Hi guys, it's time to sum up the recent updates to @tipU voting service from the investors perspective.
Allowing More Users To Use @tipU Voting Service
This change is pretty simple - the less daily usable voting power @tipU has, the less it spends. So if @tipU is running out of voting power, the allowed max upvote will be smaller so more (small) upvotes can be made. It's useful especially for the minnows so their 0.5 SBD payments are not rejected when @tipU is running out of VP.
Automated Upvote Multiplier For +10% ROI
So as I explain in this post previously the upvote multiplier was set manually - for example at 1.6 which meant 1 SBD gave 1.6 STU upvote. This value was based upon upvote demand/supply ratio, SBD price and other bid bots profitability.
It gave my good control over the upvotes profitability yet it was not optimal (human error, latency etc.) so I've implemented a simple algorithm that gives the vote buyer a +10% ROI from his payment. In other words if he pays 1 SBD, the combined value of post payout in SBD and STEEM POWER will be 1.1 SBD (or more if @tipU has a lot unspent voting power).
Compared to bid bots, where most of them have no guaranteed ROI (including negative one which means vote buyers loose money) this is a pretty good deal for vote buyers.
Instant Upvoting
The change described above allowed to calculate the ROI also for upvotes that were done before 30 minute mark - which meant that part of the @tipu curation reward goes to the vote buyer. So the newer the post at the time of upvoting, the more SBD profit it generates for investors - at the cost of STEEM payout. Which is good because of the reason described below :)
Curation Rewards Increase VS Power Down Speed
Because the amount of @tipU SP is still increasing, thanks to big delegations, so are the curation rewards in STEEM POWER. Yet, the speed of powering down is limited, as it takes 3 months (1 payment per week) to change STEEM POWER to liquid STEEM.
Because of this soon @tipU can be in situation, where the curation rewards generated trough the week are greater than the amount of powered down STEEM. The implementation of instant upvotes (described above) should help to lower the amount of generated curation rewards in favour of more SBD profit - which can be paid instantly without need to wait (to power it down).
Let's see how it works but if the curation rewards will continue to grow fast, I will probably change the STEEM payouts to be dependant on the amount of powered down STEEM each week, not the amount of STEEM POWER generated thanks to curation (as it can not be transferred to investors, it has to be powered down first). The good news is that each weak @tipU can power down more STEEM POWER so more STEEM can be obtained with each power down.
Overall this shouldn't affect profitability by much, as STEEM accounts to only 10% of total payout - the rest 90% is SBD which don't cause any problems :)
Profitability Check
The best summary of the recent changes ;)
@tipu i want to delegate 1000 sp
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@tipu upvote this post for 10 SBD #selfvoting :(
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Bro can you explain please why I got only SBD? Will not I get STEEM also as curation rewards?
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second that question; I am thinking of investing another 500 SP but when I type in status it say's 0 STEEM POWER back to me with a simple 500 SP.. does it take a week?
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Yes.
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Thats because curation rewards are paid with post payouts- after 7 days. So your delegation will start to earn STEEM after 1 week :)
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Thanks a lot for clarifying
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Hello! I made a test for instant vote profitability today. I made 2 posts. Each of them will lose like 1%, so a negative ROI on instant votes.
The price of sbd was 1.26$.
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I will do the math later on and we can both verify this :) can you tell me why do you think its -1%?
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Quick maths here: The first vote: 7.78 x 1.26 (price of sbd) = 9.8 $ (that's what I paid). I received an upvote of 9.725. 9.725 - 9.8 = - 0.075
The second vote: 1.574 x 1.26 = 1.98 (That's what I paid) and 1.952 (That's what I received). 1.952 - 1.98 = -0.028.
It's not 1%, but it's negative
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OK, here's the thing - 9.725 is not in US dollars. Those are STUs. They should be equal to SBD but because SBD is not woth 1 USD, it's more complicated.
So even though you see $ sign next to your post payout, this is not US Dollar. Basically it is a mix of SBD and STEEM POWER and sometimes liquid STEEM.
Anyway, 9.725 STUs are worth around 11.16 USD.
So $9.8 -> $11.16
About +14% profit.
