My Experience with Promotion Bots

in steemit •  7 years ago 

Not long ago, I asked the Steemit community what I should do with my supply of SBD.

One of the options presented was to use the SBDs to buy help from bots. I was hesitant to try this approach due to the controversy surrounding bot use on Steemit.

However, I found that a plurality of my followers largely supported the use of bots to help get my posts greater exposure. And this community support is what ultimately prompted me to dive in and try.

Here's what I learned.

Promotion Bots are Easy to Hire

Ordinarily, my posts earn rewards of somewhere between $3 and $5. The top end of that being exceptionally rare.

When I posted my Trollhunters review, I used promotion bots for the very first time.

I looked up these bots on Steembottracker.com. The two promotion bots they recommend are Minnowbooster and Smartmarket.

I gave a single SBD to each promoter, and found the process to be quite seamless. Minnowbooster gives you the option of just sending the money from your Steemit wallet, while both promoters offer the option to send the money through Steemconnect (which gave me no trouble at all).

Promotion Bots are Fair Players

One of the first things that happened, after hiring the promoters, was an unexpected partial refund.

Smartsteem returned .604 SBD, saying that it had promoted the post as much as it could, but was unable to give me 1 SBD worth.

Minnowbooster also returned .001 SBD after they were done promoting my post.

These events were, in a word, unexpected. I had imagined that whatever money I threw at promoters was just gone forever, and they would do as they saw fit afterwards. That they actually stopped me from overpaying was a bit of an eye-opening experience---one that went a long way in convincing me of the honesty of their business model.

Promotion Bots are (Mostly) Effective

That first post, in the end, netted nearly $9 on Steemit. I had payed 1.295 SBD for promotion services.

After taking into account the curator's share and all other considerations, it's fair to say that I turned a profit from my experiment. Not only did I make my money back overall, but I also made back more than double the amount in SBDs alone.

The experience also furthered my goal of increasing my Steemit reputation score, as the additional VESTS make each post more of a reputation booster.

When I tried promotion services a second time (for my Muppets: Infinity War, Part 1 post, the situation worked out even better, with me netting nearly $12 on Steemit.

The third time, however, was not quite as successful. Muppets: Infinity War, Part 2 only netted about $4 on Steemit. And that might have had something to do with the amount of other people using promotion services, or with the falling price of Steem (we've been getting hammered down by the market lately). Or it could just be an outlier.

Conclusion

In any case, it would appear that more research is needed before I can declare promotion bots to be a true solution or not. Luckily, I have a goodly supply of SBDs to keep experimenting with, with the hopes that I might establish myself as a Steemit personality.

I want everyone on the platform to at least be aware of my journey toward publication, because I want to bring the platform along with me, and use my book writing career to bring more attention to Steemit and the crypto universe. If promotion bots (and even other bots) are needed to make that happen, then I need to at least entertain the idea of using them.

Let me know what you think in the comments.

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Try out @echowhale bot as an upvote bot

Promotion bots are of two types one are bid bots and other are bots like minnowbooster and If you are new then i,ll prefer minnowbooster because it is a bot who help and promote low level steemians and it is a profitable bot.
Bidbots are bit risky because there vote depend upon the bid. more bid they will recieve smaller they will vote.

wish you best of luck and keep using bidbot to promote your post it really helps alot

Another wonderful and interesting important topic for disscussing by @talanhorne sir...
Actualy I think that is very useful to all steemians...
That is my "Golden Rules" before using bots...
GOLDEN RULES

  1. Don't use a bot with Max Suggested Bid of 0 Steem / SBD. That bot has been maxed out on the current voting cycle and you cannot make any ROI.
  2. If you are going to spend a LOT then it is often wise to bid early in the voting cycle so that others can see and may not use it. Its also courteous so that you don't suddenly place a huge bid last minute and everyone else in that voting cycle gets much less.
  3. Steer clear of bots that have a min / max ROI of none/10%.
  4. Using voting bots does increase your reputation, and if you consistently spend a lot of money on up-votes your reputation will rise dramatically! That is worth bearing in mind when you see others with very high reputations who are posting less than great content.. they may not be as wonderful as you think!
    Wel done sir...
    Upvoted and resteemed...

