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Steemit about to drop out of Alexa top 1000
7 years ago by steevc (73)
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I saw the decline and wrote it on my post the other day.
It is all about the demand.
At first steem looks hard untill you are part of it and sweet.
Surprisingly still waiting for SMTs and all.
Keep on steemin'
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I think people come in just expecting to make money, but you have to earn it. Of course you can try and cheat the system, but that may not end well. I didn't make much for the first few months, but it was fun anyway
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You probably dont want to hear this, but after my initial excitement and euphoria Im starting to come down to earth with a bang.
Being on Steemit for a few weeks, the platform tugs at your morals and the temptation to go one way or another due to its 'open' way is judged by others and you really cant please everyone.
Should I upvote my own posts? Listen to some of the popular YouTube's and they say 'Yes', but dont upvote your own comments they say. Others disagree and call it greed, but is it really greed when your own upvote is worth $0.05?
Should I use a BOT to upvote my own article, hoping it will get into the 'Hot' section? It really doesnt get you any new followers, I have seen that. But it does move your SBD's back into the system to be paid out again in another 7 days. It also increases your reputation.
Reputation doesnt matter? SP matters, but people are likely to look at a (75) post than a (25) post.
Do you go with one crowd or another who have the same beliefs?
Is this why Steem is now in decline? It does seem to me that users who got in 'early' do have a massive advantage and new people have a huge mountain to climb. Maybe many new people stick around for a few weeks and then get out.
Im one to voice my opinion, so Im sorry if this is not what you want to hear. Its just how I feel about how Steemit is now. I dont feel this is a negative post, more a constructive one. I love the idea of this and it still intoxicates me, but the gloss is wearing thin.
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I have exactly same feelings as you. Imo there is no point in curating new posts when almost everyone is using bots now and trending is full of trash.
More bots > less curators > more trash posts > no readers.
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Not everyone buys votes, even if it means not trending. I ignore most of the top earners as they are not interesting to me. I support others who are. I have enough sp to at least give them a few cents and that's still better than nothing. Some of us believe in the potential of this platform and are not just after a quick buck.
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I think this is a long debate and whale wars stuff, but I just cant keep this in. Are these forks going to do something about it? There's so many things you can do, some are right, some are wrong, but it depends whos the judge.
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There are no rules, so you have to decide on what is right to you. You may get judged by others. It's all a big experiment
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Your points are valid. It can seem exclusive to me users. I'm not totally against new users getting rewards however they can, but the platform is supposed to be about good content and not just a money machine.
I think some good communities are forming around various topics. They make it fun to be here. People happily use other sites for no reward, so why wouldn't they do the same here? The issue may be that steemit is too small to form a critical mass.
There is supposed to be a proper community feature coming, as well as smoother signup. Those may help, but it's a case of whether the team can deliver.
You have to decide if steemit is worth your time. That is the most precious thing for many.
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I see many of the 'big' posters with figures over $100, and Im thinking wow..., who wouldnt? but it's just not real.
If you look at the top voter or 'voters' its one or many BOTS. This creates a false impression to a new user like myself. These people are just putting their SPD into BOTS to create an impression or get on the 'Trending' page. Is this wrong, is this right? I really dont know. What I do know is that is the way it is.
I see people on here, voting their own posts but ignoring your comments and they can do it 'because its available to them'. Is this right and they way it was intended? I dont want to say 'hey why are you doing that', I dont feel I have been on here long enough to throw my weight about.
Is this platform 'too open' for its own good?
If I can address some one of your points:
'People happily use other sites for no reward, so why wouldn't they do the same here? '
But its not the same, this is for good content, not FB posts of showing off your food or beer. I read matsskol's article about content, and that you should go for 300 words min. I try to do that, and it takes some effort.
Steve, I have seen the effort and time you put into Steemit; Would you really put all this effort in if this was Facebook and there was nothing to be gained? I know your one of the good guys here, nobody has given me more attention that yourself, but after investing quite a chunk of fiat into this Im now wondering if I have done the right thing.
