Google is not an image source

steevc (73) in steemit • 6 years ago (edited)

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6 years ago by steevc (73)

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slobberchops (74) · 6 years ago

This was something I was very conscious about when writing my 'Kwiksave Chronicles' months ago now. There's lots of great images about but when you apply this filter (the one I use), there's nowhere near as many,

I think this filter speaks for itself. You can use them, but always put a source link in too.

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trevor.george (67) · 6 years ago

I think this is a tricky area. It's not so black and white.

There are those on the platform who view the platform as a place for content creators, and those who view it as a place to earn revenue however you can.

No-one owns Steemit, no-one controls it, no-one holds the vision of its purpose and intent. It is whatever people on it want it to be at any given time.

We could go with the majority view - but the majority view is - to hell with plagiarism, show me the money! We cold go with being purist where every image is used correctly and correctly attributed.

But the number of people willing to put in that sort of effort for the returns we are currently seeing is very few.

So we are in a bit of a bind - we want to take the high road, but the high road won't get us where we want to go in the time-frame we want to get there. The low road will get us there, but we'll be covered in muck and stink upon arrival.

Perhaps there is a hybrid option that is workable (I don't know) where content that is original is in one part of Steemit and valued more and content that is in another part of Steemit is known re-hashed stuff which returns much less to the authors.

So people can chose where they want to go and what they want to see.

And perhaps a different reward pool for each as well.....

Just thinking out loud....

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steevc (73) · 6 years ago

There are no rules on Steemit, but that doesn't stop people taking legal action for things like copyright infringement. I know Steemit Inc have to take down some posts, but they may be still visible on the other sites. If you run a web site then you are subject to local laws even if the blockchain cannot be censored. There are lots of people just trying to make money, but one reason we have flags is to deal with behaviour we don't find acceptable. That is our personal choice.

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the-bitcoin-dood (63) · 6 years ago

Morguefile.com is a great site for free stock photography. That's usually my go to for stock images now. Almost everyone has a smartphone now too. Just take images of everything and rename them coffee, cat, kitten, sky, clouds, etc. Then when you need a basic stock photo you'll have one of your own to share. There are multiple other sites that offer public domain, and free CC images for use in blogs and graphics. In this day and age there's really no reason to steal images.

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steevc (73) · 6 years ago

Even when people post their own images they should say something about them. I've seen some people posting random, low quality pics they take and then buying votes on them. They can expect to get flagged for that. It's up to the community to decide what deserves rewards.

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bozz (70) · 6 years ago

This is a really important thing for new users of Steemit to read. It is usually one of the first pieces of advice I give new users when they ask for help. I know when I first started I wasn't sure how to handle all of the copyright and image sourcing stuff. It took others showing me how to do it to get it right. Now I just try to use as many of my own pictures as possible and when I can't, I visit pixabay.

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silviabeneforti (72) · 6 years ago

As you know, I use just the pics that I took by myself, this is my choice here and also out of here. When I want to write something different, I use to create a funny image using canva.com, but sure, the few (really few) times I had to use an image from other sources (like a pic of an ancient paintings) I always used free images linking the right sources (for example, if you need to use an image on a page of wikipedia, you can read if you can use the image or not and also howw you can use it). My choice is to use just my pics for a simple reason: I earn something posting here, so I want to use just my materials. Sure, I can understand when someone needs to write something different and he/she can't have his/her own pics about that theme (for example if he/she want to talk about the planets or something about IT r others), but ehy, if he/she want just to post a photo of a cat writing how nice is that cat found on google, it's just a trash content. ;)

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steevc (73) · 6 years ago

I tend to use Wikipedia images as they are generally free to use.

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societyengineer (48) · 6 years ago

Some people even about to write internet as a source. I think they do not know meaning of source.

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onnovocks (49) · 6 years ago

Much depends on context. For example: If I want to demonstrate how many versions of the song "Caballo Viejo" exist (more than 200), it is perfectly legitimate to post a few YT samples that I did not create, so long as I use a link to the original video rather than copy it and re upload. The same is true when writing an article about past events, it's not possible to go back and create original images. Using a link to the original image is enough to credit the original poster since they allowed embedding in another website. This is a feature you can turn off should you not want to share images/videos in that way.

One of the issues is that Steemit is also touted as an alternative to YT and FB and one only has to look at FB to see why folks upload content that is not their own; on FB it's common place. I found a number of my original music videos copied from YT uploaded to other people's FB pages and there is little FB will do about it. This really sucks as I have to scour FB to find them and I'm out the views, likes and comments even if the thief's uploads are taken down, I won't get compensated while FB benefited from the traffic.

I don't have a problem with folks posting a link to one of my videos to another platform; after all, it drives traffic to my videos and I still get the views that increase my ranking. It's the copying and re uploading I have a problem with.

Greetings!

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steevc (73) · 6 years ago

When you embed a Youtube video it's still on their site and they still get the plays. They positively encourage embedding. Just because someone puts an image online does not mean you can use it unless they specifically allow that. I just think we have to be careful that Steemit doesn't get a bad reputation. Enforcing such copyright is really hard, but if you mess with the wrong people they can come down hard on you.

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onnovocks (49) · 6 years ago (edited)

Yeah, I brought that up when someone uploaded Hollywood movies. I stopped counting at 114 of them; that's a lot of potential lawsuits and Hollywood has the financial resources to make it stick. He has since stopped uploading as he was starting to rightfully receive flags for 100% plagiarism.

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chireerocks (72) · 6 years ago

@steevc, Yes, you've raised the correct points for sure and that is because, we cannot take the Random Photos just because they are visible while you search, just think it's just like using your bike because you've left your keys on the Bike.

So, always we have to use the pictures which are clearly mentioned as Free For Use or pictures which you purchased, otherwise as you said it can be an issue, and also we are not producing original content.

Wishing you an great day and stay blessed. 🙂

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harrisonmir (64) · 6 years ago

This is great to know, I wasn't aware of how this works actually. Any pictures I don't own are completely supplemental to original content that I am actually writing or have composed, so it's not done maliciously or abusively, but still. Very good to know for future reference.

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paparex (37) · 6 years ago

I highly doubt any of the copy/paste image spammer really care about what's right, and what's wrong, legal or illegal.
If they did, they would just apply filter to image and claim it's transformed work of art and be in the clear.

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neyda1975 (50) · 6 years ago

Tienes razón, hay que evitar la basura en steemit, si no entonces vamos a perder prestigio ante los ojos de la comunidad, pero considero que hay imágenes cuyo derecho de autor ha expirado y son material de dominio público. No veo porqué no se pueda utilizar este tipo de imágenes para enriqueser un buen artículo de algún steemniano.

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steevc (73) · 6 years ago

You can use out of copyright images, but that requires extra research to check if they are. The people I'm talking about don't know/care about copyright. We need to educate them

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neyda1975 (50) · 6 years ago

Gracias, lo tomaré en cuenta.

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stav (59) · 6 years ago

I should rethink my approach really. I always give credit but that isn't a get out of jail card.

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empress-eremmy (65) · 6 years ago

I used to do this, till a post like this reminded me it wasn't exactly right. I use primarily Pixabay from now

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