Sir,I think smartmarket is best of all bot.

That would be informative article for how to use Bid bots and what's facilities indeed there.n Thanks @talanhorne.

For me promotion bots better for promote my post. It does important task.

Useful imformation again for steemians by @talanhorne sir...
This is my ideas about steem bots...I think we always check steem bot tracker before using bots..
Steembottracker makes is possible to use bots with the best chance of success. Whilst there is a lot of data presented on this page, let me show you what you need to pay attention to:

  1. VOTE VALUE:
    This is the maximum amount a bot can up-vote. Note that this figure is displayed in $USD by default which can be changed to other currencies such as $SBD .

  2. MIN / MAX BID
    This is the lowest amount a person can send to use a bot. For some reason it doesn't show the max bid, perhaps because most people don't set one.

  3. MIN / MAX ROI.**
    This is a super important! The first number shows you how much you are are able to lose at most. If it says none it means there is NO limit as to how much you can lose rather than that you cannot lose anything! The second number is the most you are allowed to gain.

  4. MIN / MAX AGE
    This is simply the amount of time that you can up-vote after you post. In most cases you have to wait at least 20 minutes before you can use a bot, and a post shouldn't be older than 3.5 days.

  5. TOTAL BIDS
    This shows how many people have placed a bid on the current round of voting. It is a useful figure, but actually not necessary to look at as the next option is far better to check.

  6. MAX SUGGESTED BID**
    This is also a super important field to look at! If you send more than this max suggested bid you will surely lose out. In fact you should ideally bid around 20% less or more than the suggested bid to be confidant of not losing out.

  7. LAST VOTE / NEXT VOTE
    This is the amount of time until the vote happens. If you want to play it safe it is a good idea to wait until the last minutes to place a vote since you stand more chance of getting good rewards. This is because the voting is shared with everyone who bids on each round, so if you can see a good ROI when you make the bid in the final minutes it is less likely too many others will manage to place a vote as well.
    Wel done and perfect work sir...
    Happy steeming...

Congratulations @talanhorne
Now you are in the MinnowsPower Loyalty Member List...!!!

Exceptional experience well shared to the community...!!!

100% Upvoted by @MinnowsPower

bidbots sometimes bring losses and sometimes not, the idea of making our publication seen by other users and get additional votes is incredible to say this, but if your publication does not have more than 5 sbd in profits no one else votes, because everyone is looking to have something of the reward when the publication is greater than $ 20.

I never used bid bots and don't have any idea use them. They probably doing wrong task to community. Your post useful one.

Informative post. Well

Sometimes bots get you promit you can't even think.of but some time they also could give you loses, as far as my experience concerns i got loss when ever i use bots!

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Well yes as because you can see what votes they can give you via minnowbooster.net and smartsteem.com(you can get whitelisted so that you can get additional facilities of upvotes))

Sometimes they are profitable weel most of the time but sometimes they are not.

Well they are profitable and uses in the case of RS to increase.

I personally don’t use bots. However I recomend using @tipu between 3:30pm-6:30pm eastern time. That’s when he is working and he upvotes your post more that 200%. Other than that I already gave you info about @tipu that I will use soon as well. Good luck 🍀 to you @talanhorne!

Thank you so much! I went throughly over your info and I honestly think you are the best and most profitable bot of all out there. Keep up the great work. One of my friends uses you and that’s how I found about you. I will be delegating my SBD’s to you soon.

Cool, thank you :) You can delegate STEEM POWER to @tipU or send STEEM / SBD with memo: invest :)

Thank you for your generous upvote. My friend, @milano1113, keeps recommending you, and I am glad to finally meet.

Thanks for mentioning @tipU :) with more STEEM POWER delegated I hope that @tipU will work longer each day. And he can also send tips like this: tip! 1 :)

Very informative post & good guidance to use bots in proper manner.

I'm very happy for you, it's good that you got in such a time when the rate was stable, now it unfortunately decreases. And it will affect payments. Better wait for the increase. Thanks for the information.

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Luckily, I have a goodly supply of SBDs to keep experimenting with, with the hopes that I might establish myself as a Steemit personality.
Please keep us updating about these bots as they will help minnows like us a lot. This post was quite informative for me. All the bots don't pay you back equally, so after some experiments you can tell us which bot should we prefer.