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For me, it is about deciding why I want to be here.
I was looking for a blogging platform, I was interested in learning more about the blockchain and cryptocurrencies, I heard about steemit from a friend and I thought it was worth investigating.
I did a masters in new media and society so I'm quite interested in how people behave, how they form communities and relate to each other online - and how we all get thrown off track by the (apparent) rewards.
I was interested to find, as part of my studies, that humans are biologically programmed to take turns and collaborate - must be part of our survival mechanism - and that's one of the reasons that we get put out when someone 'cheats'. I'm not bothered about bots and self-voting and buying votes because in life generally there will always be people richer and sharper than me, so I don't engage with that.
If someone behaves poorly around me, generally by putting a me too comment on my post, contributing nothing to the discussion and voting for their own inane comment but not my post or anyone else in the discussion, then I will reply " can I just check what you've done here?" because to me that's a bit rude, like a drunk coming and sitting at your table uninvited and taking over the conversation.
Time is an issue and each of us needs to decide how we want to spend our time and is this worth it - to us. It has a lot in common with a small business, people always underestimate how long it is going to take them to breakeven and start earning a living (three years on average).
But I think the fun element is also important. Are you enjoying being here, writing, interacting with others, reading. How I feel about it changes and I'm looking forward to #steemcampuk in a week or so to discuss some of these things.
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@shanibeer, Im finding it quite hard to find people with the same interests as myself. I am following just 64, but only a handful of those share my interests and so get my attention. You have to really sift through all the mass of 'stuff' to find a blogger that has something to say. Im still looking for more.
Im getting back into Running now, or trying so Ill keep up my running stories. Im not done with Steemit, Im just in a down phase and I tend to be quite tenacious about things when they grip me.
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I probably wouldn't bother if there were no rewards, but then I'm not taking as much as I could. I think others have a lot more to gain and I want them to have that chance.
Having a totally open platform is an experiment in whether anarchy works. I know a lot of people here are into that. In theory the community should moderate, but if you have enough sp you can do what you like.
I'd like to see the trending pages excluding paid and self votes from counting,but I doubt this will happen.
I enjoy conversations like this one, so that helps keep me around. I'm making some nice money, but the current rate is not life-changing. If steem goes up again I may be able to treat myself again. Depends on finding convenient ways to withdraw it.
I play with social media for fun, but my time is limited. I liked the idea of steemit from the start and I'm glad I stuck with it. Note that I made cents in the early months.
BTW if you see what people pay for votes they may not make a huge profit. I hope the price recovers enough so you at least can get your money back.
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'I'd like to see the trending pages excluding paid and self votes from counting,but I doubt this will happen.'
Now that would be a great idea. Am I right in saying its the witnesses who dictate such choices? If so, it wont happen.
Thanks for clearing up that fact that this is in fact, anarchy. 'You can do what you want if you are powerful enough'. For some reason I'm thinking, 'The Great Dalmuti'.
'I hope the price recovers enough so you at least can get your money back.'
Im not saying Im out, just disillusioned. My expectations I guess are too high short term.
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What happens to the Steemit site depends on Steemit Inc. Witnesses decide on blockchain issues. Another site could use different algorithms. I've heard from someone who is actually working on feed filters
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This is very sad.
It seems like steemit is falling asleep.
Someone needs to let off some firecrackers to wake everyone up...
In the wonderful anarchical world of steem people will beat with me with big sticks for saying it but steem desparately needs leadership - in some form or other.
The two obvious places to look for that are steemit inc and the top 20 witnesses.
I am peering deep and hard but I cannot seeing anything coming over the horizon just yet...
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The price isn't helping, but I agree leadership is lacking. We at least need more updates from the team to maintain confidence. Not everyone will monitor the Github
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More updates would be a good start.
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Thanks for the info @steevc!
It's been so quiet lately on the platform, so I've just been taking the easy and enjoying the downtime! I'm sure the Steem price will be up again before we know it..
