faq, the steem faq, the steem white paper and all our past posts to get a good understanding of the system. Be sure to give us all your feedback both good and bad as that is how we expand this system properly!

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steemflow (72) · 7 years ago

Hi @shadowbot i just noticed that the voting percentage on my post is lowered 1.9 from last week of 2.9. Is there any change on shadowbot?
Even my shadow voting on other post is about 3.1% or 4.8% whwy there is so much difference?

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shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

As the FVL is lowered the voting distribution is widened which also lowers slightly the amount of voting power each person will receive. For example (these are not accurate numbers just for examples that are easy to understand): Say at 1,000 FVL you get 10%, at 500 you might only get 8% from each person, but remember more users are able to reach your post since they are fractionally voting now. So although a user may only get 8% instead of 10% with many more casters up voting their post (thanks to fractional voting vs 100% voting) you may get say 100 8% votes vs 40 10% votes. I would rather get 800% total vs 40% total and have each individual vote be 8% vs 10% but get 4x more. That is the idea of our voting distribution. This is all based on math and long term we all should see the benefits of this upgrade!

Thank you so much for being part of this great system and please continue to provide us with feedback both good and bad so we can continue to make the adjustments needed to create the greatest bot on steem!

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steemflow (72) · 7 years ago

Its glad that i am part of shadow bot....But why my upvote on other are higher as compaired to what i am getting? If i am casting at 3.1% to a user with lower rank....i am getting only 1.9 % in return. Y there is so much difference? @shadowbot

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shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

Your Voting Weight is decided by your Pool Priority which is decided using this calculation explained in this post: https://steemit.com/steemit/@shadowbot/voting-allocations-have-been-upgraded-critical-update

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youareyourowngod (58) · 7 years ago (edited)

4gb ram, 1.6 ghz intel core
laptop (2010 oldskool macbook air)
100mbps
Depends - I try posting daily usually for a week or two. Then if I need a break or feel my content is suffering take it down to 2/3 times per week.
The whole philosophy is awesome, but you have to hand it to the hard work of the developer's. Massive respect.
SB is killing it currently. 1250sp for the FVL would have been my only grudge but I'm glad to see you have reconsidered and dropped it giving the SB community time to catch up and reinvest. If you plan to announce a raise of the minimum in the future it would be better to know much further in advance.

(Suggestions)

*It could be a good idea to slowly raise the FVL bi-weekly by 20sp or something? This will also encourage consistent powering up and help against abuse.

**Maybe a shadowbot selective feature that will automatically power up a certain amount of your steem each week?

*** Each day a randomly selected post could receive double/triple their normal payout as a way to encourage consistent posting and earnings.

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shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

Love the suggestions they are great ideas and things we are considering implementing the big issue with ** is that requires access to the active key which currently for security reasons we refuse to hold. This ensures your accounts funds are always secure and ShadowBot can not be held liable for any loss of a user's funds.

Other than that we love the ideas and we are actively working on ShadowBook having a method to store your keys locally which will then open up the ability to securely do these types of things. We are very focused on security and refuse to roll anything out that could compromise any user's funds until we are certain it is working perfectly!

Thanks again for the feedback we read every last comment and take everything our users say to heart with every decision we make!

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youareyourowngod (58) · 7 years ago

Thanks again for the feedback we read every last comment and take everything our users say to heart with every decision we make!

That's why we love SB. Seriously impressed with the FVL drop adjustment - just goes to show how much the community voice's are a part of this project!

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shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

This should hopefully explain why we even have to have a FVL to start with: https://steemit.com/steemit/@shadowbot/why-we-have-the-fvl-and-why-it-is-a-fair-system

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caab (65) · 7 years ago

Best aspect for me is the automation.

One improvement (I think this has been changing) is that votes should happen on newest post possible. Help get more exposure for shadowbot users.

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shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

Our next release is going to open up a huge amount of control to you to decide where the votes you receive from Casters. We don't want to give too much away but we believe you will be very pleased with where we are moving!

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peakreal1 (61) · 7 years ago

Thanks so much for this update and questionnaire set to improve the speed of accessing steemit.

Ram is 1g RAM
I often use mobile phone
My network connection is extremely low
very active and like to be online at least 16hours daily.
I don't use to shadowbot
I don't know what shadowbot is

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shadowbot (61) · 7 years ago

Take a look through our posts and website and thank you so much for providing us feedback even not being a member (yet)!

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acdevan (57) · 7 years ago

What is your CPU speed and Ram?

2.7 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3

What is your primary method of accessing steemit? Mobile phone, Tablet, chromebook, laptop, desktop, etc?

Primary - MBP. Secondary - iPhone6. Tertiary - iPad

How fast is your Internet Connection?

LAN - 1Gbps, WIFI - 100 Mbps

How often are you on steem and creating content?

Currently 4 hours / day in total

What is the best aspect of ShadowBot?

I'm a new subscriber. Too early to tell.

What would you change about ShadowBot?

New user. No comments yet.

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dildil7401 (30) · 7 years ago

4 gb laptop

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leathertinker (47) · 7 years ago

2.7 GHz with 12 GB RAM
95% desktop iMac ( sooo much easier for formatting) and 5% mobile phone
40 MPS
I am trying to post once a day, but sometimes skip the weekends.
I'm pretty new to the whole "bot" concept, I still am trying to completely grasp what's going on. I do like that smaller accounts are included, us newbies have a very large learning curve to tackle.
I would really like it if the notifications, in the top right corner, would go away once I view them. I know this is more of a UI issue and not necessarily how SB functions - but for me, those little red numbers drive me batty. :)

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