Glad that you gave it a shot.
You need the bots for better exposure of your content

I completely agree with you sir. ☺
Yeah, more research is needed before declare of promotion Bots.
At this time am not using any bot.
It is really very important topic to discuss.
Nice content.
Very well articulated.
Excellent job sir.

Thanks @talanhorne sir for sharing this post.

Upvoted + resteemed your post..

bots are very usefull to get attention for newbies as well as for others
as steemit doesn't have proper working promotional system ,we can use bots for a while

really you showing very valuable post.. Using bot services is sometimes also very profitable, many steemit users use bot services, they are small fish that never get the attention of the whales, so they take shortcuts from bot services.thanks to sharing for your great post..my dear friend. @talanhorne very well done..

Have you tried resteem bots as well? I wouldn't use upvote bots, but could imagine to find a broader audience with the help of a little resteem boost. But then again: These bots resteem so much content, mine would probably get lost in it - and not to speak of my own feed since you have to follow them if you use their service.. did you make any experiences?

I find Resteem bots a bit of a waste of time - I was using them for a while but it wanst bringing in any new people to my blog - they might resteem to 10k plus people but ALOT of them are inactive/bots etc. Alot of the resteem bots are just follow for follow accounts (take a look some of them follow 100k + Steemians!).

SO although they may bring a few more eyes they possibly arent the best and engaging viewers anyway - just my opinion!

Thanks for that. I had a hunch this might be the case. So, no resteem bots for me.

Well each to there own but they are something I wont be using anymore....

Good analysis @talanhorne in my opinion that bot are useful when the price of steem is low and inside the week it recover its price, a better way is just delegate power. Regards

@talanhorne,
I am trying vote bots, but didn't try Promotional bots so far! Okay now I will try them! Thanks for sharing this useful tip with us!

Cheers~

Never tried the promotion bots still but great for those who post creative and amazing content like you :) its puts you in front of the top content list :)

your posts need more audience. i'm trying to resteem & get more audience, but not giving good results. thank you for writing your experiences of other bots @talanhorne

@resteemia
reteemed & upvoted

I wouldn't say you haven't been giving me good results. My followers have been increasing long before I ever tried promotion bots. Who can say how many of those were due to your resteems?

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I use bots , you will earn more steem powers
my best bots : Appreciator , upme , postpromoter and buildawhale:)

  ·  7 years ago (edited)

To every bot there is a strategy. I’ve done some experiments as well and it is very important to use bots who upvote your post within 30 min. Smartmarket does that, but you have to know when it’s available. Smartmarket and Smartsteem are working together and that’s how I know it’s the right time to use them. There are some bots that are not profitable. Yes u just have to do your homework.

You're a good knowledge person about writing and it's very difficult.
Your job is excellent topic.
Thanks @talanhorne
Have a nice day

Good writing you just shared.Writing is very hard.
For your post propagation.
Upvote/Resteem
@talanhorne

Hello @talanhorne,

Extraordinary good article of using Promotion Bots. Incredible finding & writing.

~@mywhale

Great awareness blog post sir thanks a lot for sharing have a great day as your fan i always enjoy your blog sir.

By curation & bid votes & bid promotions, you share the best strategic game we all can do in Steemit. Nice lesson.

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So if you have any spare SBD you can send SBD to @tipU with memo: invest
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You can also automatically reinvest your SBD which is quite a unique feature for voting bots. You can find more info here

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Thank you so much for your support. I have just begun to experiment with various promotion, voting, and investment services here on Steemit, and I am glad to keep getting recommendations.

I want to do great things with this platform, and anything that boosts my profile is a great help.

Once again, thank you.

Glad I could help :)

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Have you tried the bidbots yet or just minnowbooster etc? I have been doing an experiment to find out if the bidbots are effective or not and it seems they arent as effective for minnows as I would have hoped:

https://steemit.com/steemit/@conradt/the-great-bid-bot-experiment-results-from-week-one

I think that if you have loads of SBD you can just boost your post to trending which will give much more attention to your post.