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Sorry! You're right! I was confused with STU. Thanks very much for your fast response :)
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@tipu dear friend, i have sent you some steem to get upvotes but i didnt received upvotes. Can you please Check. Thx
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It was instantly send back, please check your wallet :)
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This is massive I must say
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@tipu help
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I have send you 6 steem for upvotes like 5 hours ago I was wondering when will I get upvoted
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It has been immediately send back with memo:
Please check your wallet.
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@tipu what is the max bid vote amount that i can send and how much will be a profit on that pls.
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Please note that @tipu is not a bidding bot so it is more like a payment :) there is no max value, @tipu will use as much as it can and send back the rest as a refund. The profit is at least +10% :)
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Thank u for your reply😊 keep useing @tipu service and investing also.
Just i am keep learning😊
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i flowing you
please flow me
SBD NEED PLEASE CONTACT BUY SELL
01826802343
HIGH RATE FOR YOUR SBD
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@tipu i want to delegate 0 sp
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please tell me how can i transfer 0.50 sbd to you for upvote to my post?
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Can someone explain how this works when you send STEEM and that goes into invested.
Like sending steem is just like a delegation, but I could withdraw my steem if I wanted to.
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Delegate 598.6 SP to @Tipu
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hello @tipu I'm interested in buying votes
exactly 18 Sbd but what about the return of money as it affects my ROI?
if I send 18 sbd but they return me 15 sbd
10% ROI of 18 sbd?
or 10% ROI os 3 sbd
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10% of the used payment so from 3 SBD in this example. But usually @tipu has more voting power to make higher upvotes.
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I just changed my delegation from 50SP to 200SP. No need to send me a link to do it. I did it already. Just thought you'd want to know.
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Yes, Ive noticed, thank you :)
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I want to delegate 0 SP to @tipu
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Thanks for the update.
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how to save post in favorites? =)
so useful info!
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You can do this on https://busy.org/ ;)
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First of all, thank you for the great service.
Instead of waiting for the 13-week power-down cycle to complete, why don't you restart once a week after every payment? In this way your weekly power-down value will go up every week (assuming the SP goes up).
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This is a very good advice and this is exactly what Im doing. But its still not enough :(
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I can't understand how this could be "tipuvoted" before. It's a new post.
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@deathcross/contango-as-a-gold-mine-and-why-should-bitcoinists-care
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Check comments - especially mine ;)
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Hi @tipu and @cardboard - silly question time, if I want to increase my delegation from 20 to 30 SP so I delegate 10 SP or 30 SP? Sorry, looks like a real dumb question now I have written it but hopefully you will know what I mean.
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30 :) and it's not a silly question!
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i want to delegate to @tipu
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I want to delegate 73 SP to @tipu
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Yesterday 1000 STEEM POWER delegated or invested gave payout of:
0.543 SBD + 0.046 STEEM (0.73 USD), APR: 18.58% .
Delegation link: steemconnect 1000 SP delegation to @tipu.
Please note the profit depends on STEEM price. The higher the STEEM price, the more SBD profit is being generated.Downvoting a post can decrease pending rewards and make it less visible. Common reasons:
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This post received 12.38 SBD upvote from @tipU funded by @cardboard | @tipu now has a chance to win free @steembasicincome share :) | Voting service guide | For investors | Claiming Byteball Airdrop Guide.
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Hi @tipU / @cardboard,
I only noticed this post after I sent my bid request through (your bio just says "ROI +10% to +20%").
I sent through 0.5 SBD and received a 0.53 upvote. After curation this will yield a payout of just 0.3975 STU (i.e. a -20% ROI). Is this correct as TipU will be working from now on, or was this an error?
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Hi @robtheranger. Please note that:
So after curation you should receive around 0,473 STU. All this info was sent to you at the moment of upvote as memo with a transfer of 0.110 SBD. Please check your wallet :)
Edit: in USD terms you paid $0.45 and received upvote which will yield you $0.51 -> +14% ROI
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I missed the wallet message with the explanation. I see it now... thanks for the explanation.
P.S. I'm not entirely sure of the math behind curation, but from what I understand is that there are several factors that come in to play (when the vote was made, how many (number and value) previous upvotes, as well as the final post value etc.)... i.e. far too many variables to accurately determine what that 57% would ultimately be... but I get where you're going with it, and appreciate the explanation.
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@djimirji up!
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voy a utilizar tu servicio ultimamente he tenido mas bien perdidas gracias por compartir
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hola excelente publicacion amigo
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