Looking forward to meeting you at SteemCamp :)
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Likewise. It's looking like that will be a cool event.
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Very sporting of us to give Dan a chance to catch up.
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I got about 3/4 of the way down the comments, reading a decent bit but scanning most of it and the one point I have yet to see brought up is the passwords.
To an average user coming from somewhere else I can tell you it's super frustrating.
I get that there's points of security to make the passwords so complex, but so complex that you couldn't even remember if you tried and or are forced to do things with it that compromise it. Example always having to cut and paste it, store it in a txt file, email it to yourself.
I had to make my first flag last night, didn't even have my post up 5 minutes was supposedly voted on by a bot; but no vote was there just the blanked out comment saying he did.
Another huge problem is feeling compelled to follow a bunch of people but not actually being able to sort through your feed in any way.
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I use Lastpass for my passwords. They are actually encryption keys and so have to be complex to be secure. Otherwise someone could steal your funds or pose as you.
There are tools appearing that can help with the feed. The Steem Plus extension has filters.
It takes time to build a following here, but you can see I get good engagement with my posts even if I don't make as much as others.
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My biggest problem is their's probably several thousand orphaned accounts on account of it, granted they should be more careful with their keys.
But to have to store them in such ways; outlook, text files and your clip board are some of the most exploited by intruders.
I've found extensions for other sites that will look for updates but was hoping to find something customizable.
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You really need a good password manager with encryption. I have hundreds of passwords to manage and this also helps avoid issues with entering them into fake sites.
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I think there is quite a lot of stinginess going on here and so people are not encouraged to advertise steem to others. That is why it is dropping.
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It's in our interest to have more people here. It will help to drive up the price and we all benefit. There may be more competitors for rewards, but that should drive up quality
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People won't migrate so long as they have to compete with scripters, bots, old heads, whales, plagerizers, dmaninia, and probably about at least a dozen others that hog all the traffic.
Honestly I care less about the money, but I'm posting stuff not getting any attention, and it's not just because I refuse to write a thesis that an every man couldn't relate to for every post.
Allot of people are simply grimy with their vote and many votes probably go to a picture that was either perfectly captured or just simply straight ripped off of someone elses Instagram.
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To be honest right now on steemit, I don't think it is about competition for rewards.
People are just voting themselves and their close friends alone, they are not spreading it to others.
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That's shortsighted. There could be much greater rewards later if it grows.
There are lots of good people here who care about making steemit better
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The fall in price is a responsible factor because myself i do get discouraged to post
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Bearish market has played a very negative role but in next 2 months, everything will be back on track.
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That may explain part of why it's been so damn slow around here lately... It will be very unfortunate to lose to top 1000 spot after gaining so much ground.
I think the current value is especially hard on people who have joined in the last two or three months, who have never experienced a 50 cent STEEM...
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Or even 6c Steem! The fact is that we can still make something. I know some people are trying to pay their bills with what they make here and it's tough for them. I hope the really good times are yet to come
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Thanks, I enjoy seeing this update. I think next growth area is going to be more of the central and s. american countries, mexico included. I also see an increase in S. Africa and Uganda happening soon. With continued w. African growth.
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I am always checking penguinpablo's daily stat reports and despite now reaching 900k accounts, the number of active users is not increasing and is somewhat staying at around~60k. Taking into consideration bid bots and trail votes, the number of active users may probably be even way less.
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I wonder if Busy.org has anything to do with it.
I know a lot of people are starting to use that interface.
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I looked at the stats for busy and other interfaces recently. They were growing, but I'm not sure it was enough to seriously affect steemit yet. That may well change
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Very nice words at the end of article. Hope that I'll become just little stronger minnow. :)
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I think you are right about the lower Steem price affecting it and overall crypto perception.
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@steevc I think it is good that things are quiet and STEEM is down in price a little. This gives us some more time to acquire more to Power UP at these lower levels...........
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I bought Steem account thru blocktrades because I didn't receive email approval from steemit. :)
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I'd pay to get certain people on board. Recruitment and retention are vital
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