Alot of the times the bots arent that profitable and just boost everyones post so it looks like we are making more than we are, but just making the bot owners richer.... I think using them sparingly to promote certain content is the best way!

I have not tried any bidbots. And I am not sure I want to.

Paying for promotions services is one thing, buying votes is another. And while I can't promise I won't ever do it, I have only begun my experiments with bots, and I am taking things slowly, to get a good idea of which strategy is most effective for myself.

Based on your comments, it would seem that bidbots may not be a good fit for me.

Sounds like a good plan... Bidbots are essentially the same as minnowbooster -but there is potential to earn a higher ROI (or in my case have a lower ROI)

Yeah I am not to big on them but in some cases I need to for visibility (such as contests), but otherwise I just focus on writing good content.

I also find some people dont like bots and are actually less likely to upvote you if you are using bots all the time. I found without them its more likely your content will get noticed by services such as @curie aswell..

Its a tough situation because I can see the pros and cons of each side

@talanhorne sir...
Actualy I'm already used steem bots....but I think it is not profitable...some times it is very good...some times very bad...we always check steem bot tracker before send to bots our steem or sbd...
Wel explaination sir...

@talanhorne i always have been in confused state whether to use bot or not...coz most of the times i have done it i have been in loss i guess....yes there is increase in SP and reputation.....but due to lag on STEEMBOTTRACKER.COM my bids have gone wrong many of times....
And that sucks...

Promotions bots help me a lot in my earning and promotions of my post. Resteem bots are also profitable but some of them because some of them cost more then 1 sbd.

Keep using these bots so that people who don't see your post can see them.

i think bots are helpful for increasing your reputation as well as SP, but if you are determine to gain your SBD here you are wrong. we should take its positive part beyond the negative side.

No more words.
W
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And perfect work by @talanhorne sir.
Smart review...
Upvoted and Resteemed.
Cheers~

Fortunately, I have a goodly supply of SBDs to continue exploring different avenues regarding, with the expectations that I may build up myself as a Steemit identity.

If it's not too much trouble keep us refreshing about these bots as they will enable minnows to like us a great deal. This post was very instructive for me. Every one of the bots don't pay you back similarly, so after a few tests you can reveal to us which bot should we favor.

Happy that you gave it a shot. You require the bots for better presentation of your substance,
UPVOTE AND RESTEEM

I think upvote bots are not good in the long term in spite of the benefits for those that use them in the short term. They retard the growth and full potential of what Steem.

Maybe an option to filter out posts with paid votes would be good for people. If don't come to Steem for ads, I come here for outstanding content. With bid bots in place, sometimes the best content is difficult to find.

A very special experience
Steam $ is a very useful use of bot developing
I really use it
Thank you for the information, my friend

Bots are exceptionally usefull to get consideration for novices and additionally for others, as steemit doesn't have legitimate working limited time framework ,we can utilize bots for some time

The trending page is always full.with the posts permoted by these bid bots!
Once they hits the trending page, they automatically start getting manual votes from other whales and users.

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Very informative post. Thanks for sharing.

I think it helps to grow up reputation which is not actually effective much but sometimes bots provide better that is few times...I appreciate your experience.....thanks for sharing your experiences!

Very beautiful. steemit cryptocurrency promotion bots post to you for thank you very much, and post a lot like and like post vote and comments and post share, I like this post a total of all see and this post to everyone can vote

Thank you for the necessary information. I myself did not use bots, but I think I will do this after your report.

Very nice steem cryptocurrency promotion post I share and we post up vote and gave

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resteem

Lively that you gave it a shot. You require the bots for better presentation of your substance,

UPVOTE AND RESTEEM

Promotion bot helps to make your post to be seen on steemit, and using promotion bot also increases you post profitability @talanhorne

hey your idea is very good.................

you post quality content here
you deserve more visibility
bots will be profitable for you
you should use them more often

as steemit doesn't have proper working promotional system ,we can use bots for a while

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UPVOTE AND RESTEEM

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Actually I think the vot can be bought if needed.because it increases our score. I think many vote is good

#upvote and #resteem
This post @talanhorne

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Effective post....@talanhorne. thanks a lot for sharing with us.

Yeah you tell right,i agree with you @talanhorne,To every bot there is a strategy. I’ve done some experiments as well and it is very important to use bots who upvote your post within 30 min. Smartmarket does that, but you have to know when it’s available. Smartmarket and Smartsteem are working together and that’s how I know it’s the right time to use them. There are some bots that are not profitable. Yes you just have to do your homework.damn it

you are great writer dear

you share your experience, thanks a lot

Once they hits the trending page, they automatically start getting manual votes from other whales and users.

thanks for your kindness to share this type of post for steemian

Very helpful and valuable post you shared today. i appreciate about your
helpful article. thank You so much for sharing this. I will wait to see more valuable post from you.

Thanks for sharing this great information dear.
This post is really valuable for all steemit members.

its an informative post at all dear

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each bot there is a procedure. I've done a few tests too and it is vital to utilize bots who upvote your post inside 30 min. Smartmarket does that, yet you need to know when it's accessible. Smartmarket and Smartsteem are cooperating and that is the manner by which I know it's the perfect time to utilize them. There are a few bots that are not productive. Truly u simply need to get your work done.

every bot there is a method. I've completed a couple of tests as well and it is fundamental to use bots who upvote your post inside 30 min. Smartmarket does that, yet you have to know when it's available. Smartmarket and Smartsteem are collaborating and that is the way by which I know it's the ideal time to use them. There are a couple of bots that are not gainful. Genuinely u basically need to complete your work.

wonderful post, resteem

Hello sir. 😊
I am new on steemit.
I read your post and I must say you are a professional writer.
Your posts helps me a lot to understand the working of this platform.
I appreciate your great work sir.

Have a great day.

Thank you so much @talanhorne sir for sharing this post.

Bots are good when the rate is stable, it's good that you have succeeded. Thank you for the information.

Steembot tracker is good way to use any kind of bot it will helpful

Many good wishes for you and your crypto future.
I believe you will be one of most success steemian in this community.
carry on your great job.

i don't know why i can't trust this bots... it's one kind of taking risk. after investing you can't be sure that you can have much sbd in returns or not.

I know you are hard work person and your contents are also so effective and it help peoples a lot. I always support your good contents and you are my one of favorite steemian.

God Bless You @talanhorne

now a days bots are not profitable. If any new steem user take bot he have to lose more sbd. but your story was helpful, i have learned something from your informative article. I hope you will progress more in this community. Keep going @talanhorne

It's very good that you are in profit, I'll try the same as I earn. Immediately I'll put in. Thank you for the information.

Using bot services is sometimes also very profitable, many steemit users use bot services, they are small fish that never get the attention of the whales, so they take shortcuts from bot services.Luckily, I have a goodly supply of SBDs to keep experimenting with, with the hopes that I might establish myself as a Steemit personality.
Please keep us updating about these bots as they will help minnows like us a lot. This post was quite informative for me. All the bots don't pay you back equally, so after some experiments you can tell us which bot should we prefer.Well yes as because you can see what votes they can give you via minnowbooster.net and smartsteem.com(you can get whitelisted so that you can get additional facilities of upvotes))

Sometimes they are profitable weel most of the time but sometimes they are not.

Well they are profitable and uses in the case of RS to increase.
term. They retard the growth and full potential of what Steem.

Maybe an option to filter out posts with paid votes would be good for people. If don't come to Steem for ads, I come here for outstanding content. With bid bots in place, sometimes the best content is difficult to find.bots are very usefull to get attention for newbies as well as for others
as steemit doesn't have proper working promotional system ,we can use bots for a while

That is article is professional & Excellent writing . so great experience.
Thanks @talanhorne
100% like and resteem

This is professional writing experience and great work.
Upvote Resteem

This is very interesting article and this is a great steem post. thanks for sharing.

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steem is good oportunity for us ................

Great the post @talanhorne very imformative
Very good Analysis

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Thanks a lot for sharing sir i am your biggest fan following your blogs from quite some time.

ুvery important post for me

I am using the voting bots , not using yet Promotion Bot. I hope it has huge benefits.

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You are very experienced .... and your article is informative..it’s a very good analysis....about promotion bots ...thanks for sharing with us ...